Re: services

2008-01-30 Thread Michael Havens
this is why I ask so many questions! On Wednesday 30 January 2008 12:36 am, Kristian Erik Hermansen wrote: > On 1/29/08, Technomage-hawke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I use a command line tool in debian called sysv-rc-conf. its a nvurses > > front end that works nicely for this kind of stuff > >

wireless router

2008-01-30 Thread Michael Havens
how cool! I called linkksys and they told me I needed to download some stuff. I did that and the laptop came up. I was happy! I went to bed and in the morning and I becam overjoyed... it detected the linux box!! YIPE --- PL

Re: services

2008-01-30 Thread Technomage-hawke
hehehehe you guys should try gentoo sometime. it makes debian look dead easy. On Wednesday 30 January 2008 06:20, Michael Havens wrote: > this is why I ask so many questions! > > On Wednesday 30 January 2008 12:36 am, Kristian Erik Hermansen wrote: > > On 1/29/08, Technomage-hawke <[EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: swap space

2008-01-30 Thread eculbert
IIRC floppies run at 150Kbs! Hard drives now days run at a MINIMUM of 33 mb/s, most 66 to over 100 mbs. Divide 33,000,000 by 150,000 and you get 220 times faster for the 33mb/s hard drive faster than a floppy!! Plus the other peoples comments still apply..too small, and undependable. Now days, 33m

Re: who is alex morton

2008-01-30 Thread Tony Wasson
On Jan 29, 2008 8:17 PM, Kristian Erik Hermansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Jan 29, 2008 6:53 PM, Richard Daggett > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Found this article about Alex Morton. He created a mouse in 1992, but not > > much on that either. > > > > http://www.robelle.com/ftp/newsletter/1

Re: services

2008-01-30 Thread Kristian Erik Hermansen
On Jan 30, 2008 8:55 AM, Technomage-hawke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > hehehehe > you guys should try gentoo sometime. it makes debian look dead easy. Yeah, Gentoo is great, and I still use it sometimes when I have a free weekend to compile everything :-P The following weekend I can actually use

Re: who is alex morton

2008-01-30 Thread Josh Coffman
On Jan 30, 2008 11:02 AM, Tony Wasson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Jan 29, 2008 8:17 PM, Kristian Erik Hermansen > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Jan 29, 2008 6:53 PM, Richard Daggett > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Found this article about Alex Morton. He created a mouse in 1992, but n

Re: services

2008-01-30 Thread Technomage-hawke
yeah, I tried it in vmware. works ok, but compiling under athlon64 sux. tried to install kde and got a lot of b0rked dependencies On Wednesday 30 January 2008 11:13, Kristian Erik Hermansen wrote: > On Jan 30, 2008 8:55 AM, Technomage-hawke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > hehehehe > > you guys sho

Re: who is alex morton

2008-01-30 Thread Kristian Erik Hermansen
On Jan 30, 2008 10:02 AM, Tony Wasson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The article is listed under the fiction archive here: > http://www.litvision.org/archive.html My dreams of meeting all those characters have been squashed :-( -- Kristian Erik Hermansen "Know something about everything and everyth

Re: who is alex morton

2008-01-30 Thread Kristian Erik Hermansen
On Jan 29, 2008 2:28 PM, Josh Coffman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Not sure if anyone else has seen this or if I'm just ignorant: > http://www.litvision.org/morton.html > > It's a little long, and leave me wondering what Unix software Alex > Morton wrote. Anyone know? Confirmed fictional: http://w

Re: services

2008-01-30 Thread stu
I haven't jumped into the Gentoo pool yet, but I'd like to give it a try sometime. I do like the way I can net-install a base Debian system then pick and choose whatever else I want. In fact, I have an old PII 300 laptop running my own dedicated version of Debian Etch hidden in my desk at work f

Re: services

2008-01-30 Thread Matt Graham
From: stu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > On Wednesday 30 January 2008 11:55 am, Technomage-hawke wrote: >> you guys should try gentoo sometime. it makes debian look dead easy. The config file management in Gentoo is pretty nice. The annoying thing is setting up the USE flags properly. Even with ufed, it

Gentoo for Business?

2008-01-30 Thread Joshua Zeidner
I'm sure Gentoo is loads of fun if you're a hobbiest of some kind, but I doubt it will gain any serious traction in the corporate realm. So if your goal is marketable skills, Gentoo is clearly not the the way to go. Configurability can sometimes be a minus, as it adds to the number of variables

Re: Gentoo for Business?

2008-01-30 Thread Kristian Erik Hermansen
On Jan 30, 2008 1:21 PM, Joshua Zeidner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm sure Gentoo is loads of fun if you're a hobbiest of some kind, > but I doubt it will gain any serious traction in the corporate realm. > So if your goal is marketable skills, Gentoo is clearly not the the > way to go. Confi

Re: Gentoo for Business?

2008-01-30 Thread David
- "Joshua Zeidner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm sure Gentoo is loads of fun if you're a hobbiest of some kind, > but I doubt it will gain any serious traction in the corporate realm. > So if your goal is marketable skills, Gentoo is clearly not the the > way to go. Configurability can so

Re: services

2008-01-30 Thread stu
> > The thing to do with Gentoo is to read the Gentoo Handbook (how to install > Gentoo) first. Print out a copy (if you have a printer) or have another > machine available to read the Handbook on while you're installing. It > takes ... 8 to 9 hours to "emerge kde" on a 2200 MHz Athlon with 1G,

Re: Gentoo for Business?

