Re: Resolved: cheese failing silently

2009-07-30 Thread Michael Butash
Wow, right on - first time ive actually seen cheese work for me! Thanks for that tidbit, worked quite well here. I'd long ago given up on it. :) Now I might follow up with why the camera in my m1330 dell will only work in the lowest graphics mode... meh, always something. -mb On Wed, 2009-0

Re: BAD kubuntu

2009-07-30 Thread Michael Butash
Honestly I'd had nothing but issues using Kubuntu using it until around 7.04. When I upgraded to 7.10, i went to ubuntu and never looked back. KDE 4 was a kludge back then, not sure how it is now, but I've heard not much has changed. Despite that, I can't imagine it not booting after an update -

Re: BAD kubuntu

2009-07-30 Thread Ryan Rix
On Thu 30 July 2009 12:17:40 am Michael Butash wrote: > but I've heard not > much has changed. You've heard wrong. KDE4.3 will be just as mature as 3.5 and with a hell of a lot more features and future. -- --- Ryan Rix (623)-826-0051 Problem solving under Linux has never been the circus that i

Re: guess what....

2009-07-30 Thread mike havens
I think we were all agreeing I was just commenting to the fact that the illegal alien problem is not as front-n-center as it is in AZ. Sorry for any confusion. 2009/7/30 Ryan Rix > On Wed 29 July 2009 10:33:29 pm Lyle Tuttle wrote: > > At 08:00 PM 7/29/2009, you wrote: > > >I moved here and

Re: BAD kubuntu

2009-07-30 Thread Lisa Kachold
Boot to live CD/DVD # tail /var/log/messages # dmesg |more highlight/copy/drop to email for us? On 7/30/09, Ryan Rix wrote: > On Thu 30 July 2009 12:17:40 am Michael Butash wrote: >> but I've heard not >> much has changed. > > You've heard wrong. KDE4.3 will be just as mature as 3.5 and with a

Microsoft Submits Code to Linux Kernel - Linus Responds

2009-07-30 Thread Lisa Kachold
http://www.linux-mag.com/cache/7439/1.html -- (623)239-3392 (503)754-4452 www.obnosis.com --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az

Re: ****Re: guess what....

2009-07-30 Thread Craig White
On Wed, 2009-07-29 at 22:33 -0700, Lyle Tuttle wrote: > Perhaps you are looking at the wrong source.we now have a $3 > Billion deficit.check out these numbers in bold blue. every state has a major deficit as they clearly were unprepared for such a drastic change in the economy.

Re: Microsoft Submits Code to Linux Kernel - Linus Responds

2009-07-30 Thread James Finstrom
Would be funny if it got rejected for not meeting coding standards. On 7/30/09, Lisa Kachold wrote: > http://www.linux-mag.com/cache/7439/1.html > > -- > > (623)239-3392 > (503)754-4452 www.obnosis.com > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discus

Re: ****Re: guess what....

2009-07-30 Thread JD Austin
I was waiting to see how long until racism was called :) It is a fact that illegal immigration is costing Az and Ca plenty and pointing that out doesn't make him hate filled or racist. I don't blame them for coming here... If I were them I'd do it too. We need to remove the 'free' incentives that

Re: I need help with IPCop.

2009-07-30 Thread Lisa Kachold
On 7/29/09, Matthew A Coulliette wrote: > hi, > > First of all, I would like to apologize for the long email. But, I have > a few questions that I have not been able to find the answers to. So, I > would greatly appreciate any helpful advice. Here is the setup of my > network: > > router (IPCop)

Re: guess what....

2009-07-30 Thread Ryan Rix
On Thu 30 July 2009 1:11:21 am mike havens wrote: > I think we were all agreeing I was just commenting to the fact that the > illegal alien problem is not as front-n-center as it is in AZ. Sorry for > any confusion. See, I told you :) > > 2009/7/30 Ryan Rix > > > On Wed 29 July 2009 10:33:29

Re: ****Re: guess what....

