Re: Slightly OT: Got a weird one regarding EMail logs and ISPs.

2009-06-22 Thread JD Austin
I'm assuming this is small claims court and it's already past mediation. I was on the other side of such a law suit - I was suing someone for work performed that they didn't pay that they authorized. I showed up in court with 300+ pages of emails, invoices, etc and he showed up with about 10 page

Re: west side during the summer

2009-06-22 Thread der.hans
Am 22. Jun, 2009 schwätzte Ryan Rix so: moin moin, Is this the location we've all agreed upon? http only sucks, but at least it's internet. Well, it hasn't gotten any complaints and Mike can reserve the room for us, so it appears to be the place. It is a couple of miles north and a few miles

Re: Slightly OT: Got a weird one regarding EMail logs and ISPs.

2009-06-22 Thread Craig White
On Mon, 2009-06-22 at 22:32 -0700, Jim March wrote: > Not exactly Linux but then not exactly "not" either. > > Got a friend who got involved in a business deal that went south, now > he's suing. The guy he's suing sounds like a real winner and is > claiming there's a couple grand worth of expense

Slightly OT: Got a weird one regarding EMail logs and ISPs.

2009-06-22 Thread Jim March
Not exactly Linux but then not exactly "not" either. Got a friend who got involved in a business deal that went south, now he's suing. The guy he's suing sounds like a real winner and is claiming there's a couple grand worth of expenses my friend never agreed to. Except the guy we'll call "the b

Re: Just complete apt-get /update/upgrade and my system is bonked!

2009-06-22 Thread Mark Phillips
Lisa, Now that picture says it all.thanks! Mark On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 7:13 PM, Lisa Kachold wrote: > Okay - here you go: > > http://www.obnosis.com/motivatebytruth/courage.jpg > > On 6/22/09, Joseph Sinclair wrote: > > The missing file errors are leftovers. Something in your system is s

Re: west side during the summer

2009-06-22 Thread Ryan Rix
On Mon 22 June 2009 9:16:52 pm James Mcphee wrote: > if that's the case, you can use something like corkscrew to fake https > traffic > And there's always mibbit+irssi proxy. That's how I'll connect if it comes down to it ;) (can't change the ssh port, not my machine) Is this the location we've

Re: west side during the summer

2009-06-22 Thread James Mcphee
if that's the case, you can use something like corkscrew to fake https traffic On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 8:18 PM, Craig White wrote: > On Mon, 2009-06-22 at 20:08 -0700, James Mcphee wrote: > > If they block ssh, and you want to get to your home machine for irc, > > etc. Setup ssh on an alternate

Re: Just complete apt-get /update/upgrade and my system is bonked!

2009-06-22 Thread Lisa Kachold
Thanks for the compliments! Catch my column on LinuxGazette.com and come to the next Puppet HackFest (August)! http://www.obnosis.com/motivatebytruth/consequences2.jpeg On 6/22/09, Stephen wrote: > Lisa this is an amuseing but odd path for you, usually you have reams > of information that can u

Re: west side during the summer

2009-06-22 Thread Craig White
On Mon, 2009-06-22 at 20:08 -0700, James Mcphee wrote: > If they block ssh, and you want to get to your home machine for irc, > etc. Setup ssh on an alternate port. > more likely they are running a proxy server with filtering...that seems to be what Libraries are doing these days. Not like

Re: Just complete apt-get /update/upgrade and my system is bonked!

2009-06-22 Thread Craig White
Actually, the /usr/local/lib/libxml2.so.2.6.30 would not likely to have been installed by apt/dpkg but likely by some tarball installation of some package instead. The problem with tarball installations like this is that the shell typically uses files in /usr/local before /usr and in this case, it

Re: west side during the summer

2009-06-22 Thread James Mcphee
If you don't have a webserver going, set it to 443. They'd have a hard time blocking that. On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 8:11 PM, Eric Shubert wrote: > What if they block everything except for what they allow? ;) > > James Mcphee wrote: > > If they block ssh, and you want to get to your home machine

Re: west side during the summer

2009-06-22 Thread Eric Shubert
What if they block everything except for what they allow? ;) James Mcphee wrote: > If they block ssh, and you want to get to your home machine for irc, > etc. Setup ssh on an alternate port. > > On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 4:13 PM, David Huerta > wrote: > > On Mon,

Re: west side during the summer

2009-06-22 Thread James Mcphee
If they block ssh, and you want to get to your home machine for irc, etc. Setup ssh on an alternate port. On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 4:13 PM, David Huerta wrote: > On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 4:02 PM, Mike Schwartz > wrote: > > OK, > > I guess I forgot, that it asks me to enter the "library card number

Re: Just complete apt-get /update/upgrade and my system is bonked!

