I got a new machine which (of course) has Windows pre-installed and
I'm not ready to dump it entirely just yet so in the meantime, I built
out a complete Arch Linux 64-bit system on a portable USB external
drive. I also used or tried to use grub to set it up to boot. During
the original settup se
Usually the drive must have more than one partition and grub/lilo on it to
fool the OS into treating it like a normal disk.
unetbootin works well to create such things:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/unetbootin/files/UNetbootin/494/unetbootin-linux-494/download
On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 03:23, Steve
I have an external drive that has the same issue. in my case there is
a small "firmware" that resides on the USB-PATA bridge that has about
3-400 MB of stuff on it and mounts as a CD. this definitely fouled all
my attempts at booting to the device.
On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 3:23 AM, Steve Holmes wr
That's rather annoying when some drive manufacturer forces us to leave
their junk on the drive when we wish to do otherwise with it.
Actually, my drive came out of an old laptop and I stuck it inside a
portable drive enclosure so I would think we should be able to boot
with it. I used grub to make
newer machines should be able to boot directly to USB hdd just fine...
just never have had a drive that really worked with that.
On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 9:24 AM, Steve Holmes wrote:
> That's rather annoying when some drive manufacturer forces us to leave
> their junk on the drive when we wish to
Around the Holidays it amazes me how many drives need swapping! - just
don't forget to image/ghost your Windows drive before putting your
favorite distro(s) on it - if the laptop ever needs service, putting
it back will save you a ton of grief.
Happy Holiday Everyone
-
Or better get.. get a newer and bigger drive for the laptop and put the
original on a shelf for such times :)
On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 11:24, Ed wrote:
> Around the Holidays it amazes me how many drives need swapping! - just
> don't forget to image/ghost your Windows drive before putting your
>
or for a Foss equivalent look at clonezilla (clonezilla.org) :-)
I like it better than ghost anyhow ;-)
On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 11:24 AM, Ed wrote:
> Around the Holidays it amazes me how many drives need swapping! - just
> don't forget to image/ghost your Windows drive before putting your
> fav
I've used clonezilla before but it has been awhile.. is it faster than just
using DD ?
On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 11:25, Stephen wrote:
> or for a Foss equivalent look at clonezilla (clonezilla.org) :-)
>
> I like it better than ghost anyhow ;-)
>
> On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 11:24 AM, Ed wrote:
>
it is a collection of tools wrapped around using DD so allot of extra
steps are no longer needed.
It is very handy
On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 11:28 AM, JD Austin wrote:
> I've used clonezilla before but it has been awhile.. is it faster than just
> using DD ?
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 11:25, St
From: JD Austin
> I've used clonezilla before but it has been awhile.. is it faster
> than just using dd ?
partimage/clonezilla are intelligent enough to look at the filesystem and only
copy the blocks that are actually in use. dd copies everything. So if the
NTFS/FAT/whatever disk is <= 95% fu
That answers my question; I was wondering about a good solution that I
could backup my windows stuff with. The HP software that comes with
the machine is so inaccessible to screen readers, I need another
solution for that task. I've heard people mention clonezilla;
definitely have to give that a
I will probably do that in the future. I got this one on a cheap
Black Friday special so isn't a bad machine but I don't wanna void the
warrentee by taring into it to change out the drive. That's why I was
messing about with this work-around.
As an update to my problem, I found out today that gr
If the drive is bootable, it will boot.
Check the bios to ensure you have allowed boot from bios, and use spare
systems before rebuilding your drive.
You should be able to fdisk -l /dev/sdN (or whatever it is) plugged in and
verify the boot. You should be able to verify your MBR and GRUB settin
The drive boots after all but only as far as grub. I found out
earlier today that the grub menu comes up but it fails to find the
file systems for booting the actual system. It looks like I will have
to rebuild the grub configuration or something. So yes, you're right;
the drive should boot and
I think it is having trouble with the order of hardware devices.
On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 11:10 PM, Steve Holmes wrote:
> The drive boots after all but only as far as grub. I found out
> earlier today that the grub menu comes up but it fails to find the
> file systems for booting the actual syste
Hi Steve!
On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 11:10 PM, Steve Holmes wrote:
> The drive boots after all but only as far as grub. I found out
> earlier today that the grub menu comes up but it fails to find the
> file systems for booting the actual system. It looks like I will have
> to rebuild the grub con
Yeah, I'm not sure what to do next. Next time I have someone around
to look at my screen, I'll have to get into the grub shell at boot
time and see if I can probe available devices and maybe manually force
the boot/kernel line and see where it blows. Originally the message
was an error code 15 or
It's the Zen of Troubleshooting! The error is the answer.
Basically, this means that you might verify that the files exist in the
paths setup in Grub?
I would just redo it all myself.
On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 6:00 PM, Steve Holmes wrote:
> Yeah, I'm not sure what to do next. Next time I have
Well, I have some more progress or updates on this problem. I still
can't get the thing to but from the USB external drive but here is
what I have so far. Sorry for the lengthy details.
