Re: Google Chrome OS on Linux

2009-07-08 Thread Ryan Rix
On Tue 7 July 2009 10:24:10 pm Alan Dayley wrote: Google announced the concept of a new operating system they are calling Google Chrome OS. http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2009/07/introducing-google-chrome-os.html The software architecture is simple — Google Chrome running within a new

Re: Old computer users (Was: Re: Laptop (cell phone) in my pocket?)

2009-07-08 Thread Matt Graham
From: Alan Dayley ala...@consultpros.com History in general is vastly important, despite how it is treated in most schools. History: An account mostly false, of events mostly unimportant, which are brought about by rulers mostly knaves, and soldiers mostly fools. --Ambrose Bierce, _The

Re: Google Chrome OS on Linux

2009-07-08 Thread Joseph Sinclair
Ryan Rix wrote: On Tue 7 July 2009 10:24:10 pm Alan Dayley wrote: Google announced the concept of a new operating system they are calling Google Chrome OS. http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2009/07/introducing-google-chrome-os.html SNIP And so begins the destruction of Free software :(

Re: Laptop (cell phone) in my pocket?

2009-07-08 Thread Mark Jarvis
O the "joys" of standing in line to use one of the department's hulking 026 (later 029) keypunches, the tricks of duping a card up to the point where you needed to either add or delete punches and then holding one card while letting the other feed. Heaven forbid if you dropped a 2000 card box

Re: Old computer users (Was: Re: Laptop (cell phone) in my pocket?)

2009-07-08 Thread Technomage
Ryan Rix wrote: Thank you for changing the subject line ;) The funny thing about all of this, and talking to the retro hacker guy who sits next to me at work, is that I know what all of you are talking about, and I'm only 17. Not sure that's depressing or not xD I guess that's what

Re: Google Chrome OS on Linux

2009-07-08 Thread Tuna
Top posting as a crazed act of revenge, I'm actually with Ryan on this one. Open Source is almost trendy, largely because of Google and their Android platform. Now netbook owners everywhere will brag about their Linux-based open source operating system, forgetting the freedoms they give up with

Re: Old computer users (Was: Re: Laptop (cell phone) in my pocket?)

2009-07-08 Thread mike havens
my dad has one of those. Or perhaps he got rid of it after he transfered his music to cd. On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 4:50 AM, Technomage technomage.ha...@gmail.comwrote: Hell, I still have an old 1978 model year reel-to-reel recorder that works.

Re: Laptop (cell phone) in my pocket?

2009-07-08 Thread Mark Phillips
Ok.I have to add to the fun...My first computer was a teletype machine that dialed into a CDC (?) mainframe somewhere. No punch cards, just a paper tape about 2 wide. The only language was Basic. Make a typo, and you had to start all over again from the beginning. My first significant program

Re: Old computer users (Was: Re: Laptop (cell phone) in my pocket?)

2009-07-08 Thread Alan Dayley
On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 11:37 PM, Matt Grahamdanceswithcr...@usa.net wrote: From: Alan Dayley ala...@consultpros.com History in general is vastly important, despite how it is treated in most schools. History:  An account mostly false, of events mostly unimportant, which are brought about by

Re: Google Chrome OS on Linux

2009-07-08 Thread Ryan Rix
Tuna wrote: Top posting as a crazed act of revenge, D: I'm actually with Ryan on this one. :O What?? Open Source is almost trendy, largely because of Google and their Android platform. Now netbook owners everywhere will brag about their Linux-based open source operating system,

Re: Google Chrome OS on Linux

2009-07-08 Thread Lisa Kachold
On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 7:50 AM, Ryan Rix phrkonale...@gmail.com wrote: Tuna wrote: Top posting as a crazed act of revenge, D: I'm actually with Ryan on this one. :O What?? Open Source is almost trendy, largely because of Google and their Android platform. Now netbook owners

Re: OT: (sort of) Village in is now THE editor!

2009-07-08 Thread Stephen
At least it wasnt emacs? *ducks* On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 7:28 PM, Alan Dayleyala...@consultpros.com wrote: According to the following photo, Village Inn restaurant is evidently re-branding themselves as a well known text editor.  Some say, the only true text editor. http://twitpic.com/9mndv

Re: Laptop (cell phone) in my pocket?

