We are screwed.

It is not surprising but Obama won:( -- :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss

Re: We are screwed.

Personal choices for personal people. DEFINITELY not the topic for here. Thanks, Dan Lund "There is only one good, namely knowledge, and only one evil, namely ignorance." --Socrates On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 1:22 AM, mike havens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It is not surprising but Obama won:( >

Re: blow me away, Alex Costellanos on CNN tonight

Things gained: No attack ads No the sky is falling No dusting I bet its all on youyube or oddley probably torrent. On 11/5/08, David Huerta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 11:14 PM, Craig White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> at 11:11 pm AZ time (probably can find it in a transc

Re: We are screwed.

mike havens wrote: > It is not surprising but Obama won:( > > -- > :-)~MIKE~(-: Damn right, it's not surprising. After 8 years of pissing on the Constitution, destroying our international image and lining the pockets of themselves and their top bribers, oh, sorry, "campaign contributors" to

Re: blow me away, Alex Costellanos on CNN tonight

Here you go: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-4afdMalVA On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 5:34 AM, James Finstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > Things gained: > No attack ads > No the sky is falling > No dusting > > I bet its all on youyube or oddley probably torrent. > > On 11/5/08, David Huerta <[EMAIL PR

Re: Processor Temperature

Ok let it sit overnight and pcu temp still reads 40 C. Anyone have any idea what might cause this problem? On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 12:09 AM, Dazed_75 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 12:03 AM, Mike Hoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Ok got ubuntu installed on this new computer and

Re: open source is prevelant

Here's a suggestion for a Christmas gift for MS Office-using friends and relatives: Beginining OpenOffice 3.0 -- http://apress.com/book/view/1430215909 :) Michelle On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 8:14 PM, Craig White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 2008-11-04 at 15:51 -0700, Dan Lund wrote: > > Sah

Python in system administration?

Is anyone here using Python in system administration? Better yet, is anyone also writing about it? Cheers, Michelle --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http

Re: open source is prevelant

So when your trial expires everything turns to 72pt comic sans ? On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 8:00 AM, Michelle Lowman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > Here's a suggestion for a Christmas gift for MS Office-using friends and > relatives: Beginining OpenOffice 3.0 -- > http://apress.com/book/view/14302159

Re: open source is prevelant

Wing Dings. With the blink tag. On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 8:33 AM, James Finstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > So when your trial expires everything turns to 72pt comic sans ? > > > > > On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 8:00 AM, Michelle Lowman <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > wrote: > >> Here's a suggestion for a Chri

Re: blow me away, Alex Costellanos on CNN tonight

Oh my I predict a new set of commercials Hi I am a pc I like to think of myself as a cathedral come worship Hi I am barack obama and I am like Linux come play with me and make me? Okay where is the bug tracker for the open source president! -- James Finstrom On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 a

Re: We are screwed.

On Wed, 2008-11-05 at 08:18 -0600, Thomas Cameron wrote: > mike havens wrote: > > It is not surprising but Obama won:( > > > > -- > > :-)~MIKE~(-: > > Damn right, it's not surprising. After 8 years of pissing on the > Constitution, destroying our international image and lining the pockets > o

white space frequencies freed

Lost in the political discussions this morning... FCC Green-Lights White Space Access http://www.crn.com/networking/212000630 I think this has the potential of being very big Craig --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.a

Re: We are screwed.

I'm just annoyed that gmail's mute feature doesn't seem to work when my email isn't in the To or CC fields of the header. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings:

Re: Need help converting video formats

vlc has an easy interface in which you can use to convert these files. In this example... http://www.engadget.com/2005/10/18/how-to-get-tv-shows-off-of-your-tivo-and-onto-your-ipod-with/ it shows you how to do it. Of course your targeting the web not an Ipod. But you get the idea...

Re: Processor Temperature

40C is 104F. Nice temp for a cpu. Should warm up somewhat from cold start. IF possible sit the computer either in the refrig for about 30 minutes then hookup and see what the temp is. NOT THE FREEZER, but the refrig part. Also, vary the temp in the room if possible...should be able to do that ea

Re: white space frequencies freed

Oh neat! Has it occurred that the real new world order and global unification efforts may be cleverly disguised as a thing called google? On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 8:46 AM, Craig White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Lost in the political discussions this morning... > > FCC Green-Lights White Space

Re: white space frequencies freed

not at all. fnord. -jmz On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 8:52 AM, James Finstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > Oh neat! Has it occurred that the real new world order and global > unification efforts may be cleverly disguised as a thing called google? > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 8:46 AM, Craig

Re: blow me away, Alex Costellanos on CNN tonight

Thanks for linking the youtube vid for it. -Mike Hoy On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 7:55 AM, Michelle Lowman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Here you go: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-4afdMalVA > > On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 5:34 AM, James Finstrom > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> Things gained: >> No atta

Re: Python in system administration?

