Re: ****Re: KDE 4 and Kubuntu?

2008-08-28 Thread Trent Shipley
On Tuesday 2008-08-26, Craig White wrote: On Tue, 2008-08-26 at 18:07 -0700, Trent Shipley wrote: On Monday 2008-08-25, Craig White wrote: On Mon, 2008-08-25 at 16:58 -0700, Trent Shipley wrote: I too prefer KDE over Gnome. I've done fine with Kubuntu with some caveats. --I

Re: KDE 4 and Kubuntu?

2008-08-26 Thread Stephen P Rufle
I met the people behind zareason at lindependence in CA, and they are quality people for Linux. Ubuntu is their preferred distro and they seem to feed back into the community. I originally heard about them when I was looking for a someone to sell me a MythTV turnkey setup. Not sure if they still

Re: KDE 4 and Kubuntu?

2008-08-26 Thread Dan Lund
Interesting, it's good to hear someone who's dealt with them. I just thought it was an interesting advertisement. My thing is, if it runs Ubuntu then there's a pretty good chance I could blast the drive and toss Slackware/Debian/Gentoo/CentOS/insert other distribution on to suit my tastes...

Re: KDE 4 and Kubuntu?

2008-08-26 Thread Joshua Zeidner
Stephen, Im not knocking them personally. I find it commendable that they plainly state their return policy, which unfortunately many vendors like them do not. There are some 'macro' problems with these kind of vendors which makes it very hard for them to compete against the likes of

Re: KDE 4 and Kubuntu?

2008-08-26 Thread Dan Lund
I honestly don't think a $299 straight-up system is ever competing with Dell since they are geared towards people who don't want to touch the insides of the their computer. Thanks, Dan Lund It is necessary for him who lays out a state and arranges laws for it to presuppose that all men are evil

Re: KDE 4 and Kubuntu?

2008-08-26 Thread Craig White
On Tue, 2008-08-26 at 14:09 -0700, Joshua Zeidner wrote: Stephen, Im not knocking them personally. I find it commendable that they plainly state their return policy, which unfortunately many vendors like them do not. I didn't think 15% restock fee was out of line at all.

Re: KDE 4 and Kubuntu?

2008-08-26 Thread Joshua Zeidner
On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 2:38 PM, Craig White [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2008-08-26 at 14:09 -0700, Joshua Zeidner wrote: Stephen, Im not knocking them personally. I find it commendable that they plainly state their return policy, which unfortunately many vendors like them

Re: KDE 4 and Kubuntu?

2008-08-26 Thread Dan Lund
It boils down to being unfamiliar with Linux in this position, which means you should buy a Windows machine with those questions. Thanks, Dan Lund It is necessary for him who lays out a state and arranges laws for it to presuppose that all men are evil and that they are always going to act

Re: KDE 4 and Kubuntu?

2008-08-26 Thread Trent Shipley
I thought the goal was free software for the masses. On Tuesday 2008-08-26, Dan Lund wrote: It boils down to being unfamiliar with Linux in this position, which means you should buy a Windows machine with those questions. Thanks, Dan Lund It is necessary for him who lays out a state and

Re: KDE 4 and Kubuntu?

2008-08-26 Thread Craig White
On Tue, 2008-08-26 at 14:53 -0700, Joshua Zeidner wrote: On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 2:38 PM, Craig White [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2008-08-26 at 14:09 -0700, Joshua Zeidner wrote: Stephen, Im not knocking them personally. I find it

Re: KDE 4 and Kubuntu?

2008-08-26 Thread Trent Shipley
On Monday 2008-08-25, Craig White wrote: On Mon, 2008-08-25 at 16:58 -0700, Trent Shipley wrote: I too prefer KDE over Gnome. I've done fine with Kubuntu with some caveats. --I have to alter the GRUB instruction file to get the @#$% kernel to load on the Dell motherboard. This is

Re: ****Re: KDE 4 and Kubuntu?

2008-08-26 Thread Craig White
On Tue, 2008-08-26 at 18:07 -0700, Trent Shipley wrote: On Monday 2008-08-25, Craig White wrote: On Mon, 2008-08-25 at 16:58 -0700, Trent Shipley wrote: I too prefer KDE over Gnome. I've done fine with Kubuntu with some caveats. --I have to alter the GRUB instruction file to get

Re: KDE 4 and Kubuntu?

