Re: I AM DUMBFOUNDED!

2010-07-17 Thread Stuart Jansen
On Fri, 2010-07-16 at 20:34 +, Henry Hertz Hobbit wrote: I am considering unsubscribing. I also didn't attend your meeting and probably won't. I think your PLUG is like a lot of other LUGs and is going to disappear. Wow, it's been years since we've had one of these. It's so endearing

Re: I AM DUMBFOUNDED!

2010-07-17 Thread Stuart Jansen
On Fri, 2010-07-16 at 15:23 -0600, Daniel C. wrote: (I also look forward to Stuart's response to the original email.) No way I can top that. -- Stuart Jansen sjan...@buscaluz.org /* PLUG: http://plug.org, #utah on irc.freenode.net Unsubscribe: http://plug.org/mailman/options/plug Don't fear

Re: I AM DUMBFOUNDED!

2010-07-17 Thread Aaron Toponce
On 07/17/2010 03:09 PM, Stuart Jansen wrote: Wow, it's been years since we've had one of these. ... and the reason I subscribed. I had heard about all the drama on PLUG (how to spell perl (is it PERL, Perl, etc), vim vs emacs, and Stuart's witty commentary). After subscribing, I was let down. I

Re: I AM DUMBFOUNDED!

2010-07-17 Thread Grant Shipley
On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 7:55 PM, Grant Shipley gship...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 4:34 PM, Henry Hertz Hobbit hhhob...@securemecca.com wrote: I am considering unsubscribing. I also didn't attend your meeting and probably won't. I think your PLUG is like a lot of other LUGs

I AM DUMBFOUNDED!

2010-07-16 Thread Henry Hertz Hobbit
Darl McBride who single-handedly did more to try to trash the ability of anybody to use Linux and dislike Richard Stallman whose work makes it possible for you to have Linux I am more than baffled. I am DUMBFOUNDED! I needed people with Linux expertise to help leverage people off of Windows onto

Re: I AM DUMBFOUNDED!

2010-07-16 Thread Brad Midgley
Henry Your complaints about the mailing list are a reasonable basis to leave, filter, or mute the list, but not necessarily to stop going to meetings. The meetings are generally solid and are a good format for learning something useful. Brad /* PLUG: http://plug.org, #utah on irc.freenode.net

Re: I AM DUMBFOUNDED!

2010-07-16 Thread Jonathan Duncan
On 16 Jul 2010, at 14:46, Brad Midgley wrote: Henry Your complaints about the mailing list are a reasonable basis to leave, filter, or mute the list, but not necessarily to stop going to meetings. The meetings are generally solid and are a good format for learning something useful.

Re: I AM DUMBFOUNDED!

2010-07-16 Thread Alan Young
On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 15:15, Jonathan Duncan jonat...@bluesunhosting.com wrote: Keep in mind also, that if you do not like a certain conversation thread, you do not need to follow it.  :)  Better threads will come.  They always do. VIm is better than emacs! -- Alan /* PLUG:

Re: I AM DUMBFOUNDED!

2010-07-16 Thread Thad Van Ry
On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 2:34 PM, Henry Hertz Hobbit hhhob...@securemecca.com wrote: snip of entire rant that I read way too much of Wow! I didn't read anything in previous threads that led me to believe that PLUG as an organization espouses the things that you claim. All I read were various

Re: I AM DUMBFOUNDED!

2010-07-16 Thread Daniel C.
On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 2:34 PM, Henry Hertz Hobbit hhhob...@securemecca.com wrote: I am considering unsubscribing. Talk is for the weak - strong men take action. Don't let this become another in your long line of unsubstantiated threats, Mr. Hertz. Show us you mean business! Leave this list.

Re: I AM DUMBFOUNDED!

2010-07-16 Thread Joshua Fenio
On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 3:23 PM, Daniel C. dcrooks...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 2:34 PM, Henry Hertz Hobbit hhhob...@securemecca.com wrote: I am considering unsubscribing. It's for our own good, really. How can we grow beyond our current, juvenile state without the

Re: I AM DUMBFOUNDED!

2010-07-16 Thread Daniel C.
On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 3:29 PM, Joshua Fenio std...@gmail.com wrote: Joining the Army has, incredibly, improved your prose, Dan. It has given me a ridiculous amount of spare time, which I've devoted mostly to reading. /* PLUG: http://plug.org, #utah on irc.freenode.net Unsubscribe:

Re: I AM DUMBFOUNDED!

2010-07-16 Thread Levi Pearson
baffled. I am DUMBFOUNDED! What makes you think anyone here loves Darl McBride? At most, I imagine some people here respect him as a person who has made some poor decisions regarding lawsuits. I imagine a lot of people dislike him almost as much as you seem to. Why does it offend you so much

Re: I AM DUMBFOUNDED!

2010-07-16 Thread Shane Hathaway
On 07/16/2010 02:34 PM, Henry Hertz Hobbit wrote: I needed people with Linux expertise to help leverage people off of Windows onto Linux for security reasons. Specifically, I see the following two areas as ripe for the picking: 1. People at home. Many have very little technical knowledge

Re: I AM DUMBFOUNDED!

2010-07-16 Thread Aaron Toponce
On 7/16/2010 4:59 PM, Levi Pearson wrote: What makes you think anyone here loves Darl McBride? At most, I imagine some people here respect him as a person who has made some poor decisions regarding lawsuits. I imagine a lot of people dislike him almost as much as you seem to. I don't have

Re: I AM DUMBFOUNDED!

2010-07-16 Thread Grant Shipley
On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 4:34 PM, Henry Hertz Hobbit hhhob...@securemecca.com wrote: I am considering unsubscribing. I also didn't attend your meeting and probably won't. I think your PLUG is like a lot of other LUGs and is going to disappear. It's very easy to do, just visit: