LOL, I did everything but answer your question, which was "what is the
problem with using the existing Internet:
1) In dozens of ways, including the "UN connection", or government
snooping or corporate snooping or other ways I haven't begun to
think of, the Internet and/or its associated
You (Keith) mentioned the UN/DNS connection, and the non-political
portion of the thread flowed from possible solutions if the UN thing
ever came to pass. Eventually it got to mesh, or peer to peer, or
whatever you call it, and one person said he wished the solution's
communication points could
What is the problem with using the existing Internet?
No doubt that's fascinating. From a brief read it seems to fit the bill
quite nicely from a technological viewpoint.
Some potential challenges remain:
A lot of people would be willing to buy a $100 repeater for the good of
the community,
On Mon, 29 Aug 2016 17:00:36 -0700
Eric Cope wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 29, 2016 at 3:26 PM, Steve Litt
> wrote:
>
> > On Mon, 29 Aug 2016 21:53:09 + (GMT)
> > stevenss...@cox.net wrote:
> >
> > > * If I'm going to dream, figure a wireless
On Mon, 29 Aug 2016 21:53:09 + (GMT)
stevenss...@cox.net wrote:
> * If I'm going to dream, figure a wireless networking standard that
> can operate at say a mile's range, even something that drops to
> dialup speeds when it's unlicensed and thus you have lots of people
> using it.
Obviously
I'll toss some ideas out. Not saying any are silver bullets but they're
possibilities (all of which depend on getting enough like minded people
and the willingness to coordinate, but then find a solution that
doesn't):
* If you just want an alternative space to kick around in and not a
Have you ever read the book Cyberstorm by Matthew Mather? They do exactly
this. Excellent book by the way!
On Monday, August 29, 2016 12:26:04 PM MST subscriptions wrote:
> Here is some hope!
> The solution is a grass-roots solution.
>
> To counter central technology, we will use dispersed
How can we circumvent the current system and use the current
infrastructure?
On 2016-08-29 10:00, Eric Oyen wrote:
ok, I see some issues here.
first off, I am a conservative. I don't hide it but, then, I don't
trumpet it either. As far as I am concerned, politics should have very
little to
ok, I see some issues here.
first off, I am a conservative. I don't hide it but, then, I don't trumpet it
either. As far as I am concerned, politics should have very little to do with
technology or how it gets implemented. Unfortunately, politics has injected
itself into our very lives in the
Amazing how clear every thing becomes when you take a deep breath!... and
burry your head in the sand.
On Monday, August 29, 2016 1:43:22 AM MST stevenss...@cox.net wrote:
> My suggestion?
>
> Taking a deep breath, pouring the Koolaid down the drain instead of drinking
> it, and repeating to
oh yeah, there are plenty of us hams about and some of us are on a local mesh
network.
now, all I need to do is find a DD-wrt capable router with removable twin
antennas, make a beam or 2 and put it on air.
anyone got a suggestion on the best model to use?
I might also look at using my linux
On Mon, 29 Aug 2016 07:01:41 -0700
Keith Smith wrote:
> David,
>
> I had no intention of making this a political discussion.
No, of course not. Your suggestion that the U.N. is subject to greater
control of "authoritarian regimes" isn't an anti U.N. dog whistle
Here is some hope!
The solution is a grass-roots solution.
To counter central technology, we will use dispersed and independent
technology. If and when it becomes necessary or expedient, a community
WiFi network is entirely possible. Most people have routers which can
sustain a power input of
As far as I know, the Internet was created by Americans with tax payer
dollars. The Internet belongs to the taxpayers. If other countries do
not like that they do not have to play. The Internet should stay the
property of the USA.
I think we should think about allowing private networks.
David,
I had no intention of making this a political discussion. That will do
none of us any good. It will lead to a long multi-person rant with
little discussion of the subject matter.
My concern is what might happen. We will not know until it happens.
There is a lot riding on this.
My suggestion?
Taking a deep breath, pouring the Koolaid down the drain instead of drinking
it, and repeating to yourself, "I should really stop jumping on every
conspiracy bandwagon I see."
Seriously, I have little doubt that if we had a republican president and a
democratic majority in
meh … what do coders know.
If coders ran things, there would be two food groups: pizza and energy drinks.
And nobody would get paid to write code because it would be illegal to charge
for software or to write it. After all, information wants to be free.
-David Schwartz
-David "The Tool Wiz"
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/mar/14/icann-internet-control-domain-names-iana
http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-37114313
And for those who don't trust liberals:
http://www.hoover.org/research/tricky-issue-severing-us-control-over-icann
Basically the US had to turn it over, or
8 years ago, when Obama was elected the buzz HERE was how it was wonderful,
he'll bring change.
8 years ago, MY reply was: "You people are going to get exactly what you deserve. The only problem (I) have is that (I) will get
what YOU deserve as well."
On 08/28/2016 09:06 PM, David Schwartz
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