2008-01-30 Thread Jared Anderson
On 1/30/08, David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > - "Joshua Zeidner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I'm sure Gentoo is loads of fun if you're a hobbiest of some kind, > > but I doubt it will gain any serious traction in the corporate realm. > > So if your goal is marketable skills, Gentoo is

Re: Gentoo for Business?

2008-01-30 Thread Joshua Zeidner
On 1/30/08, David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > - "Joshua Zeidner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I'm sure Gentoo is loads of fun if you're a hobbiest of some kind, > > but I doubt it will gain any serious traction in the corporate realm. > > So if your goal is marketable skills, Gentoo is c

Re: Gentoo for Business?

2008-01-30 Thread Kristian Erik Hermansen
On Jan 30, 2008 1:38 PM, David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Speaking only of the 'marketable skills' aspect, I disagree. When we are > interviewing > potential new linux people, I prefer one who has gentoo experience. > Specifically > because of what you need to go through to get it installed

Re: Gentoo for Business?

2008-01-30 Thread Joshua Zeidner
On 1/30/08, Kristian Erik Hermansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Jan 30, 2008 1:21 PM, Joshua Zeidner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'm sure Gentoo is loads of fun if you're a hobbiest of some kind, > > but I doubt it will gain any serious traction in the corporate realm. > > So if your goal

Re: Gentoo for Business?

2008-01-30 Thread Kristian Erik Hermansen
On Jan 30, 2008 2:14 PM, Joshua Zeidner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > center. I find myself having to hobble my own skills and training in > order to please the various parochial department managers and other > kinds of 'self-proclaimed geniouses' when working in Phx. For > instance encountering s

Re: Gentoo for Business?

2008-01-30 Thread Joshua Zeidner
On 1/30/08, Kristian Erik Hermansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Jan 30, 2008 2:14 PM, Joshua Zeidner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > center. I find myself having to hobble my own skills and training in > > order to please the various parochial department managers and other > > kinds of 'self-pr

Re: services

2008-01-30 Thread Kristian Erik Hermansen
On Jan 30, 2008 1:47 PM, stu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > IIRC, the main differences between Gentoo and Debian is that Debian uses > binary files from the Debian repositories, while Gentoo is essentially > compiled directly from source code, which is why it takes so long. With > Gentoo, OTOH, you c

Re: Gentoo for Business?

2008-01-30 Thread Joshua Zeidner
On 1/30/08, Kristian Erik Hermansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Jan 30, 2008 1:38 PM, David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Speaking only of the 'marketable skills' aspect, I disagree. When we are > > interviewing > > potential new linux people, I prefer one who has gentoo experience. > >

Re: Apple's time has come?

2008-01-30 Thread Matt Nesteruk
This article is weak! milw0rm is for kiddies. A computer is only as secure as the user operating it. -Matt On 1/28/08, Craig White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > target for exploit says Sophos > > > http://www.sophos.com/pressoffice/news/articles/2008/01/security-report.html > > Craig > >

Re: Apple's time has come?

2008-01-30 Thread Kristian Erik Hermansen
On Jan 30, 2008 7:52 PM, Matt Nesteruk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This article is weak! > milw0rm is for kiddies. Yups...feed them :-) > A computer is only as secure as the user operating it. That's not really true. Computers can be insecure without any operator... -- Kristian Erik Hermansen

vpn

2008-01-30 Thread Michael Havens
Is therte an easy way to get the linux box and the windows box to see each other to share stuff with each other? --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: htt

Re: Apple's time has come?

2008-01-30 Thread Darrin Chandler
On Wed, Jan 30, 2008 at 08:04:05PM -0800, Kristian Erik Hermansen wrote: > > A computer is only as secure as the user operating it. > > That's not really true. Computers can be insecure without any operator... No, they are fine packed into their boxes. If you turn one on and put it on the inter

Re: vpn

2008-01-30 Thread Kristian Erik Hermansen
On Jan 30, 2008 8:18 PM, Michael Havens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is therte an easy way to get the linux box and the windows box to see each > other to share stuff with each other? samba? -- Kristian Erik Hermansen "Know something about everything and everything about something." -

Re: vpn

2008-01-30 Thread Darrin Chandler
On Thu, Jan 31, 2008 at 04:18:07AM +, Michael Havens wrote: > Is therte an easy way to get the linux box and the windows box to see each > other to share stuff with each other? Ummm... the subject says vpn, but you don't have much info in your message about vpn. If you put Samba on your

Re: Apple's time has come?

2008-01-30 Thread Kristian Erik Hermansen
On Jan 30, 2008 8:19 PM, Darrin Chandler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > No, they are fine packed into their boxes. > > If you turn one on and put it on the internet you are still the operator > even if you leave it. lol... -- Kristian Erik Hermansen "Know something about everything and everything a

Re: vpn

2008-01-30 Thread Mike Garfias
If you're doing that, I recommend looking at OpenVPN. Compared to something like FreeS/WAN its a freaking cake walk to setup. It still takes time + effort + reading, but its not THAT bad. And it works on windows, mac, and linux. On Jan 30, 2008, at 9:22 PM, Darrin Chandler wrote: > On Th

Re: vpn

2008-01-30 Thread Jerry Davis
On Wednesday 30 January 2008 21:41, Mike Garfias wrote: > If you're doing that, I recommend looking at OpenVPN. Compared to > something like FreeS/WAN its a freaking cake walk to setup. It still > takes time + effort + reading, but its not THAT bad. And it works on > windows, mac, and linux. at

Re: vpn

2008-01-30 Thread Richard Wilson
I have set up Samba before, but find I can do most of the "sharing" I need between Windows and Linux using Putty (on Windows) and SSH. Putty is a free SSH implementation for Windows and can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/ HTH, Richard Wilson -