From: "Michelle Lowman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Is anyone here using Python in system administration? Better yet, > is anyone also writing about it? The Gentoo folks have it so that their entire package management system is built in Python. That's fairly heavy system administration , right? The ma

Re: Python in system administration?

On Nov 5, 2008, at 10:31 AM, Matt Graham wrote: From: "Michelle Lowman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Is anyone here using Python in system administration? Better yet, is anyone also writing about it? The Gentoo folks have it so that their entire package management system is built in Python. That's f

Re: Python in system administration?

Oh I just wanted to throw out there that the reason why Gentoo uses python as the language for it's package management system is that the creator only knew python at the time :-) Alot of controversy but in the end it works as you said. Thanks, Dan Lund "There is only one good, namely knowledge, a

Re: Python in system administration?

Python for Unix and Linux System Administration, 1st Edition by Noah Gift; Jeremy Jones Publisher: O'Reilly Media, Inc. Pub Date: September 2, 2008 Print ISBN-13: 978-0-596-51582-9 Pages: 656 http://safari.oreilly.com/9780596515829 On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 10:31 AM, Matt Graham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Python in system administration?

Well as much as I consider python to be a 5th leg on a cow, perl is used for system administration and that's not exactly /bin/sh guaranteed either. Thanks, Dan Lund "There is only one good, namely knowledge, and only one evil, namely ignorance." --Socrates On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 10:31 AM, Mat

Re: We are screwed.

I'm of the opinion all things are relevant to a Linux list.  If unemployment goes to 11% and people on this list suffer because of it is that not relevant? What if in an an attempt to save money in a down turn economy, cooperate America turns to Open Source to cut lost or at least reduce licens

Re: Python in system administration?

there is also this project: http://pyshell.sourceforge.net/ -jmz On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 10:47 AM, Alex Dean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Nov 5, 2008, at 10:31 AM, Matt Graham wrote: > > From: "Michelle Lowman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >>> Is anyone here using Python in system administrati

Re: We are screwed.

A president with a socialist view is much better?  He wants to tax your business to help those who do not want to help themselves. Keith Smith --- On Wed, 11/5/08, Craig White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Craig White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: We are screwe

Re: Python in system administration?

On Nov 5, 2008, at 10:45 AM, Dan Lund wrote: Well as much as I consider python to be a 5th leg on a cow Extra beef. What's not to like? ;) PGP.sig Description: This is a digitally signed message part --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-disc

Re: We are screwed.

Self interest? Whatever happened to, "Ask not what your country can do for you; but for what you can do for your country," and to the STATESMAN mindset rathedr than to the politician mindset. On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 10:45 AM, Craig White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > and I note the irony of

Re: We are screwed.

A couple of days ago, here in florida, a woman was thankful because she sees a time on the near horizon when, 'I won't have to worry about putting food on my table or putting gas in my car.' She wants socialism! She, and like minded people, didn't pay attention durring the USSRs regin, nor do the u

Re: We are screwed.

Good quote! --- On Wed, 11/5/08, mike havens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: mike havens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: We are screwed. To: "Main PLUG discussion list" Date: Wednesday, November 5, 2008, 11:08 AM Self interest? Whatever happened to, "Ask not what your country can do

Re: We are screwed.

some interesting pics of the USSR: http://www.englishrussia.com/?p=1960 -jmz On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 11:15 AM, mike havens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > A couple of days ago, here in florida, a woman was thankful because she > sees a time on the near horizon when, 'I won't have to worry abo

Re: open source is prevelant

very funny! On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 10:36 AM, Michelle Lowman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > Wing Dings. With the blink tag. > > > On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 8:33 AM, James Finstrom < > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> So when your trial expires everything turns to 72pt comic sans ? >> >> >> >> ---

Re: We are screwed.

Secure voting? yeah linux can do that... http://br-linux.org/english/linux-voting-machines/ On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 11:25 AM, Joshua Zeidner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > some interesting pics of the USSR: > > http://www.englishrussia.com/?p=1960 > > -jmz > > > On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 11:1

Re: We are screwed.