2009-07-30 Thread Lisa Kachold
Well, that is the American model? 1) Limited, inefficient and horrendously expensive health care (where are the majority of my high school peers? dead) which exists as part of the "insurance industry" (rather than the scientific and health industries [which are non-existent!] 2) Feeding frenzy of

Re: Microsoft Submits Code to Linux Kernel - Linus Responds

2009-07-30 Thread Ryan Rix
On Thu 30 July 2009 6:35:02 am James Finstrom wrote: > Would be funny if it got rejected for not meeting coding standards. > > On 7/30/09, Lisa Kachold wrote: > > http://www.linux-mag.com/cache/7439/1.html My 0.02$ http://hackersramblings.wordpress.com/2009/07/24/microsoft- contributes-to-the-lin

Kmail or Evolution?

2009-07-30 Thread mike Enriquez
Which of these email clients do you like (Kmail or Evolution); and why? Please reply so I can see which one of these is the most used. I will gladly foward the results to the group. Thanks Mike Enriquez --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@l

Re: ****Re: guess what....

2009-07-30 Thread JD Austin
The 'other' model isn't working any better. My wife works in an Urgent Care; tons of Canadians come here to get the health care they need. I think the whole industry needs to be more competitive; most things in health care shouldn't cost what they do. On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 6:57 AM, Lisa Kacho

Re: guess what....

2009-07-30 Thread David
On Jul 29, 2009, at 10:54 PM, Ryan Rix wrote: > > > And here we have it, the rare but savage introduction to a PLUG- > discuss > political maelstrom. Look at the size of its horns, oh what a beauty. > > The male begins with its mating call, usually in the form of an on > topic, but > political

Re: ****Re: guess what....

2009-07-30 Thread James Finstrom
There is only one job in politics and that is to keep your job. To keep your job you need 2 things, money and votes. Money comes from special interest groups so politicians must cater to them or they will not be able to afford a campaign. Cutting social services that are bleading the various levels

Re: ****Re: guess what....

2009-07-30 Thread Craig White
On Thu, 2009-07-30 at 06:43 -0700, JD Austin wrote: > > I was waiting to see how long until racism was called :) > It is a fact that illegal immigration is costing Az and Ca plenty and > pointing that out doesn't make him hate filled or racist. I don't > blame them for coming here... If I were th

Re: ****Re: guess what....

2009-07-30 Thread Eric Cope
This is the first time I agree with Craig (for the most part). Perhaps if immigration weren't illegal... On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 7:21 AM, Craig White wrote: > On Thu, 2009-07-30 at 06:43 -0700, JD Austin wrote: > > > > I was waiting to see how long until racism was called :) > > It is a fact tha

Re: guess what....

2009-07-30 Thread Lyle Tuttle
At 03:03 AM 7/30/2009, you wrote: I think we were all agreeing I was just commenting to the fact that the illegal alien problem is not as front-n-center as it is in AZ. Sorry for any confusion. Sorry - that was only supposed to go to the poster -

Re: guess what....

2009-07-30 Thread Ryan Rix
Lyle Tuttle wrote: > At 03:03 AM 7/30/2009, you wrote: >> I think we were all agreeing I was just commenting to the fact >> that the illegal alien problem is not as front-n-center as it is in >> AZ. Sorry for any confusion. > > Sorry - that was only supposed to go to the poster > I've

Re: ****Re: guess what....

2009-07-30 Thread Lyle Tuttle
At 07:16 AM 7/30/2009, you wrote: There is only one job in politics I am really sorry I 'spoke' up.let's talk Linux lyle --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail

Re: Kmail or Evolution?

2009-07-30 Thread Ryan Rix
mike Enriquez wrote: > Which of these email clients do you like (Kmail or Evolution); and why? > Please reply so I can see which one of these is the most used. I will > gladly foward the results to the group. Hi, The entire KDEPIM suite is simply stellar. I use all of them at once through Konta

Re: ****Re: guess what....

2009-07-30 Thread Craig White
On Thu, 2009-07-30 at 07:28 -0700, Eric Cope wrote: > This is the first time I agree with Craig (for the most part). > Perhaps if immigration weren't illegal... immigration isn't illegal. staying after your permission/visa expires isn't a crime. none of this has anything to do with Linux. Cra

Re: Kmail or Evolution?

2009-07-30 Thread Mark Phillips
MIke, FWIW, I have used both, and moved to gmail, or more specifically, Google Apps. It has calendar, email, tasks, address book, etc - all I needed in a PIM. I can also sync my Blackberry. The interface works well in all the browsers I have used, and I don't need my computer for a quick email che

Anybody Use Galeon Browser?

