Re: Self hosted WordPress too slow

2014-01-15 Thread Robert Merrill
On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 9:58 AM, Adam Stevenson adamsteven...@gmail.comwrote: I would recommend xcache http://xcache.lighttpd.net/ for the op code cache, and probably WP-Cache for the word press cache plugin Thanks! I'll look. /* PLUG: http://plug.org, #utah on irc.freenode.net Unsubscribe:

Self hosted WordPress too slow

2014-01-14 Thread Robert Merrill
Pluggers, I've been hosting my own WordPress sites for seven years or so now, and the reality is that my sites are just running too slow. I'm using a virtual shared server on media Temple. Admittedly I'm paying $20 a month, so I don't expect best in class performance, but I have to do

Re: Self hosted WordPress too slow

2014-01-14 Thread S. Dale Morrey
I think you might have good luck with https://www.digitalocean.com/pricing All the stuff you're talking about only matters if you are expecting a large traffic footprint. On the scale of a personal blog you're better off beefing up CPU RAM and looking at server level stuff. This site has been

Re: Self hosted WordPress too slow

2014-01-14 Thread Merrill Oveson
If you know php html, then I'd recode using those. Wordpress is a hacker's paradise. When I worked tech support at BlueHost, every evening someone would call with a hacked CMS (Content Management System) either Wordpress, Drupal or Joomla. Wordpress by the way was the worse. I'm not surprised

Re: Self hosted WordPress too slow

2014-01-14 Thread David Landry
Before you jump ship, you might want to look into caching plugins. Wordpress doesn't cache much (if anything) out of the box. You'll probably get a good speed boost by setting up something like WP-Cache. --- David Landry On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 10:31 AM, Merrill Oveson move...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: Self hosted WordPress too slow

2014-01-14 Thread Steve Alligood
also check your plugins. Some of them start to get bogged down as the history of your site gets longer. I remember dealing with one a few years ago (don't remember the name) that would parse the entire log history for every hit. Just Terrible. And Wordpress itself is not a bad thing, as

Re: Self hosted WordPress too slow

2014-01-14 Thread Adam Stevenson
Wordpress is pretty slow for a number of reasons, but some easy things you can do to speed it up is to install a php op-code cache, and a word press cache plugin. I would recommend xcache http://xcache.lighttpd.net/ for the op code cache, and probably WP-Cache for the word press cache plugin.

Re: Self hosted WordPress too slow

2014-01-14 Thread Steve Alligood
ok, for extreme speed[1] and still have the benefits of Wordpress, you can move the main index page and create a cron every five minutes to wget the real wordpress page and save it as a static index page. Comments, posts, etc, will take up to five minutes to show up, but an incredible number

Re: Self hosted WordPress too slow

2014-01-14 Thread Grant Shipley
As others have said, take a look at your plugins and think about fronting it with a CDN (http://www.cloudflare.com/ for example). shameless plug: If you decide to move, consider OpenShift.  This is the project I work on at Red Hat.  We have pretty good wordpress hosting and the best part, its

Re: Self hosted WordPress too slow

2014-01-14 Thread Daniel
I would look into the reason for the slowness. Is the memory fully used? Is there a rogue process running? What is the root cause? If this is not identified it could happen somewhere else. -Daniel On Jan 14, 2014 10:05 AM, Steve Alligood st...@betterlinux.com wrote: ok, for extreme speed[1] and

Re: Self hosted WordPress too slow

2014-01-14 Thread Kyle Waters
On 01/14/2014 10:51 AM, Daniel wrote: I would look into the reason for the slowness. Is the memory fully used? Is there a rogue process running? What is the root cause? If this is not identified it could happen somewhere else. I agree. I'd be interested in seeing some dstat output. Kyle

Re: Self hosted WordPress too slow

2014-01-14 Thread Jason Wright
I looked into wordpress speed optimization a little while ago. What I found is that all the PHP and MySQL code creates for a large memory footprint and a lot of setup and teardown for each connection! If you use 10 or 20 concurrent connections to Wordpress on a smaller box, the memory will be

Re: Self hosted WordPress too slow

2014-01-14 Thread Lonnie Olson
On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 12:07 PM, Jason Wright jasonwright...@gmail.com wrote: Don't get me wrong, I love wordpress, but the open source app wasn't built for scaling. Nope, this is not true. wordpress.com uses wordpress. It's not a separate app from the open source version. Start using a

Re: Self hosted WordPress too slow

2014-01-14 Thread John Shaver
My experience working at bluehost was similar, however I don't blame Wordpress (necessarily). Most of those hacked Wordpress sites had not updated Wordpress in a very long time and were several versions behind. Others usually had Wordpress plugins that hadn't been updated in ages. Also, the

Re: Self hosted WordPress too slow

2014-01-14 Thread Jason Wright
On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 12:36 PM, Lonnie Olson li...@kittypee.com wrote: On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 12:07 PM, Jason Wright jasonwright...@gmail.com wrote: Don't get me wrong, I love wordpress, but the open source app wasn't built for scaling. Nope, this is not true. wordpress.com uses

Re: Self hosted WordPress too slow

2014-01-14 Thread keith smith
When you are on a cheap vhost you are sharing the server with upwards of 800 other vhosts. I worked for two of the largest hosting companies in the world.  That was 10 years ago and some things have changed.  One company did things right.  They separated HTTP, Data, and Mail onto separate