On Nov 5, 2008, at 11:15 AM, mike havens wrote: A couple of days ago, here in florida, a woman was thankful because she sees a time on the near horizon when, 'I won't have to worry about putting food on my table or putting gas in my car.' She wants socialism! She, and like minded people, di

Re: We are screwed.

Alex, be nice to the Boomers. They had this 'communism' stuff drilled into their heads as small children. -jmz On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 11:35 AM, Alex Dean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Nov 5, 2008, at 11:15 AM, mike havens wrote: > > A couple of days ago, here in florida, a woman was th

Re: We are screwed.

On Wed, 2008-11-05 at 09:57 -0800, keith smith wrote: > > A president with a socialist view is much better? He wants to tax > your business to help those who do not want to help themselves. Socialist? Seems to me that bailing out Wall Street companies and banks was as socialist as it gets a

Re: We are screwed.

I find the irony in quoting a Democrat when trying to defend Republicans to be quite amusing. :P mike havens wrote: > Self interest? Whatever happened to, "Ask not what your country can do > for you; but for what you can do for your country," and to the > STATESMAN mindset rathedr than to the pol

Re: blow me away, Alex Costellanos on CNN tonight

On Wed, 2008-11-05 at 08:39 -0700, James Finstrom wrote: > Oh my I predict a new set of commercials > > > Hi I am a pc I like to think of myself as a cathedral come worship > > Hi I am barack obama and I am like Linux come play with me and make > me? > > Okay where is the bug tracker f

Re: We are screwed.

Alex Dean wrote: > On Nov 5, 2008, at 11:15 AM, mike havens wrote: > >> A couple of days ago, here in florida, a woman was thankful because >> she sees a time on the near horizon when, 'I won't have to worry >> about putting food on my table or putting gas in my car.' She wants >> socialism! She, a

Re: We are screwed.

On Nov 5, 2008, at 11:42 AM, Craig White wrote: The graduated income tax scale has been US law for a century now and the commentary that includes the socialist label upon any particular faction for adjusting the indexes of the graduated scale merely proves the point that some people can

Re: We are screwed.

keith smith wrote: > > A president with a socialist view is much better? He wants to tax your > business to help those who do not want to help themselves. BWAHAHAH! Are you serious? I mean, *really* - this is hogwash and you should know better. One misquote != socialist agenda, and anyo

Re: We are screwed.

I find it amusing that anyone can attempt to defend the fascist state that Obama will try to lead us out of! Maybe, since the Republicans have shown their true nature, it is time to at least give the Democrats a chance. Josh Andler wrote: > I find the irony in quoting a Democrat when trying to

Willing to pay for some help.

Hello, Is anyone on this list available for some work. We have a small project that requires us to compile a kernel for 2.2.x and our development system is using Fedora 9 (2.6.x). We need someone to aid in compiling some video capture drivers into the older kernel and running on an embedded syst

Re: We are screwed.

>> "facist" here we go... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwins_law lmao --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo

Re: We are screwed.

On Wednesday 05 November 2008 11:42:24 Joshua Zeidner wrote: > Alex, > >be nice to the Boomers. They had this 'communism' stuff drilled into > their heads as small children. > > -jmz > Funny, cuz I'm not a 'boomer' as you say. Yet I see the writing on the wall. nathan ---

Re: We are screwed.

mute.. mute mute dammit, gmail. ok fine.. On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 11:42 AM, Josh Andler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I find the irony in quoting a Democrat when trying to defend Republicans > to be quite amusing. :P > If your measure were based on the values represented by the quote and not the p

Re: We are screwed.

This may be a bad time to mention that your dad could probably beat up my dad and if you would just quote me a price we can make that happen. I think no one should be surprised that Obama won heck they announced it weeks ago. The most dangerous thing about America is our ideas and I think our found

Re: We are screwed.

Unfortunately we are doomed to relive history because one generation out no one remembers. Keith Smith --- On Wed, 11/5/08, Joshua Zeidner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Joshua Zeidner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: We are screwed. To: "Main PLUG discussion list"

Re: We are screwed.

On Wed, 2008-11-05 at 11:42 -0700, Joshua Zeidner wrote: > > Alex, > >be nice to the Boomers. They had this 'communism' stuff drilled > into their heads as small children. I'm a boomer and I don't see things this way at all. This isn't about communism, socialism at all and I find your

Re: We are screwed.

