no wedding band??

2015-08-29 Thread Lyle
Subject: Wedding ring is in for repair again this year... Just passing this on with no comment, interesting observation though The Wedding ring is in for repair again this year. Since when does a plain wedding band need repairs, along with your watch, for a whole month? In a press

Re: no wedding band??

2015-08-29 Thread Phil Waclawski
I really don't see how this is appropriate for a linux discussion group. Phil Waclawski On Sat, Aug 29, 2015 at 5:54 AM, Lyle l.tut...@cox.net wrote: Subject: Wedding ring is in for repair again this year... Just passing this on with no comment, interesting observation though The

Re: no wedding band??

2015-08-29 Thread Michael Havens
Lyle, before you blindly repost something controversial do a little research. http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/ramadan.asp On Sat, Aug 29, 2015 at 9:16 AM, Phil Waclawski phil.waclaw...@mesacc.edu wrote: I really don't see how this is appropriate for a linux discussion group. Phil

Re: no wedding band??

2015-08-29 Thread Eric Oyen
in some ways, this is already happening. Take for example my DVD collection. Given the terms of the DMCA, I am not allowed to play them with vlc (an open source media player) because it breaks (cracks) the CSS on those dvd's in order to play the content. THis also means I can't make backups of

Re: no wedding band??

2015-08-29 Thread Jerry Snitselaar
Politics as it relates to technology, linux in particular, might be okay for this list, but it should be kept to the policies and not the personalities involved. The original post that started this thread though has no place on this list. ---

Re: no wedding band??

2015-08-29 Thread Phil Waclawski
This has NOTHING to do with the purpose of the group. Talking about government issues of copyright, privacy and so on as it relates to Open Source software, fine. But this is ridiculous and annoying, and is the type of thing that can drive some of the newer members away. Please stop. Phil W On

Re: no wedding band??

2015-08-29 Thread Keith Smith
Just because snopes says it is so does not mean it is. You have to look at the evidence. There is plenty of evidence to support the notion that BO is a muslim masquerading as a Christian. On 2015-08-29 07:43, Michael Havens wrote: That goes for everyone else too. I include myself because

Re: no wedding band??

2015-08-29 Thread Keith Smith
I understand some do not like bringing politics into this list. However it is all relevant. I'm a LAMP developer. I have deep concerns that the Federal Government will at some point start to regulate Open Source / Free Software. I've known Lyle for sometime and his heart is in the right

Re: no wedding band??

2015-08-29 Thread Nathan England
Snopes has been found time and time again to be deceitful and supportive of liberal politics, which in no way means they are lying, but at the very least means we ought to look elsewhere and consider all the evidence. Another thing. How come no one wants to talk about the Islamic Taqiyya

Re: no wedding band??

2015-08-29 Thread Eric Oyen
oh yeah. Like I said, it starts with next to nothing. Its like the frog in the pot scenario. Throw a frog in boiling water and he immediately hops out. Place a frog in cool water and slowly bring up the heat, he is toast before he realizes that he is in trouble. Same thing here. All it will

Re: no wedding band??

2015-08-29 Thread Michael Havens
That goes for everyone else too. I include myself because I repost it and then did the research. On Sat, Aug 29, 2015 at 10:42 AM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: Lyle, before you blindly repost something controversial do a little research.

Re: no wedding band??

2015-08-29 Thread Nathan England
Great points Eric. Consider also what will happen when the government gets burned by Ashley Maddison, or the next one. No doubt they will find out that the hackers were running linux. The server probably was too. That open source cancer. (politicians will decry:) We need to protect the

Re: no wedding band??

2015-08-29 Thread Bob Elzer
This is old news from 2010. If we are going to start yelling the sky is falling, then lets do some good. Bill Gates promised me that for every response to this thread he will donate $100 to eliminating cancer. Lets bankrupt the bastard!!! :-p On Aug 29, 2015 11:07 AM, Eric Oyen

Re: no wedding band??

2015-08-29 Thread Keith Smith
I take a holistic approach to these things because I think they are all related. I had a preacher (Christian) friend tell me about 7 years ago that politics does not belong in the church. Interestingly enough politics is all that is in the church today - external politics. Nothing happens

Re: no wedding band??

2015-08-29 Thread Keith Smith
Good point Bob. 5 years and we have done nothing to fix these issues. On 2015-08-29 11:16, Bob Elzer wrote: This is old news from 2010. If we are going to start yelling the sky is falling, then lets do some good. Bill Gates promised me that for every response to this thread he will

civil liberties and Linux (and a donation or 2)

2015-08-29 Thread Eric Oyen
well, if you want to donate to a good cause, I am looking for help. I am blind and a budding athlete (yeah, I know, a bit late in the game, but a 53 year old cancer survivor who is blind made gold at the last paralympic games this year). btw, this is tax deductible.

Open SOurce and where its used for the blind person

2015-08-29 Thread Eric Oyen
ok, the previous thread I am involved in got me to thinking where linux (and linux ported apps) get used. Well for starters, lets try my macbook. I have several command line utilities that are in the macports repository. These were originally coded to work in linux and were patched to do the

Monitor

2015-08-29 Thread Michael Havens
i got a monitor. It is not wide screen. Linux would automagically set the proper resolution. I have windows7 on another drive in this computer. I boot into it because I was wondering why GRUB says it is on sda1 and sda2 and I was wondering what sda2 would look like. So I boot into it and all

HOWTO get a Cisco AnyConnect VPN working on Linux

2015-08-29 Thread Matt Graham
http://crow202.org/ciscovpn/ Wrote this guide to getting a Cisco AnyConnect VPN working in Linux up for people at work. Then I thought If I make this a bit more general, other people will be able to use it too. The required steps are all out there in other places on the net, but the

Re: HOWTO get a Cisco AnyConnect VPN working on Linux

2015-08-29 Thread Eric Oyen
yet another reason why open source needs to be guarded as much as our liberties. What amazes me is that since 1991 (and the introduction of the linux kernel) that linux has grown into the powerhouse that it has. More than 40% of the internet infrastructure is powered by linux. Neat huh?

Re: HOWTO get a Cisco AnyConnect VPN working on Linux

2015-08-29 Thread Jerry Snitselaar
On Sat, Aug 29, 2015 at 12:37 PM, Matt Graham mhgra...@crow202.org wrote: http://crow202.org/ciscovpn/ Wrote this guide to getting a Cisco AnyConnect VPN working in Linux up for people at work. Then I thought If I make this a bit more general, other people will be able to use it too. The

Re: HOWTO get a Cisco AnyConnect VPN working on Linux

2015-08-29 Thread Michael Butash
Same here - I use openconnect inside of network manager for a number of clients, myself included. Your problem is the company enforces the CSD trojan, or the host check that wants to do posture analysis of the system at a local level outside java. Even network manager has enable csd trojan