Re: Makefile question...

On Oct 27, 2009, at 7:05 PM, Bob Elzer wrote: > what's more automated than make ??? Of course there are also Apache Ant, Eclipse and Ruby Rake -- It is an ironic habit of human beings to run faster when we have lost our way. -Rollo May ---

Re: DSL Speed

On Oct 15, 2009, at 6:08 PM, Bill Jonas wrote: > On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 06:25:37AM -0700, Chris Gehlker wrote: >> Here's what I don't understand. If the site is capable of serving >> files at 700 kbps, why wasn't I always getting them at that rate? >> Sure

DSL Speed

Recently I upgraded my DSL service from a nominal 1.5 mbps to a nominal 7 mbps. Internet speed test sites mostly agree that my actual speed went from about 1.3 mbps to about 6 mbps. This conformed to my expectations. Something happened that I didn't expect at all and I'm at a loss to expla

The Failure of the GPL

Interesting article even if the title is a bit of a troll -- Right now I'm having amnesia and deja vu at the same time. I think I've forgotten this before. -Steven Wright, comedian (b. 1955) -- Seven Deadly Sins? I thought it wa

Re: instant messanger

On Jun 24, 2009, at 1:48 PM, mike havens wrote: > Is there an open source way to get instant messaging onto a webpage? It's hard to understand exactly what you are asking for. Can you point us to an example? -- Conscience is thoroughly well-bred and soon leaves off talking to those who do not

Re: OT: ICANN and NRO

On Jun 24, 2009, at 7:54 AM, Lyle Tuttle wrote: > At 07:24 AM 6/24/2009, you wrote: >> On Wed, 2009-06-24 at 05:23 -0700, Lyle Tuttle wrote: >> > At 09:14 PM 6/23/2009, you wrote: >> > > On Tue, 2009-06-23 at 21:06 -0700, keith smith wrote: >> > > > >> > > > I would say Al Gore is Mr. Mis-Informa

Re: OT: ICANN and NRO

On Jun 24, 2009, at 10:25 AM, Eric Shubert wrote: > I did. The fact that the site is sponsored by Conoco-Phillips would > indicate that it deserves extra scrutiny, to be sure. So be sure to > give > the content extra scrutiny. I think it'd be foolish though to > disregard > it entirely because

Re: OT: ICANN and NRO

On Jun 24, 2009, at 9:00 AM, Eric Shubert wrote: > If anyone is really interested in or would like to ponder some > meaningful information regarding global warming, please see > http://www.geocraft.com/WVFossils/ice_ages.html > Of course, people believe what they choose to believe. Or you could

Re: OT: ICANN and NRO

On Jun 24, 2009, at 8:27 AM, Craig White wrote: > On Wed, 2009-06-24 at 08:15 -0700, Chris Gehlker wrote: >> On Jun 24, 2009, at 7:59 AM, Craig White wrote: >> >>> The polar ice caps are melting at a record pace. Where is it you >>> believe >>> ice is i

Re: OT: ICANN and NRO

On Jun 24, 2009, at 7:59 AM, Craig White wrote: > The polar ice caps are melting at a record pace. Where is it you > believe > ice is increasing? Maybe at the poles in the next few decades. -- Egotism is the anesthetic that

Re: OT: ICANN and NRO

On Jun 24, 2009, at 5:31 AM, Lyle Tuttle wrote: > Question: Have you watched Fox News? Listened to Rush Limbaugh? It's interesting to google for 'average age of fox news viewer'. I've checked out both enough to know that their principal product is reassurance to their aging audience that t

Re: OT: SOLVED: What Computer to Take to Coilege and Brand new iTouchfor Sale

On Jun 23, 2009, at 5:41 PM, Lisa Kachold wrote: > But since you use Ubuntu, might as well Use UBUNTU? > > http://www.kremalicious.com/2008/06/ubuntu-as-mac-file-server-and-time-machine-volume/ kewl! -- A young idea is a beautiful and a fragile thing. Attack people, not ideas. ---