1. I found out that when I start the HP laptop and use the boot menu
to choose the USB drive, grub picks up th
Steve,
I would start over with ext3, and this time I would recommend using UUID as
the drive identification method, as that method is resistant to the
reordering/remapping that you're experiencing (UUID was introduced exactly
because modern controllers may reorder drives on boot).
==Joseph++
OK, Thanks for the advice. Alas, that still didn't work. What is
still happening is the RAMFS boots fine and the final messages shown
before it barfs indicate that it found my internal haard drive and its
4 windows partitions. But then it shows /dev/sdb to be a mass storage
device but it never s
We have a joint install/hack fest at UAT next Saturday the 11th also?
On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 9:33 AM, Steve Holmes wrote:
> OK, Thanks for the advice. Alas, that still didn't work. What is
> still happening is the RAMFS boots fine and the final messages shown
> before it barfs indicate that
Lisa, the 11th IS the "this Saturday" he mentioned.
Steve, I cannot speak to your several attempts with Arch and other distros.
I can say that if you INSTALL ubuntu to a USB drive (not use a loader with
the .iso), then when you get to the end of the partitioning phase there is
an advanced button o
I'm pretty much doing all that though it is with Arch Linux. What
seems to be at the core of the matter is When I use the installation
media from CDROM, The internal hard disk, containing original windows
partitions, is /dev/sda and the attached USB drive is /dev/sdb; so far
so good.
The instalat
From: Steve Holmes
[USB drive, GRUB installed on its bootsector]
> Now when I boot the machine and choose USB from the BIOS boot menu,
> grub starts up but now the USB drive is (hd0) and the internal disk is
> (hd1). Now at this point, I get the boot menu with the two Arch
> linux entries and aft
On Mon, Dec 06, 2010 at 04:27:21PM -0700, Matt Graham wrote:
> Does your initrd/ramfs/whatever have the ehci_hcd, scsi_mod, sd_mod, usbcore,
> and usb_storage modules available in it? Are those modules loaded? If this
> thing was always going to run from a USB drive and I had control over the
> k
On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 3:55 PM, Steve Holmes wrote:
> I'm pretty much doing all that though it is with Arch Linux. What
> seems to be at the core of the matter is When I use the installation
> media from CDROM, The internal hard disk, containing original windows
> partitions, is /dev/sda and the
On Mon, Dec 06, 2010 at 07:26:33PM -0700, Dazed_75 wrote:
> Sure, that is why someone told you above to use the UUID to identify the
> drive instead of the changeagble /dev/?da type references. Here is a
> reference:
>https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingUUID
With this last test, I did use t
I have had mixed results with Unbooten (sp).
Puppy Liinux has its own USB bootable function once you are on its desktop.
Privatix does well making a bootable usb.
In the past IIRC it was really just a matter of finding a true .img
and doing a dd to that drive. No this is not the same as using an
GOOD NEWS!!!
I got it working. I can now boot on this external drive without
having to jump start from a live cd and chroot or any of that.
It seems that my mkinitcpio.conf did not include 'usb' as one of the
hooks for building the initial RAMFS image. I figured the RAMFS was
failing some how s
Fantastic! And where did you find this mkinitcpio.conf? Was that in Arch
Linux? Did you look in any others (sounds like not yet)? And what did you
have to do after adding the usb entry (like remaster an iso, or ...)?
Larry
On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 7:31 AM, Steve Holmes wrote:
> GOOD NEWS!!!
>
In Arch linux, that conf file is found in /etc so /etc/mkinitcpio.conf
should do it. I just inserted usb in the list of hook entries just
following the autodetect item. You should probably run mkinitcpio but
I didn't know the exact parameters I might need so what I did as a
lazy Arch Linux user
Cool. I never had a problem making a bootable installed on USB ubuntu. But
I checked for that file anyway and did not find one which is why I asked.
On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 8:15 PM, Steve Holmes wrote:
> In Arch linux, that conf file is found in /etc so /etc/mkinitcpio.conf
> should do it. I
> 2. Re: computer recycling (Steve Holmes)
> 3. Re: Booting from a USB Drive (Steve Holmes)
> 4. Re: Booting from a USB Drive (Dazed_75)
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Beginners_Guide#.2Fetc.2Fmkinitcpio.conf
This is where reading RTF(ine)M comes in on an intermediae to ad
If its a Sandisk Cruzer there is a utility to remove that infernal
"CD" mount. check here:
http://www.google.com/search?q=sandisk+cruzer+u3+removal
http://u3.sandisk.com/launchpadremoval.htm
and possibly (possibly) helpful:
http://u3-tool.sourceforge.net/
On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 7:25 AM, Step
its an external usb to 2.5" pata drive enclosure and its a chip built
into the usb-sata bridge.
most annoying.
On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 11:45 PM, Ben Trussell wrote:
> If its a Sandisk Cruzer there is a utility to remove that infernal
> "CD" mount. check here:
>
> http://www.google.com/search?q=
On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 9:52 PM, Steve Holmes wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 06, 2010 at 07:26:33PM -0700, Dazed_75 wrote:
> > Sure, that is why someone told you above to use the UUID to identify the
> > drive instead of the changeagble /dev/?da type references. Here is a
> > reference:
> >https://help.
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