Josh Coffman wrote: > > On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 11:42 AM, Josh Andler <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > wrote: > > I find the irony in quoting a Democrat when trying to defend > Republicans > to be quite amusing. :P > > > If your measure were based on the values represente

Re: Python in system administration?

Thanks, Ben. Actually, I'm very aware of that book. I'm interested in competing with it. :) I'm editor for one of O'Reilly's competitors, so if you or anyone else here at PLUG know of anyone who may be interested in writing a similar title, or any Linux title, please let me know. Cheers, Michelle

Re: We are screwed.

Interesting!  You voted for someone with no record.  Who is reportedly not even legally able to run for president.  Did you know there is a lawsuit to determine this fact? He had his records sealed?  Why?  I am also am at odds with Bush for the same thing.  Bush hid his military service recor

Re: Python in system administration?

That's "an editor"; obviously, I don't edit my own work. :) On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 12:55 PM, Michelle Lowman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > Thanks, Ben. Actually, I'm very aware of that book. I'm interested in > competing with it. :) I'm editor for one of O'Reilly's competitors, so if > you or anyo

Re: We are screwed.

Someone needs to watch something other than Fox and listen to someone other than Sean and Rush! The facts are out there, keith - if you choose to look keith smith wrote: > > Interesting! You voted for someone with no record. Who is reportedly > not even legally able to run for president. D

Re: We are screwed.

I have no TV.  I do not know Sean and do not listen to Rush.  I do not listen to talk radio either. All my questions come from the Internet's many sources. Keith Smith --- On Wed, 11/5/08, farli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: farli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re

Re: We are screwed.

On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 12:54 PM, Josh Andler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Ahhh, but you see the point of that was that the argument I was > commenting on was drudging through the US vs THEM territory that the 2 > party system seems to bring out in people. If someone wants want to > claim that th

Re: We are screwed.

"Whatever our differences, we are fellow Americans, and believe me when I say no association has ever meant more to me than that. It is natural to feel some disappointment, but tomorrow we must move beyond it and ... get our country moving again. I urge all Americans who supported me to join me in

Re: We are screwed.

On Wednesday 05 November 2008 12:18:18 Josh Coffman wrote: > mute.. mute mute dammit, gmail. ok fine.. > > On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 11:42 AM, Josh Andler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I find the irony in quoting a Democrat when trying to defend Republicans > > to be quite amusing. :P > > > > If

Re: We are screwed.

A Drudgie! Believe whatever you choose based on what little you see. keith smith wrote: > > I have no TV. I do not know Sean and do not listen to Rush. I do not > listen to talk radio either. > > All my questions come from the Internet's many sources. > > > > Keith

Re: We are screwed.

ditto. I have no television. I despise Sean and Rush because they are just as elitist and just as extreme but in the opposite direction as any of the air america people. I don't care for any of them. NPR tends to be okay, but a little more left than I care for. I balance it with tons of intern

Re: We are screwed.

Nobody was forced to take part in a 2-party system. Don't argue that a 3rd party candidate is a waste of vote. Face it, your vote is infinitesimally small, in fact 1 in a million. The idea of voting for lesser of two evils has delivered a president with a 30% approval rating and a Congress with a 1

Re: We are screwed.

On Wednesday 05 November 2008 13:24:30 you wrote: > Nobody was forced to take part in a 2-party system. Don't argue that a 3rd > party candidate is a waste of vote. Face it, your vote is infinitesimally > small, in fact 1 in a million. The idea of voting for lesser of two evils > has delivered a pr

Re: We are screwed.

Just the shear need to explain why it's valid is enough to make you question why it's being talked about. Thanks, Dan Lund "There is only one good, namely knowledge, and only one evil, namely ignorance." --Socrates On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 10:53 AM, keith smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'm

Re: We are screwed.

Maybe it is time that we start working for constitutional options to the two party system! they are out there! Nathan wrote: > On Wednesday 05 November 2008 13:24:30 you wrote: >> Nobody was forced to take part in a 2-party system. Don't argue that a 3rd >> party candidate is a waste of vote. Fa

Re: We are screwed.

HA! From what I read on the internet, there is: - doubt about the moon landing - there are tacmars (tactical markers) on our street signs - linux users are only a bunch of kids who live in their parents basement - the earth is flat - the earth is hollow - lizard people from another dimension cont

Re: We are screwed.