2009-07-30 Thread Mark Phillips
I have been using the galeon 2.0.7 on a Debian (testing) machine. Whenever I print with this browser, the headers and footers are in Chinese and little boxes. Anyone else use this browser and know how to fix this problem? It has a small footprint and I use it for connecting to google apps. Thanks!

Re: Kmail or Evolution?

2009-07-30 Thread tshipley
I was very happy with Kmail for a long time. However, Kmail stores messages in its own format, so if you ever want to change clients its extra hassle. Sent from my BlackBerry Smartphone provided by Alltel -Original Message- From: Mark Phillips Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 07:51:24 To: Main

Re: Kmail or Evolution?

2009-07-30 Thread Matt Graham
From: tship...@deru.com > I was very happy with Kmail for a long time. However, Kmail stores > messages in its own format, so if you ever want to change clients > its extra hassle. I use kmail, mostly because it's really customizable. And the main feature of evolution, the ability to get mail fr

Re: ****Re: guess what....

2009-07-30 Thread Joshua Zeidner
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 7:21 AM, Craig White wrote: > On Thu, 2009-07-30 at 06:43 -0700, JD Austin wrote: >> >> I was waiting to see how long until racism was called :) >> It is a fact that illegal immigration is costing Az and Ca plenty and >> pointing that out doesn't make him hate filled or raci

Re: Politcal OT (beware!): ****Re: guess what....

2009-07-30 Thread Ryan Rix
On Thu 30 July 2009 9:32:57 am Joshua Zeidner wrote: > On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 7:21 AM, Craig White wrote: > > On Thu, 2009-07-30 at 06:43 -0700, JD Austin wrote: > >> I was waiting to see how long until racism was called :) > >> It is a fact that illegal immigration is costing Az and Ca plenty and

Re: Kmail or Evolution?

2009-07-30 Thread Nathan England
On Thursday 30 July 2009 07:08:41 am mike Enriquez wrote: > Which of these email clients do you like (Kmail or Evolution); and why? > Please reply so I can see which one of these is the most used. I will > gladly foward the results to the group. > Thanks > Mike Enriquez > > --

Re: Kmail or Evolution?

2009-07-30 Thread Ryan Rix
Nathan England wrote: > > I have in the past setup a gmail account and used disconnected IMAP > with gmail and still was able to use my calendar information, which > gmail automatically picked up on though I never had to set anything > up. orly?? details? +_+ That looks like fun. I kinda figu

[JOB] PHP5 Developer - Telecommute - 60k/year

2009-07-30 Thread Beau Gould (OSS)
My client has a small business specializing in e-commmerce software/solutions for small/medium sized businesses. They've spent last 3 years working on a ground up rewrite in OO PHP5, MySQL5, Ajax (Jquery), Smarty, etc. They have had live customers for over a year now but have not officially release

Re: guess what....

2009-07-30 Thread keith smith
Part of the problem is our state is spending almost twice what it did 5 years ago. All they need to do is cut back on their spending. Keith Smith --- On Wed, 7/29/09, Lyle Tuttle wrote: > From: Lyle Tuttle > Subject: Re: guess what > To: "Main PLUG discussion l

LOPSA - 19th Annual Systems Administration Appreciation Day Friday July 31, 2009

2009-07-30 Thread Lisa Kachold
http://www.sysadminday.com/ -- (623)239-3392 (503)754-4452 www.obnosis.com --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/lis

Re: ****Re: guess what....

2009-07-30 Thread keith smith
Interesting. What is on topic? Seems most everything is off topic these days. I received a ticket the other day for running a red light. 213 dollars and 1/2 a day in class and I am on my way. No lenience for me. Seems I broke the law. I understand the system. If someone jumps our border f

Re: ****Re: guess what....

2009-07-30 Thread keith smith
It appears you are uninformed. We pay at all levels for the illegal aliens. I've seen this first hand. Keith Smith --- On Thu, 7/30/09, Craig White wrote: > From: Craig White > Subject: Re: Re: guess what > To: "Main PLUG discussion list" > Date: Thur

Re: ****Re: guess what....

2009-07-30 Thread keith smith
So we just let in rapists and those with tuberculosis? Did you know that tuberculosis is a big problem with illegal aliens coming form Mexico? We have the right to inspect those who we allow into our country. Keith Smith --- On Thu, 7/30/09, Eric Cope wrote: > Fro

Re: ****Re: guess what....

