Re: Help or arrogance (Was: Re: How to overcome a boot-up endless loop?)

2009-08-31 Thread Lisa Kachold
I believe I have read your excellent posts. Blunt is good! On 8/31/09, Technomage technomage.ha...@gmail.com wrote: Lisa Kachold wrote: Context is lost in email; often the process of tracking through incorrect assumptions via limited information provided in PLUG list email requires

Re: How to overcome a boot-up endless loop?

2009-08-29 Thread Josef Lowder
Tried both 'sleep 1' and booting with acpi=off. Neither worked. Still have the same endless error displayed. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings:

Re: How to overcome a boot-up endless loop?

2009-08-29 Thread mike havens
what would happen if he just put a comment character on the line On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 11:09 PM, Josef Lowder j...@actionline.com wrote: Tried both 'sleep 1' and booting with acpi=off. Neither worked. Still have the same endless error displayed.

Re: How to overcome a boot-up endless loop?

2009-08-29 Thread Jason Spatafore
I doubt it is an application problem. The system worked before and he didn't mention he had a recent update take place. My suspicion is that the partitions on his disk got corrupted. Perhaps you can grab a bootable Linux and double check your partition tables then run a fsck on the partition

Re: How to overcome a boot-up endless loop?

2009-08-29 Thread Eric Shubert
Josef Lowder wrote: Tried both 'sleep 1' and booting with acpi=off. Neither worked. Still have the same endless error displayed. What stage of booting does this happen in? If it's during the initrd stage (before the main system is started), you'll need to build a new initrd in order for the

Re: How to overcome a boot-up endless loop?

2009-08-28 Thread Josef Lowder
A few days ago, I posted an inquiry on the subject issue, and the problem is still unresolved. Following is the error message that I see rapidly repeated on the screen non-stop until I totally power-off the computer: /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit: line 1333: /bin/usleep: Input Output error Stephen wrote:

Re: How to overcome a boot-up endless loop?

2009-08-28 Thread Jon M. Hanson
Try changing the line to sleep 1. They way the line is now it's trying to wait for 0.1 seconds. Yes, it'll be waiting 10 times as long but maybe the problem is something associated with a timer interrupt that's causing usleep to fail. By changing it to sleep it should use a less

Re: How to overcome a boot-up endless loop?

2009-08-28 Thread Eric Shubert
Josef Lowder wrote: A few days ago, I posted an inquiry on the subject issue, and the problem is still unresolved. Following is the error message that I see rapidly repeated on the screen non-stop until I totally power-off the computer: /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit: line 1333: /bin/usleep: Input

Re: How to overcome a boot-up endless loop?

2009-08-28 Thread Eric Shubert
Josef Lowder wrote: Tried changing usleep from 10 to 1 and that had no effect. Still this continuously on the screen until I have to pull the power to stop it. /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit: line 1333: /bin/usleep: Input Output error /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit: line 1333: /bin/usleep: Input Output

Re: How to overcome a boot-up endless loop?

2009-08-28 Thread Jason Spatafore
Per this link: http://fixunix.com/mandriva/250704-boot-i-get-bin-usleep-input-output-error.html Turn acpi off in boot options. (On booting, type acpi=off into the boot options.) Does that do it? On Fri, 2009-08-28 at 17:01 -0700, Eric Shubert wrote: Josef Lowder wrote: Tried changing

How to overcome a boot-up endless loop?

2009-08-27 Thread Josef Lowder
Recently, I found a way to put my IBM Thinkpad T40 running PCLinuxOS to sleep rather than turning it off by using: apm -s This has worked well for a couple of months with instant restarts whenever I opened the lid ... until yesterday. Something went amiss, and when I tried to restart, I saw

Re: How to overcome a boot-up endless loop?

2009-08-27 Thread Eric Shubert
Josef Lowder wrote: Recently, I found a way to put my IBM Thinkpad T40 running PCLinuxOS to sleep rather than turning it off by using: apm -s This has worked well for a couple of months with instant restarts whenever I opened the lid ... until yesterday. Something went amiss, and when I

Re: How to overcome a boot-up endless loop?

2009-08-27 Thread Alex Dean
On Aug 27, 2009, at 12:43 PM, Josef Lowder wrote: Recently, I found a way to put my IBM Thinkpad T40 running PCLinuxOS to sleep rather than turning it off by using: apm -s This has worked well for a couple of months with instant restarts whenever I opened the lid ... until yesterday.

Re: How to overcome a boot-up endless loop?

2009-08-27 Thread Josef Lowder
Recently, I found a way to put my IBM Thinkpad T40 running PCLinuxOS to sleep rather than turning it off by using: apm -s This has worked well for a couple of months with instant restarts whenever I opened the lid ... until yesterday. Something went amiss, and when I tried to restart, I saw

Re: How to overcome a boot-up endless loop?