Re: OT: SOLVED: What Computer to Take to Coilege and Brand new iTouch for Sale

On Jun 23, 2009, at 12:37 PM, Mark Phillips wrote: > > > On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 11:42 AM, Lisa Kachold > wrote: > Be sure you fully protect her: > http://www.geckoandfly.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/iworm_apple_mac_os_x_leopard_tiger_virus_torjan_anti_virus_download_free.jpg > OK, oh security

Re: OT: SOLVED: What Computer to Take to Coilege and Brand new iTouch for Sale

On Jun 23, 2009, at 1:01 PM, Lisa Kachold wrote: > Setup her firewall to exclude all inbound I've seem this advice quite e few times but I have also seen the opposite: don't bother to block inbound ports where no service is enabled. I've always thought the latter advice made more sense in

Re: OT: SOLVED: What Computer to Take to Coilege and Brand new iTouch for Sale

On Jun 23, 2009, at 12:32 PM, Mark Phillips wrote: > At this point, I am not allowed to touch it, nor are her sisters and > mother. Why not suggest that *she* install Linux on it so she can 'try out' Boot Camp? -- Egotism is the anesthetic that dulls the pain of stupidity. -Frank Willi

Re: Opera as a Server

On Jun 20, 2009, at 8:13 PM, Lisa Kachold wrote: > http://arstechnica.com/web/news/2009/06/opera-hoping-to-reinvent-the-web-by-making-browser-a-server.ars Microsoft puts a server, enabled by default, in the OS and that works out so well with Blaster et al that it spawns a new industry of fir

Re: sortof OT: wiki software

On Jun 15, 2009, at 9:15 AM, Jason Hayes wrote: > I know that this may be a Chevy vs. Ford, or which distro is the > best distro > kind of question, but I need to find a solid, easy to use wiki setup > for people > who may or may not be terribly tech-savvy. > > I will set it up (so that does

Re: wired/wireless security

On Jun 6, 2009, at 8:08 AM, Jim March wrote: >> One comment and one question: >> Comment:Unless you get the malware off every computer on >> your LAN >> before you reset your router the malware will just rejigger the >> router. > > Not if you change the admin password this time around

Re: wired/wireless security

On Jun 5, 2009, at 10:16 PM, Jim March wrote: > As far as I'm aware, doing a router hard reset with a toothpick to the > "hidden button" in the back will flush that sort of idiocy out. One comment and one question: Comment:Unless you get the malware off every computer on your LAN before

Re: wired/wireless security

On Jun 5, 2009, at 3:17 PM, Robert Holtzman wrote: > Recently got wireless working with a laptop on wireless and a hard > wired > desktop hardwired to the router. Logically(?) it seems as though the > security with the router's wireless function disabled would be > equivalent to that of a compu

Re: Best first programming language

On May 19, 2009, at 8:51 AM, Paul Mooring wrote: > I really like ruby as well but my experience has been if he's planning > on pursuing some type of CS degree he'll definitely need to know java > and C++ for 90% of the programming related classes, so that might be a > better place to start. Her

Re: info on a DNS

On May 19, 2009, at 8:31 AM, Eric Shubert wrote: > Nice output, Chris. Care to share what created it? You got me. It was Network Utility from OS X. > > Chris Gehlker wrote: >> On May 19, 2009, at 3:54 AM, mike havens wrote: >> >>> I want to find out all that I c

Re: Best first programming language

On May 19, 2009, at 5:12 AM, Dennis Kibbe wrote: > I searched the archive but didn't find a previous discussion about > this. > > A friend who graduates from high school next week wants to take a > summer course in programming. His goal is to become a business > applications programmer. > >

Re: info on a DNS

On May 19, 2009, at 3:54 AM, mike havens wrote: > I want to find out all that I can about a certain Domain Name > Server. Unfortunately, I do not have linux on my computer so I will > have to ask someone to do this for me. The DNS is 4.2.2.2 or 4.2.2.1 Ping has started ... PING 4.2.2.2 (4.2