2009-06-22 Thread Eric Shubert
LOL I noticed the change as well. Stephen wrote: > Lisa this is an amuseing but odd path for you, usually you have reams > of information that can usually take a day or three to digest (not > complaining it has given me allot of new knowledge) but its almost > like you been given a does of digital

Re: CD access Ubuntu 8.04 / vmware player / Visduh

2009-06-22 Thread Eric Shubert
Eric Shubert wrote: > Eric Shubert wrote: >> Eric Shubert wrote: >>> I have a Ubuntu 8.04 host, running a Visduh guest using vmware player >>> 2.5.1. It's working pretty well, but I don't really use Visduh much. >>> >>> I'm trying to use the Windoze media player to rip a CD, accessing the >>> CDr

Re: CD access Ubuntu 8.04 / vmware player / Visduh

2009-06-22 Thread Eric Shubert
Yeah, thanks. I'm simply trying to rip an audio CD with Windoze media player. It's baffling though why data CDs work and audio CDs don't. Stephen wrote: > well you can sidestep and rip to ISO or some other application and > then feed that data to vista > > On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 6:30 PM, Eric S

Re: Just complete apt-get /update/upgrade and my system is bonked!

2009-06-22 Thread Stephen
Lisa this is an amuseing but odd path for you, usually you have reams of information that can usually take a day or three to digest (not complaining it has given me allot of new knowledge) but its almost like you been given a does of digital laughing gas. On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 7:13 PM, Lisa Kach

Re: CD access Ubuntu 8.04 / vmware player / Visduh

2009-06-22 Thread Stephen
well you can sidestep and rip to ISO or some other application and then feed that data to vista On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 6:30 PM, Eric Shubert wrote: > Eric Shubert wrote: >> Eric Shubert wrote: >>> I have a Ubuntu 8.04 host, running a Visduh guest using vmware player >>> 2.5.1. It's working pretty

Re: Just complete apt-get /update/upgrade and my system is bonked!

2009-06-22 Thread Lisa Kachold
Okay - here you go: http://www.obnosis.com/motivatebytruth/courage.jpg On 6/22/09, Joseph Sinclair wrote: > The missing file errors are leftovers. Something in your system is still > referencing the old OO.o version 2.4, and the new 3.0 version changed the > filenames. You can safely ignore th

Re: Just complete apt-get /update/upgrade and my system is bonked!

2009-06-22 Thread Joseph Sinclair
The missing file errors are leftovers. Something in your system is still referencing the old OO.o version 2.4, and the new 3.0 version changed the filenames. You can safely ignore that (or hunt down what's referencing the old files and fix it, if you're adventurous). libxml2 is used by a lot o

Re: Heat

2009-06-22 Thread Lyle Tuttle
I'm in Daktoa Dunes, SD today, and it is 98 deg with 98% humidityand I wish I was back in AZ! lyle At 03:10 PM 6/22/2009, you wrote: But its a dry heat *ducks* On 6/22/09, mike havens wrote: > Floridians are such wimps! They complain about 100 degrees! > > -- > :-)~MIKE~(-: > -- Sent

Re: CD access Ubuntu 8.04 / vmware player / Visduh

2009-06-22 Thread Eric Shubert
Eric Shubert wrote: > Eric Shubert wrote: >> I have a Ubuntu 8.04 host, running a Visduh guest using vmware player >> 2.5.1. It's working pretty well, but I don't really use Visduh much. >> >> I'm trying to use the Windoze media player to rip a CD, accessing the >> CDrom directly. The Vista VM is

Re: west side during the summer

2009-06-22 Thread David Huerta
On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 4:02 PM, Mike Schwartz wrote: > OK, > I guess I forgot, that it asks me to enter the "library card number" (and a > password) > for my GLENDALE  "library card" -- which "some" persons (like, some > "non-Glendale" residents) do not have. > Well, I guess ONE of you, can have m