2009-07-30 Thread Joshua Zeidner
Thanks Keith. I am standing right behind you. -jmz On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 11:08 AM, keith smith wrote: > > > Interesting.  What is on topic?  Seems most everything is off topic these > days. > > I received a ticket the other day for running a red light. 213 dollars and > 1/2 a day in clas

Re: ****Re: guess what....

2009-07-30 Thread Ryan Rix
Eric Cope wrote: > This is the first time I agree with Craig (for the most part). > Perhaps if immigration weren't illegal... > Immigration is legal. As long as you do it through the normal means and don't steal a real American's identity to do it. Illegal immigration is just that, illegal. Rya

RE: guess what....

2009-07-30 Thread Bob Elzer
Is it me, or is Ryan sending empty messages every once in a while ? Or am I missing something, this is the second one in this thread ??? > -Original Message- > From: plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > [mailto:plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us] On > Behalf Of R

Mail issues? (Was: Re: guess what....)

2009-07-30 Thread Ryan Rix
Bob Elzer wrote: > Is it me, or is Ryan sending empty messages every once in a while ? > > Or am I missing something, this is the second one in this thread ??? > afaik, NOT! I'm signing my messages using gpg on KMail, but most of these messages are coming from my work copy of Thunderbird. Of

GPG test? Does this show up?

2009-07-30 Thread Ryan Rix
Hi, Testing one two three? Ryan --- Ryan Rix (623)-826-0051 ...you might as well skip the Xmas celebration completely, and instead sit in front of your linux computer playing with the all-new-and-improved linux kernel version. -- Linus Torvalds http://hackersramblings.wordpress.com |

Re: ****Re: guess what....

2009-07-30 Thread mike havens
I didn't start this one! On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 2:17 PM, Ryan Rix wrote: > Eric Cope wrote: > > This is the first time I agree with Craig (for the most part). > > Perhaps if immigration weren't illegal... > > > > Immigration is legal. As long as you do it through the normal means and > don't st

Re: guess what....

2009-07-30 Thread Ryan Rix
Bob Elzer wrote: > Is it me, or is Ryan sending empty messages every once in a while ? > > Or am I missing something, this is the second one in this thread ??? > Both signed (KMail) and unsigned (Thunderbird) messages are working here... --- PLUG

Re: ****Re: guess what....

2009-07-30 Thread keith smith
It's not a crime? Is anything a crime if there is a law that says it is? These are not people who failed to return after their visa expired. In 1999 there were 3000 illegal aliens caught in Douglas AZ every day. This means there were more who got through. There is 20 - 60 million illegal

Re: Kmail or Evolution?

2009-07-30 Thread Jason Hayes
On Thursday 30 July 2009 07:08:41 am mike Enriquez wrote: > Which of these email clients do you like (Kmail or Evolution); and why? > Please reply so I can see which one of these is the most used. I will > gladly foward the results to the group. > Thanks > Mike Enriquez I use Kmail (Kontact). I us

Re: guess what....

2009-07-30 Thread Ryan Rix
Bob Elzer wrote: > Is it me, or is Ryan sending empty messages every once in a while ? > > Or am I missing something, this is the second one in this thread ??? > Apparently my signature key was not on keyservers, and kgpg had magically forgotten about it. Generating a new one. Ryan ---

Re: ****Re: guess what....

2009-07-30 Thread Joshua Zeidner
and the fact that they ignore these obvious problems and instead suggest selling off the state legislative building shows how exaggerated and ridiculous this has become. I was down at the State Senate last week. Its great to see the senators waving to their lobbyist friends in the balcony. I d

Re: ****Re: guess what....

2009-07-30 Thread Jon M. Hanson
This is off topic for this list. Please exercise some mailing list etiquette and take this discussion to your private e-mail instead of wasting bandwidth here. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 30, 2009, at 11:28 AM, keith smith wrote: > > > It's not a crime? Is anything a crime if there is a law

YAGPGT (Yet another GPG test)

2009-07-30 Thread Ryan Rix
Hi, Sorry for crapping up the list. I've just uploaded a new key, which should hopefully make it to the list. It's on wwwkeys.pgp.net so hopefully will propogate soon. Sorry for the confusion. --- Ryan Rix (623)-826-0051 >Ever heard of .cshrc? That's a city in Bosnia. Right? -- Discuss

RE: ****Re: guess what....