Re: Migrating from Outlook to Evolution

On May 18, 2009, at 1:21 PM, Stephen wrote: > well the imap solution would have been my suggestion as well. I think I found the solution. If this doesn't work, gmail sync is a great solution. Turns out I can migrate the contacts as vCards. -- The fund

Re: Migrating from Outlook to Evolution

On May 18, 2009, at 10:35 AM, Eric Shubert wrote: > If you set up an IMAP server, you can simply use Outlook to move the > messages out of the local pst file into the IMAP store. Then you can > access the email from any IMAP client (including Blackberry). > > Probably not the solution you're looki

Migrating from Outlook to Evolution

I'm trying to help a Linux newbie migrate his personal data from Outlook to Evolution and so far the solutions I have found seem unnecessarily convoluted. Here are the approaches I have found so far: 1. Install something like Thunderbird or Eudora that can import .pst files and then move

Re: g++ -g and included files

On May 14, 2009, at 5:45 AM, Jerry Davis wrote: > I have the following situation: > > I have a source file, which has a bunch of #includes which are .h > files of the > other classes used. I have full source. IOW, I can see in the > source/ directory > every .h and .C file of all the #include

Re: Looking for Laptop Suggestions

On May 12, 2009, at 10:03 AM, Mark Phillips wrote: > Thanks for all the advice! My take away so far: > 1. Buy a Mac - all problems solved Hardly. You just move on to the OpenOffice vs NeoOffice issue. ;-) -- Conscience is th

Re: Looking for Laptop Suggestions

On May 12, 2009, at 7:41 AM, Lisa Kachold wrote: > In a Word: Dell > Dell makes the best laptops available and support Linux. Dell used to make reliable computers. Hopefully they will again someday. Right now they don't. Presents reliability by brand

Jaunty Jackalope on VMware Fusion

Those of you who are trying Ubuntu 9.04, Jaunty Jackalope, in VMware fusion may have noticed that the mouse cursor won't move outside the VMware window even after you install the VMware tools. You have to use CMD+CNTL to free the mouse every time and this is a hassle. The solution is: sudo

Re: OT: What's the best antenna for digital TV?

On Apr 29, 2009, at 4:55 PM, Josef Lowder wrote: > What is the best antenna for good digital TV reception? > Is there any antenna set up that will make it possible > to receive over-the-air broadcast signals from the Prescott > channels (i.e. 7.1 I think) in the East Valley? Have you tried here?

Updating Ubuntu

It seems to take forever. It is much quicker just to download the .iso and install from scratch. --- Neither a man nor a crowd nor a nation can be trusted to act humanely or to think sanely under the influence of a great fear. -Bertrand Russell, philosopher, mathematician, author, Nobel laure

Re: ot: virus in MS (what to do)

On Feb 25, 2009, at 6:12 PM, mike havens wrote: > I am humbled! In case you didn't get an answer to your original question, I've had good luck with AVAST. -- The fundamental delusion of humanity is to suppose that I am here and you are out there -Yasutani Roshi, Zen master (1885-1973)

Re: Ha!

On Feb 8, 2009, at 6:19 AM, Jim March wrote: > The Linux flash player from Adobe is a notorious steaming pile of > crashing fail. It's *far* less stable or compatible than the Windows > or Mac versions. Some say it's because M$ demands it be that bad, > somehow :). Thanks Jim. That explains th

Re: Tuna's Command-Line Migration Adventure Episode 3: E-Mail!

On Feb 8, 2009, at 5:29 AM, Tuna wrote: > I want to switch to mutt. I really do. However, I am currently using > Thunderbird, which I configured to download messages and delete them > from the POP server. So it would be kind of inconvenient for me right > now, as I don't want to lose the over 900

Re: Ha!

On Feb 8, 2009, at 1:21 AM, stu w wrote: > http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20090208 I don't get it. --- Neither a man nor a crowd nor a nation can be trusted to act humanely or to think sanely under the influence of a great fear. -

Re: PDF is a standard?