2009-07-08 Thread Stephen
Technically First was a Custom Made S100 that my dad had created for working from home from spare parts at work, it has a modem that was manually adjusted from 400-9800 baud modem and some weird collection of cards doing things 2 terminals via serial and a pair of 8in floppy drives... was cool

Re: Old computer users (Was: Re: Laptop (cell phone) in my pocket?)

2009-07-08 Thread Stephen
For all of you looking for memory lane and to see how far back the old tech goes... http://www.computerhistory.org/ I personally want an altair shell and to load in a modern computer inside of it and make the lights blink again --- PLUG-discuss

Re: Old computer users (Was: Re: Laptop (cell phone) in my pocket?)

2009-07-08 Thread Stephen
This is the one i had actually menat to give also: http://www.old-computers.com/news/default.asp On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 9:21 AM, Stephencryptwo...@gmail.com wrote: For all of you looking for memory lane and to see how far back the old tech goes... http://www.computerhistory.org/ I

Re: Laptop (cell phone) in my pocket?

2009-07-08 Thread Eric Shubert
Stephen wrote: Technically First was a Custom Made S100 that my dad had created for working from home from spare parts at work, it has a modem that was manually adjusted from 400-9800 baud modem and some weird collection of cards doing things 2 terminals via serial and a pair of 8in floppy

Re: Old computer users (Was: Re: Laptop (cell phone) in my pocket?)

2009-07-08 Thread Lyle Tuttle
On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 9:21 AM, Stephencryptwo...@gmail.com wrote: For all of you looking for memory lane and to see how far back the old tech goes... http://www.computerhistory.org/ I personally want an altair shell and to load in a modern computer inside of it and make the lights blink

Re: PHP Script timing out and MySql using almost all the CPU and RAM questions

2009-07-08 Thread Joshua Zeidner
sounds like you have either a MySQl bug or a problem query. Turn on query logging and get the query that is causing the problem and post it here. -jmz On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 12:21 PM, keith smithklsmith2...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi Everyone, I do support for an online store. Last night we

PHP Script timing out and MySql using almost all the CPU and RAM questions

2009-07-08 Thread keith smith
Hi Everyone, I do support for an online store. Last night we were trying to run a report that was taking forever. It is a lot of data so I expected it to timeout. The owner says he has successfully run the report before. I shelled in and found MySql was using 98.3% of the CPU and I

Re: PHP Script timing out and MySql using almost all the CPU and RAM questions

2009-07-08 Thread keith smith
Thanks, I had not thought of the log. I think it is turned on already. Thanks again! Keith Smith --- On Wed, 7/8/09, Joshua Zeidner jjzeid...@gmail.com wrote: From: Joshua Zeidner jjzeid...@gmail.com Subject: Re: PHP Script timing out and MySql using almost all

Re: PHP Script timing out and MySql using almost all the CPU and RAM questions

2009-07-08 Thread Eric Cope
More RAM would certainly help as well. Its minimum requirements is 100MB, but 1GB would probably be a good minimum, especially with the prices of memory these days. Eric On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 12:23 PM, Joshua Zeidner jjzeid...@gmail.com wrote: sounds like you have either a MySQl bug or a

Re: PHP Script timing out and MySql using almost all the CPU and RAM questions

2009-07-08 Thread tshipley
In generic terms the database 101 class would say analyze your query to see if you can finagle the efficiency. A lot of reports link queries at the report/sub-report level, so look at the algorithm there. It is EASY to have a critical report that brings a system to its knees. Therefore, with

Re: Google Chrome OS on Linux

2009-07-08 Thread GK
I've been reading the articles as they have hit the web about Google OS. Well I guess we know when there will be Linux version of Chrome. LOL Google has used and provided many services based on FOSS, but they're still a business and they have competitors. One majorly fierce one being m$. So they

Re: Laptop (cell phone) in my pocket?