2009-07-30 Thread Bob Elzer
When money gets tight. People start looking at where their money is being spent (And Wasted) Whether it's illegal aliens getting our tax dollars, or Hospitals charging $100 for two aspirin (Why can't I just pay them back with a bottle of aspirin), Or phone companies charging ridiculous rates. Th

Re: ****Re: guess what....

2009-07-30 Thread James Finstrom
It seems the security holes in the border were not from bad policy. This whole time they were running windows... Redmond says we should see patches shortly... On 7/30/09, Joshua Zeidner wrote: > Thanks Keith. I am standing right behind you. > > -jmz > > On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 11:08 AM, keit

Re: ****Re: guess what....

2009-07-30 Thread mike havens
BURN! On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 3:16 PM, James Finstrom < jfinst...@rhinoequipment.com> wrote: > It seems the security holes in the border were not from bad policy. > This whole time they were running windows... Redmond says we should > see patches shortly... > > On 7/30/09, Joshua Zeidner wrote:

Re: ****Re: guess what....

2009-07-30 Thread Joshua Zeidner
why do you think it is they gave Napolitano her new job? On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 12:16 PM, James Finstrom wrote: > It seems the security holes in the border were not from bad policy. > This whole time they were running windows... Redmond says we should > see patches shortly... > > On 7/30/09, Jo

RE: YAGPGT (Yet another GPG test)

2009-07-30 Thread Bob Elzer
I checked the list, and your messages are intact, just not when I got them. Guess I wasn't wearing my Captain Midnight decoder ring. > -Original Message- > From: plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > [mailto:plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us] On > Behalf Of Ryan R

Re: ****Re: guess what....

2009-07-30 Thread mike havens
I think it's because she sympathizes with the aliens. On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 3:19 PM, Joshua Zeidner wrote: > why do you think it is they gave Napolitano her new job? > > On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 12:16 PM, James > Finstrom wrote: > > It seems the security holes in the border were not from bad p

Re: ****Re: guess what....

2009-07-30 Thread Joshua Zeidner
do you view that as corrupt? On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 12:46 PM, mike havens wrote: > I think it's because she sympathizes with the aliens. > > On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 3:19 PM, Joshua Zeidner wrote: >> >>  why do you think it is they gave Napolitano her new job? >> >> On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 12:

Re: ****Re: guess what....

2009-07-30 Thread Ryan Rix
mike havens wrote: > I think it's because she sympathizes with the aliens. > I think it's because she smashed the stack on gained admin access on their boxen. > On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 3:19 PM, Joshua Zeidner wrote: > >> why do you think it is they gave Napolitano her new job? >> >> On Thu,

Re: Kmail or Evolution?

2009-07-30 Thread Francis Earl
On Thu, 2009-07-30 at 07:08 -0700, mike Enriquez wrote: > Which of these email clients do you like (Kmail or Evolution); and why? I personally prefer Evolution for a few different reasons, amongst them, calendar and contacts import more easily from Google sites. Also, one thing that is seriously a

Re: Kmail or Evolution?

2009-07-30 Thread Nathan England
On Thursday 30 July 2009 01:40:18 pm Francis Earl wrote: > On Thu, 2009-07-30 at 07:08 -0700, mike Enriquez wrote: > > Which of these email clients do you like (Kmail or Evolution); and why? > > I personally prefer Evolution for a few different reasons, amongst them, > calendar and contacts import

Re: Kmail or Evolution?

2009-07-30 Thread Ryan Rix
Francis Earl wrote: > On Thu, 2009-07-30 at 07:08 -0700, mike Enriquez wrote: >> Which of these email clients do you like (Kmail or Evolution); and why? > > I personally prefer Evolution for a few different reasons, amongst them, > calendar and contacts import more easily from Google sites. Also,

Zii?

2009-07-30 Thread Ryan Rix
Hi, Has anyone ever heard of this thing? http://www.zii.com apparently, it's God in mobile hardware form, but it just screams vapourware to me... Anyone with another opinion? Ryan --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.a

Re: Kmail or Evolution?