On May 25, 2008, at 1:21 PM, der.hans wrote: > I disagree, especially since I was specifically asking if the format > is > now controlled by a standards body and its committees rather than > being > solely controlled by Adobe. This is confusing but I have seen blogs from prominent PDF deve

Re: PDF is a standard?

On May 24, 2008, at 2:36 PM, der.hans wrote: > > Is PDF a standard? I thought PDF was owned and run by Adobe, but > they were > allowing 3rd party implementation. Wikipedia says it's a standard: -- And those who were seen dancing were th

Re: Proprietary elegance good enough? (Was: Re: OT: notebook shopping)

On Apr 26, 2008, at 1:58 PM, Kurt Granroth wrote: > Chris Gehlker wrote: >> On Apr 25, 2008, at 10:36 PM, Kurt Granroth wrote: >>> But it [the iLife suite] does so in a completely and totally >>> locked down fashion. All files are sucked in, converted to the &

Re: Proprietary elegance good enough? (Was: Re: OT: notebook shopping)

On Apr 25, 2008, at 10:36 PM, Kurt Granroth wrote: > But it [the iLife suite] does so in a completely and totally locked > down fashion. All files are sucked in, converted to the iLife > formats, and good luck ever trying to get them out again. I don't understand what you mean here. I haven

Re: OT: notebook shopping

On Apr 24, 2008, at 5:05 PM, Donn wrote: > Thank you Austin. That was part of my point. OS X has ONE Price and > One version. They actually have the "Family Pack" as well. Five users for $200. And there are discounts at student stores and places like Amazon. Just picking a nit. -- In Americ

Re: Anti-virus for Linux - is it time? Will it ever be?

On Mar 7, 2008, at 9:40 PM, JT Moree wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Chris Gehlker wrote: >>> I don't run anti-virus on windows or linux because I'm very careful >>> about what services and code I run and keeping up to date

Re: Anti-virus for Linux - is it time? Will it ever be?

On Mar 7, 2008, at 9:06 AM, Craig White wrote: > perhaps you guys aren't discussing the same things. > > I would clearly have clamav on any server that handles incoming e- > mail. > > I wouldn't bother installing any version of clamav/clamd on a system > that wasn't handling e-mail, even it were

Re: Anti-virus for Linux - is it time? Will it ever be?

On Mar 7, 2008, at 8:24 AM, Mike Garfias wrote: > Huh? > > I've got 100+ servers that don't run any form of AV. Why in the world > would I run it when there is no vector for a virus to get onto a > system? "public facing?" > > > On Mar 7, 2008,

Re: Anti-virus for Linux - is it time? Will it ever be?

On Mar 6, 2008, at 8:59 PM, JT Moree wrote: > Anti-virus is ineffective. It deals with a symptom while ignoring the > real problem. That is: attack vectors on a system. > > By the time anti-virus does its job your system is already > compromised. > IMHO a compromised system is NEVER trustwort

Re: what's up with my clock?

On Mar 3, 2008, at 6:12 AM, Michael Havens wrote: > it always gives me the wrong time. the hour goes wrong. it is off by > five > hours this morning. > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] sudo tzselect > /usr/bin/tzselect: line 53: /usr/share/zoneinfo/iso3166.tab: No > such file or >

Re: chix finder

On Feb 26, 2008, at 7:32 AM, Geek Girl wrote: > Did I make a wrong choice is joining this group? > You know I was interested in getting involved in the community and > promoting > it through my corporation, but if this is the attitude shared I > think it > would be best to seek out the l33t i

Re: Dog Food

On Feb 4, 2008, at 1:41 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hey now, Craig! I'm just stuck using winblows temporarily because it > came with this laptop. My other machine has always run Slackware > since > I've owned it, but right now it's sitting idle as I use this all the > time. I'm sure a lot

Andersen wins in District Court

-- In America, anybody can be president. That's one of the risks you take. -Adlai Stevenson, statesman (1900-1965) --- PLUG-discuss mai