2009-07-08 Thread Stephen
It might have, i know the top end of the dial was 9800 (written in pen) but the low end might have been 300) On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 9:35 AM, Eric Shuberte...@shubes.net wrote: Stephen wrote: Technically First was a Custom Made S100 that my dad had created for working from home from spare parts

Re: PHP Script timing out and MySql using almost all the CPU and RAM questions

2009-07-08 Thread Stephen
for a webstore i would run about 1gb of ram unless it was a small userbase, just for the reports to run in a timely manner. I know here we tie into our MS_SQL collections Database and run huge and byzantine reports and procedures from PHP because its the best interface we have found for them, but

IPCop and Wireless Cards

2009-07-08 Thread Eric Cope
Anyone have any ideas on how to get a wireless card to work with IPCop? Its a Prism based card and is not recognized by the probe installation mechanism. Thanks, -- Eric Cope http://cope-et-al.com --- PLUG-discuss mailing list -

Re: Old computer users (Was: Re: Laptop (cell phone) in my pocket?)

2009-07-08 Thread Alex Dean
On Jul 8, 2009, at 9:37 AM, Alan Dayley wrote: True history is vastly important. The trouble here is that history is always written by someone. It is, by definition, an *interpretation* of past events. A history that does nothing but report facts is incomplete and deceptive in its own

Re: PHP Script timing out and MySql using almost all the CPU and RAM questions

2009-07-08 Thread Alex Dean
MySQL using 99% of CPU running a massive query doesn't sound unusual. If that's killing your production app, look into setting up a replication slave, and point your reporting queries at the slave. It's not too hard to set up. http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/replication.html On

Re: Google Chrome OS on Linux

2009-07-08 Thread Stephen
I think this is just a natural evolution of society, as we give up some things in the name of convenience the idea of them building this doesn't bother me, it just is a tailored use of a Linux kernel for a specific task. will i ever use it? no i do too many weird thigns on my home computer but

Re: Old computer users (Was: Re: Laptop (cell phone) in my pocket?)

2009-07-08 Thread Stephen
Having grown up with a historian (by education if not profession) history is only complete when as many people as possible record their thoughts... sadly it is usually the winner the gets to write things down. but like anything else said it is subjective, the skill and art of it is compareing as

Re: Google Chrome OS on Linux

2009-07-08 Thread Francis Earl
On Wednesday 08 July 2009 2:25:40 Tuna wrote: Top posting as a crazed act of revenge, Open Source is almost trendy, largely because of Google and their Android platform. You can't be serious? Most people still have no idea what Open Source is! Consumers certainly could care less what their

Re: Google Chrome OS on Linux

2009-07-08 Thread Francis Earl
Even with the Affero, it doesn't really help the regular user without a webserver or anything to run a webservice on. Red Hat is assisting with this already, as are Ubuntu and others. Sure they'll have to significantly boost their resources to provide the services, but what kind of

Re: Google Chrome OS on Linux

2009-07-08 Thread Francis Earl
And so begins the destruction of Free software :( Moving to the cloud (using the linux kernel, no less!) will only make it easier to provide closed and proprietary systems to the user. Sure, they may be free as in beer, but try getting a hold of the sourcecode for gmail, or flickr, or

Re: Google Chrome OS on Linux

2009-07-08 Thread Jim March
I think the google OS will possibly be a VERY cool thing, in that it'll have new back end underpinnings based on the work Google has been doing in-house for years. It could be as revolutionary as another core distro with it's own way of doing things, maybe even a whole new package management

Re: PHP Script timing out and MySql using almost all the CPU and RAM questions

2009-07-08 Thread Eric Shubert
tship...@deru.com wrote: In generic terms the database 101 class would say analyze your query to see if you can finagle the efficiency. A lot of reports link queries at the report/sub-report level, so look at the algorithm there. It is EASY to have a critical report that brings a system

Re: PHP Script timing out and MySql using almost all the CPU and RAM questions

2009-07-08 Thread Lisa Kachold
On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 5:02 PM, Eric Shubert e...@shubes.net wrote: tship...@deru.com wrote: In generic terms the database 101 class would say analyze your query to see if you can finagle the efficiency. A lot of reports link queries at the report/sub-report level, so look at the algorithm

OK, I want a bare bones motherboard. Does it exist?