I think it is lizard people from THIS dimension control everything. Keith Smith --- On Wed, 11/5/08, David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: We are screwed. To: "Main PLUG discussion list" Date: Wednesday, November 5, 2008, 1:38

Re: Python in system administration?

lol I guess it is something extra to throw under ruby's rail ride. Thanks, Dan Lund "There is only one good, namely knowledge, and only one evil, namely ignorance." --Socrates On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 11:02 AM, Alex Dean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Nov 5, 2008, at 10:45 AM, Dan Lund wrote:

Re: We are screwed.

If you believe in the fairness doctrine, then you have no idea what Paul represented. On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 1:31 PM, Nathan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wednesday 05 November 2008 13:24:30 you wrote: > > Nobody was forced to take part in a 2-party system. Don't argue that a > 3rd > > party ca

Re: We are screwed.

I live in my basement with lizard people from another dimension, in our down time we use linux to guide ordinance towards tactical markers on street signs. After we perfect our methods we will join forces we will journey to the edge of the earth On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 1:38 PM, David <[EMAIL PROT

Re: We are screwed.

Kind of a catch-22, no? it's a blue collar conspiracy, the plumbers are taking over. Thanks, Dan Lund "There is only one good, namely knowledge, and only one evil, namely ignorance." --Socrates On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 1:44 PM, Eric Cope <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If you believe in the fairnes

Re: We are screwed.

On Wed, 2008-11-05 at 13:31 -0700, Nathan wrote: > On Wednesday 05 November 2008 13:24:30 you wrote: > > Nobody was forced to take part in a 2-party system. Don't argue that a 3rd > > party candidate is a waste of vote. Face it, your vote is infinitesimally > > small, in fact 1 in a million. The id

Re: We are screwed.

On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 1:44 PM, James Finstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > I live in my basement with lizard people from another dimension, in our > down time we use linux to guide ordinance towards tactical markers on street > signs. After we perfect our methods we will join forces we will jou

Re: We are screwed.

On Wednesday 05 November 2008 11:50:39 Thomas Cameron wrote: > keith smith wrote: > > A president with a socialist view is much better? He wants to tax your > > business to help those who do not want to help themselves. > > BWAHAHAH! Are you serious? I mean, *really* - this is hogwash and >

Re: We are screwed.

Craig, I am interested in your interpretation of a libertarian platform and Paul's platform. Eric On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 1:53 PM, Craig White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 2008-11-05 at 13:31 -0700, Nathan wrote: > > On Wednesday 05 November 2008 13:24:30 you wrote: > > > Nobody was forced

Re: We are screwed.

On Wed, 2008-11-05 at 13:57 -0700, Jason Hayes wrote: > For those who missed the repeated updates on that particular promise from > Obama. It started at $300K/yr. Then it moved to $250K, then $200K, then $150K > (Biden), then $120K (Gov Richardson NM). > > During the primaries, Obama referred t

Re: We are screwed.

keith smith wrote: > > Interesting! You voted for someone with no record. Who is reportedly > not even legally able to run for president. Did you know there is a > lawsuit to determine this fact? Are you seriously this stupid? Do you honestly think that if he were not eligible it would tak

Re: We are screwed.

You almost had me until this statement. 'Cause everyone knows, if it's written on the Internet, it *must* be true! Open your eyes. Listen to your hero's concession speech again. The one where he said that Obama is an honorable man and we should *all* work together. Quit spreading these lies

Re: We are screwed.

Look at his social agenda Craig On Wed, 2008-11-05 at 14:01 -0700, Eric Cope wrote: > Craig, > I am interested in your interpretation of a libertarian platform and > Paul's platform. > Eric > > On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 1:53 PM, Craig White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > On Wed, 2008-11-05

Re: We are screwed.

On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 1:35 PM, Alex Dean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > We should be one country, and not just when your guy wins or my guy wins. > If that's the approach you're committed to, and you won't so much as listen > to a different idea because of who it comes from, then I guess we won'

Re: We are screwed.

monkeys On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 2:11 PM, mike havens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 1:35 PM, Alex Dean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> >> We should be one country, and not just when your guy wins or my guy wins. >> If that's the approach you're committed to, and you won't

Re: We are screwed.

monkeys On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 2:10 PM, Craig White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Look at his social agenda > > Craig > > On Wed, 2008-11-05 at 14:01 -0700, Eric Cope wrote: > > Craig, > > I am interested in your interpretation of a libertarian platform and > > Paul's platform. > > Eric > > > > On

Re: We are screwed.

monkeys On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 2:06 PM, Craig White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 2008-11-05 at 13:57 -0700, Jason Hayes wrote: > > > For those who missed the repeated updates on that particular promise from > > Obama. It started at $300K/yr. Then it moved to $250K, then $200K, then > $150