Re: A new wrinkle in the Howell case

On Jan 14, 2008, at 5:17 PM, eric© wrote: > Is it possible to get through this stuff without people bickering like > grade school children? I'm sitting here waiting for a "my dad can > beat up your dad" comment shortly... Good point. I'm deleting my draft response to Craig's post. I'll make

Re: A new wrinkle in the Howell case

On Jan 14, 2008, at 9:46 AM, Craig White wrote: > Aside from the implications in general, how does this apply to Howell? > > Your subject clearly states that this is a wrinkle in the Howell case? > > I fail to see the relevance but you are the attorney here. Please make > your case. I don't recal

Re: A new wrinkle in the Howell case

On Jan 14, 2008, at 7:59 AM, Craig White wrote: > On Mon, 2008-01-14 at 07:31 -0700, Chris Gehlker wrote: >> Apparently the RIAA tried to get a law through congress last year >> making it a infringement of copyright to simply have copies of >> copyrighted files in one'

A new wrinkle in the Howell case

Apparently the RIAA tried to get a law through congress last year making it a infringement of copyright to simply have copies of copyrighted files in one's shared folder.

Re: Question about Virtual Machine systems

On Jan 13, 2008, at 12:40 PM, Craig White wrote: > On Sun, 2008-01-13 at 12:21 -0700, Joseph Sinclair wrote: >> All, >> Knowing that some of you are far more experienced with running >> things in a VM than I am, I would like to know if any of you have >> ideas for the following scenario: >>

Re: while we are trashing the RIAA and its member corporations...

On Jan 12, 2008, at 5:34 PM, Craig White wrote: > might as well honor their excesses... > > http://www.alleyinsider.com/2008/01/emis-40-coke-and-hookers-budget.html You beat me to that post. I was going to say that this seems much more productive than supporting the RIAA. -- And those wh

Re: RIAA v Howell cleanup

On Jan 12, 2008, at 4:26 PM, Craig White wrote: > On Sat, 2008-01-12 at 14:47 -0700, Chris Gehlker wrote: > >> Please try to stop seeing everything through the filter of which side >> you think people are on. It leads you to silly conclusions such as >> that Fisher and t

Re: RIAA v Howell cleanup

On Jan 12, 2008, at 2:58 PM, Marvin O Fretwell wrote: > Why the RIAA's "new found" reticence to say copying your own music > is not a copyright violation? > Perhaps because their lawyers have recently advised them to quit > saying it; for some convoluted legal reason? That's what their spoke

Re: RIAA v Howell cleanup

On Jan 12, 2008, at 2:07 PM, Craig White wrote: > On Sat, 2008-01-12 at 12:37 -0700, Chris Gehlker wrote: >> On Jan 10, 2008, at 3:47 PM, Craig White wrote: >> >>> Washington Post retracted (this will make Chris happy) >>> http://www.washingtonpost.com/

Re: RIAA v Howell cleanup

On Jan 10, 2008, at 3:47 PM, Craig White wrote: > Washington Post retracted (this will make Chris happy) > http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/01/04/AR2008010403607_2.html Very happy! > > > Wired refutes retraction... > http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2008/01/riaa-still-th

Re: an example of an aggressive defense against RIAA claims

On Jan 7, 2008, at 12:37 PM, Craig White wrote: > so now they will drop the case because 'pursuing the case futher will > not be cost effective from a purely financial point of view' > > How can I think anything other than you flip your opinions around from > one message to the next. These were y

Re: an example of an aggressive defense against RIAA claims

On Jan 7, 2008, at 10:36 AM, Craig White wrote: > OK, accepting that, why on earth did you say that you expected them to > drop the Howell case? > > You seem to flip your opinions around from one post to the next. What I said was that unless they could prove he actually erased files from his d

Re: an example of an aggressive defense against RIAA claims

On Jan 7, 2008, at 9:56 AM, Craig White wrote: > The public relations aspect is clearly of lesser concern...look at > Thomas, a single mother. On a scale of public relations nightmares, > picking on old ladies, young children, young mothers with children are > the next least desirable from a publi