2009-07-08 Thread kitepi...@kitepilot.com
I run my firewall off of a motherboard with video and sound and drive controllers and what not list of useless (for my application) components. My dream motherboard would be one with an Ethernet adapter, at least 3 PCI (or PCIe) buses so I can plug in 3 NICs, and a couple of USB ports to stick

Re: Google Chrome OS on Linux

2009-07-08 Thread Ryan Rix
On Wed 8 July 2009 4:06:14 pm Francis Earl wrote: The entire system will be open sourced, so everything necessary for innovation will be available to developers. I've never really sold into the whole Open Source EVERYTHING! mantra, I simply don't care provided the software strictly adheres to

cheese failing silently

2009-07-08 Thread Dazed_75
It used to work on this machine. What happens now is that it comes up, displays the user interface and then goes away. The only thing I have been able to find is the following message in auth.log: Jul 8 17:42:03 damselfish dbus-daemon: Rejected send message, 1 matched rules; type=method_call,

HackFest Series: Adding BackTrack Repositories to Ubuntu

2009-07-08 Thread Lisa Kachold
Adding BackTrack Repositories to Ubuntu GNOME: Goto System Administration Software Sources Click on the Third-Party Software tab and then on Add Insert this line and hit Add Source: Code: deb http://repo.offensive-security.com/dist/bt4 binary/ You may need to check the box next to the

Re: call for ABLEconf volunteers (fwd)

2009-07-08 Thread der.hans
Am 08. Jul, 2009 schwätzte Mike Schwartz so: moin moin Mike, I participate in the Phoenix Chapter ACM. That org has been inactive lately -- but it does have a valid 501(c)3 technically. That org might want to have a booth, or something, at the ABLEconf. Please include me for a Cc of any

Re: HackFest Series: Adding BackTrack Repositories to Ubuntu

2009-07-08 Thread Eric Shubert
Will you please explain (in 50 or so words or less) the difference between backtrack and backport repositories? Lisa Kachold wrote: Adding BackTrack Repositories to Ubuntu GNOME: Goto System Administration Software Sources Click on the Third-Party Software tab and then on Add

Re: Old computer users (Was: Re: Laptop (cell phone) in my pocket?)

2009-07-08 Thread fouldragon
I just disconnected a 1987-model keyboard from my desktop. Not out of any fault of the keyboard, but the PS/2-USB adapter acted wonky (inserting phantom keystrokes). I pine for the days when computers took entire racks and intimidated people. -Original Message- From: Bob Elzer

Re: HackFest Series: Adding BackTrack Repositories to Ubuntu

2009-07-08 Thread Lisa Kachold
Backtrack is a security pentesting LiveCD/installation package built upon Ubuntu similar debian linux distribution. Backtrack maintains it's own package repository of a great number of working tools for top down or bottom up security testing, and exploits that provide a way to think outside of

Re: IPCop Network Cards

2009-07-08 Thread Eric Cope
The current version of IPCop is 1.4.20, but the latest version of the OpenVPN addon only supports up to 1.4.18. Any ideas other than the obvious of running the older version? Eric On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 10:40 PM, Eric Shubert e...@shubes.net wrote: Eric Cope wrote: 2) I have a VPN server

Re: cheese failing silently

2009-07-08 Thread Lisa Kachold
On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 7:04 PM, Dazed_75 lthiels...@gmail.com wrote: It used to work on this machine. What happens now is that it comes up, displays the user interface and then goes away. The only thing I have been able to find is the following message in auth.log: Jul 8 17:42:03

Re: cheese failing silently

2009-07-08 Thread Dazed_75
On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 9:30 PM, Lisa Kachold lisakach...@obnosis.comwrote: On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 7:04 PM, Dazed_75 lthiels...@gmail.com wrote: It used to work on this machine. What happens now is that it comes up, displays the user interface and then goes away. The only thing I have been

Re: cheese failing silently

2009-07-08 Thread Dazed_75
Forgot to answer a couple of your questions. On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 9:30 PM, Lisa Kachold lisakach...@obnosis.comwrote: snip Did this start after you updated? Not sure as the only times I have used it was to check if it worked. Like for my presentation at East Side tomorrow. Try to