2009-07-30 Thread Michael Butash
I used to use Thunderbird entirely until I worked for a company that ran Exchange, so rather than run Evolution AND Thunderbird, I ended up consolidating to Evolution alone. At first it was painful circa Ubuntu 7.10 days crashing all the time, but it was the only usable way I could access exchange

Re: GPG test? Does this show up?

2009-07-30 Thread Dazed_75
yep mit does On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 11:20 AM, Ryan Rix wrote: > Hi, > > Testing one two three? > > Ryan > > --- > Ryan Rix > (623)-826-0051 > > ...you might as well skip the Xmas celebration completely, and instead > sit in front of your linux computer playing with the all-new-and-improved > li

Re: GPG test? Does this show up?

2009-07-30 Thread Ryan Rix
Dazed_75 wrote: > yep mit does > Thanks :) --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss

Re: ****Re: guess what....

2009-07-30 Thread Lisa Kachold
On 7/30/09, JD Austin wrote: > The 'other' model isn't working any better. My wife works in an Urgent > Care; tons of Canadians come here to get the health care they need. I think > the whole industry needs to be more competitive; most things in health care > shouldn't cost what they do. > Ineff

RE: Zii?

2009-07-30 Thread Bob Elzer
Drool... .. o ooo--__ \.. > -Original Message- > From: plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > [mailto:plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us] On > Behalf Of Ryan Rix > Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 2:30 PM > To: Main PLUG discuss

Re: Zii?

2009-07-30 Thread Michael Butash
I saw Creative's marketing videos released a few days ago and drooled... Engadget had it right, it'd be dreamy if it were a phone, but otherwise probably just another niche DMP behind the ubiquitous i(cky)pods people seem to favor for no apparent reason than wanting to pay their apple tax. Sounds

Re: Kmail or Evolution?

2009-07-30 Thread Lyle Tuttle
At 02:04 PM 7/30/2009, you wrote: I guess, if you do not use a preview pane for viewing your messages, in which case you press the left < or right > arrows on your keyboard to view the next or previous messages, you would not be able to easily view the next message because you have "opened" a

Re: ****Re: guess what....

2009-07-30 Thread Robert Holtzman
On Thu, 30 Jul 2009, keith smith wrote: > > So we just let in rapists and those with tuberculosis? Lok up the wimmen an chilun. The rapists is acomin. -- Bob Holtzman AF9D 8760 0CFA F95A 6C77 E125 BF90 580F 8D54 9279 "If you think you're getting free lunch, check the price of the beer" -

Re: opensource wide area san?

2009-07-30 Thread Stephen
This si kind of what we have... "Is the environment use windows DFS or anything? FRS was crap, but DFS-R (R2) might provide adherence to bandwidth limits on site-based replication. I'm looking at giving iscsi targets to windows off a local san (OF), and giving DFS-R a try to manage replications

announcing ABLEconf Phoenix 2009

2009-07-30 Thread der.hans
moin moin, ABLEconf officially announced its next event: Saturday, 2009Okt24 at UAT. Once again it will be an all day event with a party in the evening. We are working on adding some other events as well. Please help us get the word out! Watch for a call for presentations. http://www.ABLEconf.c

perlmonks.org site User Information Leak

2009-07-30 Thread Ben
You might want to change your password. http://www.perlmonks.org/?node_id=784737 http://perlbuzz.com/2009/07/perlmonks-users-your-passwords-have-been-published.html Ben --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscri

Re: Kmail or Evolution?

2009-07-30 Thread Jerry Davis
On Thu, 30 Jul 2009 07:08:41 -0700 mike Enriquez wrote: > Which of these email clients do you like (Kmail or Evolution); and why? > Please reply so I can see which one of these is the most used. I will > gladly foward the results to the group. > Thanks > Mike Enriquez > I used to use kmail a c

Re: Microsoft Submits Code to Linux Kernel - Linus Responds

2009-07-30 Thread Dennis Kibbe
On Thu, 2009-07-30 at 06:22 -0700, Lisa Kachold wrote: > http://www.linux-mag.com/cache/7439/1.html > It's worthwhile reading Bradly Kuhn's blog at the Software Freedom Law Center. http://www.softwarefreedom.org/blog/ >From Bradley's blog: "Like all GPL violations . . ., it's left to the cop