Re: We are screwed.

monkeys On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 2:01 PM, Eric Cope <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Craig, > I am interested in your interpretation of a libertarian platform and Paul's > platform. > Eric > > > On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 1:53 PM, Craig White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > >> On Wed, 2008-11-05 at 13:31 -0700

Re: We are screwed.

monkeys On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 1:57 PM, Jason Hayes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wednesday 05 November 2008 11:50:39 Thomas Cameron wrote: > > keith smith wrote: > > > A president with a socialist view is much better? He wants to tax your > > > business to help those who do not want to help t

Re: We are screwed.

monkeys On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 1:56 PM, Josh Coffman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 1:44 PM, James Finstrom < > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I live in my basement with lizard people from another dimension, in our >> down time we use linux to guide ordinance towards tactical

Re: We are screwed.

monkeys On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 1:53 PM, Craig White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 2008-11-05 at 13:31 -0700, Nathan wrote: > > On Wednesday 05 November 2008 13:24:30 you wrote: > > > Nobody was forced to take part in a 2-party system. Don't argue that a > 3rd > > > party candidate is a was

Re: We are screwed.

monkeys On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 1:46 PM, Dan Lund <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > Kind of a catch-22, no? > > it's a blue collar conspiracy, the plumbers are taking over. > Thanks, > Dan Lund > > "There is only one good, namely knowledge, and only one evil, namely > ignorance." > --Socrates > > > > On

Re: We are screwed.

On Wednesday 05 November 2008 13:11:49 farli wrote: > Someone needs to watch something other than Fox and listen to someone > other than Sean and Rush! > This is beneath you and beneath the intelligence of this list. Not a productive addition to the conversation at all. We keep hearing from Obam

Re: We are screwed.

monkeys On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 1:44 PM, James Finstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > I live in my basement with lizard people from another dimension, in our > down time we use linux to guide ordinance towards tactical markers on street > signs. After we perfect our methods we will join forces we

Re: We are screwed.

monkeys On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 1:44 PM, Eric Cope <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If you believe in the fairness doctrine, then you have no idea what Paul > represented. > > > On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 1:31 PM, Nathan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> On Wednesday 05 November 2008 13:24:30 you wrote: >>

Re: We are screwed.

monkeys On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 1:43 PM, keith smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I think it is lizard people from THIS dimension control everything. > > > > Keith Smith > > > > > --- On *Wed, 11/5/08, David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* wrote: > > Fr

Re: We are screwed.

monkeys On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 1:35 PM, farli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Maybe it is time that we start working for constitutional options to the > two party system! they are out there! > > Nathan wrote: > > On Wednesday 05 November 2008 13:24:30 you wrote: > >> Nobody was forced to take part

Re: We are screwed.

monkeys On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 1:35 PM, Dan Lund <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > Just the shear need to explain why it's valid is enough to make you > question why it's being talked about. > > Thanks, > Dan Lund > > "There is only one good, namely knowledge, and only one evil, namely > ignorance." >

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monkeys On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 1:31 PM, Nathan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wednesday 05 November 2008 13:24:30 you wrote: > > Nobody was forced to take part in a 2-party system. Don't argue that a > 3rd > > party candidate is a waste of vote. Face it, your vote is infinitesimally > > small, i

Re: We are screwed.

monkeys On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 1:24 PM, Eric Cope <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Nobody was forced to take part in a 2-party system. Don't argue that a 3rd > party candidate is a waste of vote. Face it, your vote is infinitesimally > small, in fact 1 in a million. The idea of voting for lesser of t

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monkeys On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 1:22 PM, Nathan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ditto. > > I have no television. > I despise Sean and Rush because they are just as elitist and just as > extreme but in the opposite direction as any of the air america people. I > don't care for any of them. > > NPR ten

Re: We are screwed.

The best quote I've seen in this entire discussion was this: "It's unfortunate, but this is the mess we are stuck with." I was very, very tempted to just write in Joe Arpaio's name. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.

ot: sorry, had to do it

sorry, I had to do it. Gmail really needs to fix there mute feature. I suppose I could have made a filter to kill the thread, or even unsubscribed. -j --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, o

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monkeys On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 2:07 PM, Thomas Cameron < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > keith smith wrote: > > > > Interesting! You voted for someone with no record. Who is reportedly > > not even legally able to run for president. Did you know there is a > > lawsuit to determine this fact? > > A

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