Re: an example of an aggressive defense against RIAA claims

On Jan 6, 2008, at 11:00 PM, Craig White wrote: > It's possible given that this case was > dropped and then refiled by RIAA that RIAA will drop it and possibly > have to cover the legal costs of Weed...that has happened several > times > so far and my reading of this is that is entirely possibl

Re: Sccts guy contradicts RIAA document

On Jan 6, 2008, at 10:27 PM, Craig White wrote: > It no longer matters what was in the Washington Post story. What is absurd is your contention that happened on January 3 can somehow render a falsehood printed on December 30th true. > > > or to use Rudy who articulates these things with a cl

Re: Sccts guy contradicts RIAA document

On Jan 6, 2008, at 7:35 PM, Craig White wrote: > The story wasn't what was in the pleadings, regardless of what Fisher > said. He got the story right but he is not, nor will he ever be an > intellectual property expert. No, he did not 'get the story right'. He said he was reporting on the plea

Re: Sccts guy contradicts RIAA document

On Jan 6, 2008, at 5:42 PM, Craig White wrote: > NPR could bill it however they wished. He was asked to defend his > article and that act doesn't change one from a reporter to an > advocate. It really does. If he were content to be a reporter, he wouldn't become say anything more than "I sta

Re: Sccts guy contradicts RIAA document

On Jan 6, 2008, at 3:34 PM, Craig White wrote: > Just to get last out the way first, he is still a journalist. His role > didn't change in the substantive way that you suggest and nothing in > the > definition you provided suggests otherwise. He wasn't reporting on NPR, he was advocating. It

Re: Microsoft Autopilot

On Jan 6, 2008, at 12:40 PM, Kevin Brown wrote: >> > > No offense, but would you please include something more than just a > link > so that list users have some idea of what it is they are going to see > when they follow the link... I'll try to

Re: Sccts guy contradicts RIAA document

On Jan 6, 2008, at 1:35 PM, der.hans wrote: > I disagree. I read the docuement from Atlantic the same as he does. I > think it's the document from Atlantic that's the falsehood. I'm confused. I don't any reference to the Atlantic in Fisher's WaPo article. Fisher provides no links but I think i

Re: Sccts guy contradicts RIAA document

On Jan 6, 2008, at 10:44 AM, Craig White wrote: > On Sat, 2008-01-05 at 22:27 -0700, Chris Gehlker wrote: > >> To understand the damage >> that Fisher has done us you have to put yourself in the frame of >> mind >> of a typical NPR user: fairly bright and cu

Re: Sccts guy contradicts RIAA document

On Jan 5, 2008, at 11:10 PM, der.hans wrote: > I do see your point that he wasn't covering the entire case. But, his > article was about "the industry is taking its argument against music > sharing one step further" not about all of the specifics of the cases > against Howell and Thomas. And he

Re: Sccts guy contradicts RIAA document

On Jan 5, 2008, at 7:40 PM, der.hans wrote: > Am 04. Jan, 2008 schwätzte Chris Gehlker so: > >> Your characterization of the plaintiff's position and Howell's is >> accurate as far as it goes but it still completely misses the point. >> Fisher concluded, in t

Microsoft Autopilot

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Re: Sccts guy contradicts RIAA document

On Jan 5, 2008, at 9:23 AM, Craig White wrote: not unlike the article that you gave us early on from cio magazine. But more to the point in addressing the failings of Fisher While I would agree that I wish Mark Fisher could have articulated the issues with greater precision, that seems to

Re: Sccts guy contradicts RIAA document

On Jan 4, 2008, at 9:34 PM, Craig White wrote: > What I would argue with is that you have re-phrased, recharacterized > the > authors statement which I have quoted to you twice and it's obvious > that > continually re-quoting his statement will not get it through your head > but specifically..