Re: west side during the summer

2009-06-22 Thread Ryan Rix
On Mon 22 June 2009 3:55:32 pm Bob Elzer wrote: > All visitors may use the library 's network free of charge and no > special encryption settings are required; however, you must abide by the > library's Internet Use Policy to connect. Well, last time I was in there, connecting and opening a browse

Re: west side during the summer

2009-06-22 Thread Mike Schwartz
OK, I guess I forgot, that it asks me to enter the "library card number" (and a password) for my *GLENDALE "library card"* -- which *"some" persons* (like, some "non-Glendale" residents)* do not have.* Well, I guess ONE of you, can have me log on with MY "library card number" (and password), -- a

Re: Heat

2009-06-22 Thread mike havens
Heck, they are complaining about 98 (the high today) on the radio. Dry or wet... heat is heat. I love the heat here. When the wind blows it is actually cool rather than the pizza oven. On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 6:10 PM, Stephen wrote: > But its a dry heat > > *ducks* > > > On 6/22/09, mike haven

Re: librarian's [libertine?] use of the word "FREE" (was: Re: west side during the summer)

2009-06-22 Thread Stephen
interesting. On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 3:17 PM, Mike Schwartz wrote: > This is so cool: >> ((...and that is free as in, "we do not have to pay"; >>    although maybe it is also "both" kinds of free -- in some sense)) > The librarian's ".sig" includes this Stallman-esque maxim: > (well, after you ski

RE: west side during the summer

2009-06-22 Thread Bob Elzer
OK now I found the Right one. It's free, but limited The Glendale Public Library currently offers high speed wireless connectivity at the Main Library, Foothills, and Velma Teague Branch Libraries. All visitors may use the library 's network free of charge and no special encryption settings are

Re: west side during the summer

2009-06-22 Thread Ryan Rix
On Mon 22 June 2009 3:47:08 pm Bob Elzer wrote: > According to this > http://library.ci.glendale.ca.us/wireless_internet_access.asp > > It is FREE > > username: guest > password: Glendale(Capital G) > Well well, and all this time I've been just reading magazines! :) Ryan -

RE: west side during the summer

2009-06-22 Thread Bob Elzer
Wait... stop that last message That was for Glendale Ca. Oops -Original Message- From: plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us [mailto:plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us] On Behalf Of Ryan Rix Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 3:28 PM To: schwa...@acm.org; Main PLUG

RE: west side during the summer

2009-06-22 Thread Bob Elzer
According to this http://library.ci.glendale.ca.us/wireless_internet_access.asp It is FREE username: guest password: Glendale(Capital G) -Original Message- From: plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us [mailto:plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us] On Behalf Of Ryan

Re: west side during the summer

2009-06-22 Thread Ryan Rix
On Mon 22 June 2009 2:41:21 pm Mike Schwartz wrote: > [3] the building has free wifi For Glendale Library cardholders (ie, residents), that is. I live at 43rd and Union, thus am unable to use their wifi, for example, without paying 40$/year for a card. And I don't use that library enough to ju

librarian's [libertine?] use of the word "FREE" (was: Re: west side during the summer)

2009-06-22 Thread Mike Schwartz
This is so cool: > ((...and that is free as in, "we do not have to pay"; >although maybe it is also "both" kinds of free -- in some sense)) The librarian's ".sig" includes this Stallman-esque maxim: (well, after you skip the "contact info") *: * * * <<(623) 930-3849 pjcampb...@glendaleaz.com

Re: Fedora Core 11

2009-06-22 Thread Stephen
Like ice cream 31 flavors is still not enough On 6/22/09, Lisa Kachold wrote: > I love Redhat, having built custom firewalls from basic installs under > Redhat 3/4 in the early 1990's. > > Course, I like Gentoo also. And I like Ubuntu, and Knoppix is wondaba > for some things. Ah, fickle I mig

Re: XenServer 5.5 is out

2009-06-22 Thread Francis Earl
> KVM ONLY works with chips that have virtualization extensions, and even then > it has less-than-stellar performance due to the use of qemu(which is a nice > tool, but quite slow) for the emulation layer. > XEN, VirtuaBox, Strange that you state Qemu as a negative for KVM, then go on to list tw

Re: Heat

2009-06-22 Thread Stephen
But its a dry heat *ducks* On 6/22/09, mike havens wrote: > Floridians are such wimps! They complain about 100 degrees! > > -- > :-)~MIKE~(-: > -- Sent from my mobile device A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you