2009-08-27 Thread Dazed_75
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 10:43 AM, Josef Lowder j...@actionline.com wrote: Recently, I found a way to put my IBM Thinkpad T40 running PCLinuxOS to sleep rather than turning it off by using: apm -s This has worked well for a couple of months with instant restarts whenever I opened the lid ...

Re: How to overcome a boot-up endless loop?

2009-08-27 Thread Michael Butash
Sounds like there's some kind of corruption in the bios causing apm/acpi to freak out the kernel. It seems like you're getting an unchecked error that's causing the init to hang, probably because the hardware is being weird. Try clearing the cmos on the board if you can, or at least remove the

Re: How to overcome a boot-up endless loop?

2009-08-27 Thread Matt Graham
From: Josef Lowder j...@actionline.com Recently, I found a way to put my IBM Thinkpad T40 running PCLinuxOS to sleep rather than turning it off by using: apm -s APM has been deprecated for years and years. I'm surprised that worked at all. You're supposed to do echo mem /sys/power/state

Re: How to overcome a boot-up endless loop?

2009-08-27 Thread Josef Lowder
In response to the subject problem, someone wrote: Buy a Mac? ;) That is obviously not helpful. I did buy a macbook 15 a few weeks ago and found it to be weird and totally unsatisfactory for many, many reasons ... beyond its over-priced, under-valued, worse than M$ proprietary-ness. So after a

Re: How to overcome a boot-up endless loop?

2009-08-27 Thread Alex Dean
On Aug 27, 2009, at 1:49 PM, Josef Lowder wrote: In response to the subject problem, someone wrote: Buy a Mac? ;) That is obviously not helpful. Of course not. It's a joke. I followed your thread about your Mac problems. No offense intended. PGP.sig Description: This is a digitally

Re: How to overcome a boot-up endless loop?

2009-08-27 Thread mike havens
I think PLUG is an anomaly. It seems most people display snippety arrogance rather than help. On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 11:49 AM, Josef Lowder j...@actionline.com wrote: In response to the subject problem, someone wrote: Buy a Mac? ;) That is obviously not helpful. I did buy a macbook 15 a

Help or arrogance (Was: Re: How to overcome a boot-up endless loop?)

2009-08-27 Thread Alan Dayley
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 3:56 PM, mike havensbmi...@gmail.com wrote: I think PLUG is an anomaly. It seems most people display snippety arrogance rather than help. I strongly disagree. My experience with PLUG since spring 2000 is that it is one of the most helpful and well behaved groups I have

Re: Help or arrogance (Was: Re: How to overcome a boot-up endless loop?)

2009-08-27 Thread Lisa Kachold
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 4:02 PM, Alan Dayleyala...@consultpros.com wrote: On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 3:56 PM, mike havensbmi...@gmail.com wrote: I think PLUG is an anomaly. It seems most people display snippety arrogance rather than help. Context is lost in email; often the process of tracking

Re: Help or arrogance (Was: Re: How to overcome a boot-up endless loop?)

2009-08-27 Thread mike havens
Yes I meant that PLUG is helpful. On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 4:15 PM, Eric Cope eric.c...@gmail.com wrote: I thought that is what Mike was saying. The world is snippy. Plug is the anomaly - the anomaly being helpful folks. Perhaps Mike should clarify before this flame war burns down the

Re: Help or arrogance (Was: Re: How to overcome a boot-up endless loop?)

2009-08-27 Thread Alan Dayley
A most excellent point, Eric! I apologize, Mike, if I misinterpreted your statement. I would agree that people on the whole are snippy, if for no other reason than they have things to do. PLUG is different, the anomaly, based on that premise. Alan On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 4:15 PM, Eric

Re: Help or arrogance (Was: Re: How to overcome a boot-up endless loop?)

2009-08-27 Thread mike havens
good! Now that it is settled back to the original question On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 4:30 PM, Alan Dayley ala...@consultpros.com wrote: A most excellent point, Eric! I apologize, Mike, if I misinterpreted your statement. I would agree that people on the whole are snippy, if for no other

Re: Help or arrogance (Was: Re: How to overcome a boot-up endless loop?)

2009-08-27 Thread Stephen
Hit with hammer? *ducks* one of the best things suggested so far is to find the file being refrenced and what the heck line 1333? is. On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 4:59 PM, mike havensbmi...@gmail.com wrote: good! Now that it is settled back to the original question On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at

Re: Help or arrogance (Was: Re: How to overcome a boot-up endless loop?)

2009-08-27 Thread wayne
Over a couple of years, I too have at times felt an aire of superiority here. They I realized 2 things: A: I nearly ALWAYS get MULTIPLE good answers B: At least in my case, they ARE superior. If (I) were in that category, I'd not NEED help, but GIVE it too. THANKS PLUG :-)