Re: Sccts guy contradicts RIAA document

On Jan 4, 2008, at 3:12 PM, Craig White wrote: > Mark Fisher's interpretation is what it is. The referenced page > however > is simply an advocacy of the plaintiff's position and the defendant's > position is clear, that those files were never in a shared folder that > was designated for sharin

Re: Boot Camp (was Re: Jan topics?)

On Jan 4, 2008, at 11:07 AM, Craig White wrote: > A bad move? That surely is one way of looking at it. If it weren't > Apple > doing it, some might think of it as extortion. Did they actually do something to make it stop working or did they just stop distributing it? Posts I have seen before

Re: Sccts guy contradicts RIAA document

On Jan 4, 2008, at 10:53 AM, Craig White wrote: > > On Fri, 2008-01-04 at 10:44 -0700, Chris Gehlker wrote: >> On Jan 4, 2008, at 8:48 AM, Technomage-hawke wrote: >> > >>> in any case, the ridiculousness of it all hasn't sunk in yet with >>> the

Re: Sccts guy contradicts RIAA document

On Jan 4, 2008, at 9:55 AM, Craig White wrote: > > On Fri, 2008-01-04 at 08:33 -0700, Chris Gehlker wrote: >> On Jan 4, 2008, at 8:04 AM, Craig White wrote: >> >>>> >>>> Who is this author you are talking about? >>> >>> 'T

Re: Sccts guy contradicts RIAA document

On Jan 4, 2008, at 8:48 AM, Technomage-hawke wrote: > On Friday 04 January 2008 08:14, Chris Gehlker wrote: >> >> There are also two iPods in my family with songs ripped from CDs. >> That's why I feel foolish that I initially believed the Washington >> Post s

Re: Sccts guy contradicts RIAA document

On Jan 4, 2008, at 8:04 AM, Craig White wrote: > On Fri, 2008-01-04 at 00:25 -0700, Chris Gehlker wrote: >> On Jan 3, 2008, at 10:34 PM, Craig White wrote: >> >>> On Thu, 2008-01-03 at 17:47 -0700, Chris Gehlker wrote: >>>> On Jan 3, 2008, at 2:01 PM, Craig Wh

Re: Sccts guy contradicts RIAA document

On Jan 4, 2008, at 3:16 AM, eric© wrote: > On Jan 4, 2008 12:25 AM, Chris Gehlker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> within my own household. So go ahead, Craig. Forward this post to any >> record company executive that you choose. We both know that they >> won'

Re: Sccts guy contradicts RIAA document

On Jan 3, 2008, at 10:34 PM, Craig White wrote: > On Thu, 2008-01-03 at 17:47 -0700, Chris Gehlker wrote: >> On Jan 3, 2008, at 2:01 PM, Craig White wrote: >> >>> But that's not the point I'm making in the column. What's new in the >>> Howell c

Re: Sccts guy contradicts RIAA document

On Jan 3, 2008, at 10:51 PM, Craig White wrote: > On Thu, 2008-01-03 at 17:34 -0700, Chris Gehlker wrote: >> On Jan 3, 2008, at 11:53 AM, Craig White wrote: >> >>> Again, I have to wonder why you are so eager to take the plaintiff's >>> side on these is

Re: Jan topics?

On Jan 3, 2008, at 4:27 PM, DarkElf109 wrote: > n the alternative platforms note, Mac users can use Fink [0] and > DarwinPorts [1] to get binary and/or compiled open source programs. If > there's interest, I could probably do a short demo on them at the > West side > meeting (no guarantees for

Re: Sccts guy contradicts RIAA document

On Jan 3, 2008, at 2:01 PM, Craig White wrote: > But that's not the point I'm making in the column. What's new in the > Howell case is the decision by lawyers for the recording industry to > argue that even a legally-obtained CD may not be transferred to an MP3 > file on your computer. That argum

Re: Sccts guy contradicts RIAA document

On Jan 3, 2008, at 11:53 AM, Craig White wrote: Again, I have to wonder why you are so eager to take the plaintiff's side on these issues. As I wonder why you are so eager to descend to the ad hominem attack. [sigh] On another list I got a bunch of "Why are you supporting Saddam Hussein?"