Heat

2009-06-22 Thread mike havens
Floridians are such wimps! They complain about 100 degrees! -- :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/lis

Re: west side during the summer

2009-06-22 Thread Mike Schwartz
I think I have found a place for a nice location for the June 24, 2009 meeting. I just talked to the lady at the Foothills branch library, [image: Foothills Branch Library, 19055 N. 55th Ave.]*Foothills Branch Library 19055 N. 57th Ave.* Glendale, AZ 85308 and she is e-mailing me the forms, so we

Re: Fedora Core 11

2009-06-22 Thread Lisa Kachold
I love Redhat, having built custom firewalls from basic installs under Redhat 3/4 in the early 1990's. Course, I like Gentoo also. And I like Ubuntu, and Knoppix is wondaba for some things. Ah, fickle I might be: so many Nix, so little time... Of course, I like to make fun of them all also! On

HackFest Series: Starting in August 2009 - Labs begin at 10:00AM 2nd Saturday!

2009-06-22 Thread Lisa Kachold
Starting in August 2009 (Puppet) our presentations will start every month on the second Saturday at 10:00 (rather than Noon) and go until 13:00, which is a better way to carve up a day. See you all at the Foundation for Blind Children in July at the regular (inefficient) Noon time. On Mon, Jun 22

HackFest Series: Puppet

2009-06-22 Thread Lisa Kachold
August's HackFest Lab at the Foundation for Blind Children will center around puppet. We will have a one-ish hour of presentation, a puppet test lab including a fully fleshed out securely setup puppet. We will take some fest time to show how easy it is to pull strings, maintain configurations and

Re: No root password in Ubuntu 9.04 after updating

2009-06-22 Thread Ryan Rix
On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 11:36 AM, Clayton Stapleton wrote: > So I went to a terminal screen and entered > c...@eagle:~$ root > The program 'root' is currently not installed.  To run 'root' please ask your > administrator to install the package 'root-system-bin' > bash: root: command not found > An

Re: No root password in Ubuntu 9.04 after updating

2009-06-22 Thread Jason Holtzapple
--- On Mon, 6/22/09, Clayton Stapleton wrote: > From: Clayton Stapleton > Subject: No root password in Ubuntu 9.04 after updating > To: "Main PLUG discussion list" > Date: Monday, June 22, 2009, 11:36 AM > The Ubuntu 8.10 was working fine! > Then along come Ubuntu 9.04 so I decided to use the

No root password in Ubuntu 9.04 after updating

2009-06-22 Thread Clayton Stapleton
The Ubuntu 8.10 was working fine! Then along come Ubuntu 9.04 so I decided to use the latest. Put the x86 desktop disk in the computer and tried to install Ubuntu 9.04. This version of Ubuntu does not like my hardware and would not install. Then tried the x86 Alternate Ubuntu 9.04 disk. It upgra

No root password in Ubuntu 9.04 after updating

2009-06-22 Thread Clayton Stapleton
The Ubuntu 8.10 was working fine! Then along come Ubuntu 9.04 so I decided to use the latest. Put the x86 desktop disk in the computer and tried to install Ubuntu 9.04. This version of Ubuntu does not like my hardware and would not install. Then tried the x86 Alternate Ubuntu 9.04 disk. It upgra

Re: Fedora Core 11

2009-06-22 Thread Stephen
I may not like the way the Redhat flavored Linux operates, but i cannot deny the effect they have had on the Linux world. and overall they have been a positive effect. On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 6:15 AM, Alex Dean wrote: > Keep in mind that a lot of Red Hat money goes into developing the linux > kern

Re: CD access Ubuntu 8.04 / vmware player / Visduh

2009-06-22 Thread Lisa Kachold
On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 5:35 PM, Eric Shubert wrote: > That's what I tried. After I've inserted it and have the icon on my > desktop, I get: > > r...@edwin:~# umount /dev/scd0 > umount: /dev/scd0: not mounted > r...@edwin:~# > > Yet the icon is on my desktop, and when I double click it, Nautilus

Re: Fedora Core 11

2009-06-22 Thread Alex Dean
Keep in mind that a lot of Red Hat money goes into developing the linux kernel and other open source projects. If big corporations want to pay Red Hat to improve linux, why should any of us complain? As has been stated before many times, those who don't want to pay big bucks for RHEL have