Re: Sccts guy contradicts RIAA document

On Jan 3, 2008, at 11:13 AM, keith smith wrote: > Seems to be something there. The funny part is this guy sound > indigent and they are going to throw tens or hundreds of thousands > at this suite to get nothing more than a judgment that will go unpaid. > > Should be an interesting case. Too

Re: Sccts guy contradicts RIAA document

On Jan 3, 2008, at 11:28 AM, Craig White wrote: > > On Thu, 2008-01-03 at 11:21 -0700, Chris Gehlker wrote: >> On Jan 3, 2008, at 10:48 AM, Craig White wrote: >> >>> 5 days after Washington Post published the story, the Arizona >>> Republic >>> fi

Re: Sccts guy contradicts RIAA document

On Jan 3, 2008, at 10:48 AM, Craig White wrote: > 5 days after Washington Post published the story, the Arizona Republic > finally figured out that there was a story here... Except that the story the Washington Post published was wrong, sensationalized, and deliberately elided part of a quote

Re: Sccts guy contradicts RIAA document

On Jan 3, 2008, at 12:43 AM, der.hans wrote: > The reason I mentioned it on list is because the guy being sued made > the > claim that he didn't intentionally share any music, which > contradicts the > document from the Atlantic's lawyer. > > The section C of the document from Atlantic's lawye

Re: Sccts guy contradicts RIAA document

On Jan 3, 2008, at 8:26 AM, Craig White wrote: > We have agenda driven media that goes far beyond driving eyeballs to > advertisers. Absolutely. Most of the MSM outlets are part of conglomerates that have much bigger issues than ad revenues. Hockenberry's post that is getting some attentio

Re: What the RIAA really said.

On Jan 2, 2008, at 1:46 PM, Craig White wrote: > I wholeheartedly expect that any listing or illustration of the 'kazaa > shared' directory presented by the investigator for the plaintiff was > not a direct representation of the defendant's computer but rather > something that could have only bee

Re: What the RIAA really said.

On Jan 2, 2008, at 1:08 PM, Patrick Fleming, EA wrote: > These screen shots are not of the individual's PC, they are of the > software used to "investigate" the supposed infringement. It similar > to > someone taking a screen shot of a web page and saying, "this is what > they are sharing". Yo

Re: What the RIAA really said.

On Jan 2, 2008, at 12:20 PM, Craig White wrote: > I would surmise (I didn't see the consultant's report - was it > Jacobson?) that he has only a listing of the 'virtual' folder I don't know if it was Jacobson but it's probably in the record somewhere. I don't claim to be an expert on Windows

Re: What the RIAA really said.

On Jan 2, 2008, at 11:32 AM, Craig White wrote: > except of course that it is disputed... You are absolutely correct. In fact I had read that and simply forgot. Subsequently I read this: "It is undisputed that Defendant possessed unauthorized copies of Plaintiffs’ copyrighted sound recordin

Re: What the RIAA really said.

On Jan 2, 2008, at 10:13 AM, Craig White wrote: > where on earth did you get the idea that the files actually were > physically moved? You are assuming facts that are not supported by the > evidence and even worse, you already know that the 'folders' that a > program considers accessible or in th

Re: Weird Ubuntu network icon problem

On Jan 2, 2008, at 10:15 AM, Craig White wrote: > sounds like it added another network adaptor and the original one is > still functional. Thanks. I'll pursue that. I'm curious now. -- The folly of mistaking a paradox for a discovery, a metaphor for a proof, a torrent of verbiage for a spring

Weird Ubuntu network icon problem

This morning Ubuntu said it wanted to update some stuff so I let it. I was having a conversation and didn't pay that much attention but I think it was a bunch of Samba stuff. When it installed the update it said it waned to reboot so I OKed that. After the reboot, the icon showing an inter

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