2008-08-25 Thread John
and the amount of packages available. --- On Sun, 8/24/08, Alan Dayley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Alan Dayley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: KDE 4 and Kubuntu? To: Main PLUG discussion list plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us Date: Sunday, August 24, 2008, 11:08 PM Novell has re-upped

Re: KDE 4 and Kubuntu?

2008-08-25 Thread Dan Lund
easy to install KDE 3.5.9 which I did and I'm now running. I, too, use Ubuntu because of the support and the amount of packages available. --- On Sun, 8/24/08, Alan Dayley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Alan Dayley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: KDE 4 and Kubuntu? To: Main PLUG discussion

Re: KDE 4 and Kubuntu?

2008-08-25 Thread Trent Shipley
and Linux Firewalls. - Original Message From: Alan Dayley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Main PLUG discussion list plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2008 9:08:00 PM Subject: KDE 4 and Kubuntu? Novell has re-upped with Microsoft, including the continuation

Re: KDE 4 and Kubuntu?

2008-08-25 Thread Craig White
On Mon, 2008-08-25 at 16:42 -0700, Dan Lund wrote: if I may be so ignorant to ask, what is the plus side versus RHEL/CentOS? RHEL describes itself as Enterprise suitable Linux which is tested and supported and sold as a computer entitlement to installation, updates and SLA (service level

Re: KDE 4 and Kubuntu?

2008-08-25 Thread Dan Lund
I meant between Ubuntu and RHEL/CentOS. The only reason I put RHEL and CentOS together is because CentOS is pretty much RHEL without the name breaking copyrights. Thanks, Dan Lund It is necessary for him who lays out a state and arranges laws for it to presuppose that all men are evil and that

Re: KDE 4 and Kubuntu?

2008-08-25 Thread Bill Lindley
Dan Lund wrote: what is the plus side versus RHEL/CentOS? Just one example -- (K)Ubuntu comes with Gimp 2.4 ... the latest CentOS still has Gimp 2.2 ... and similarly with many packages. CentOS is wonderful for a server but less than optimal if you want to have the latest of everything on

Re: KDE 4 and Kubuntu?

2008-08-25 Thread John
found it complicated as I was trying to make it harder than it was. --- On Mon, 8/25/08, Trent Shipley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Trent Shipley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: KDE 4 and Kubuntu? To: Main PLUG discussion list plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us Date: Monday, August 25

Re: KDE 4 and Kubuntu?

2008-08-25 Thread Craig White
On Mon, 2008-08-25 at 17:16 -0700, Bill Lindley wrote: Dan Lund wrote: what is the plus side versus RHEL/CentOS? Just one example -- (K)Ubuntu comes with Gimp 2.4 ... the latest CentOS still has Gimp 2.2 ... and similarly with many packages. CentOS is wonderful for a server but

Re: KDE 4 and Kubuntu?

2008-08-25 Thread Dan Lund
Pretty much if RHEL does it, CentOS does it, so hardware compatibility and service level is equal. Okay, so Ubuntu sounds like it was started as a desktop distribution geared towards eye candy. Thanks for sharing, I appreciate it. Thanks, Dan Lund It is necessary for him who lays out a state and

Re: KDE 4 and Kubuntu?

2008-08-25 Thread Ted Gould
Dan Lund wrote: Pretty much if RHEL does it, CentOS does it, so hardware compatibility and service level is equal. Okay, so Ubuntu sounds like it was started as a desktop distribution geared towards eye candy. Thanks for sharing, I appreciate it. I would say it a little differently.

Re: KDE 4 and Kubuntu?

2008-08-25 Thread Dan Lund
OH wow, a totally different world for me, then... Though it's a good thing they've gone down that road. I've learned something new today, I feel smart :) Thanks, Dan Lund It is necessary for him who lays out a state and arranges laws for it to presuppose that all men are evil and that they are

Re: KDE 4 and Kubuntu?

2008-08-25 Thread Dan Lund
And on that road, I figure I'll share something I ran across in my google advertisements which caught my eye. A $299 Ubuntu computer... 2ghz cpu, 1gb ram, 160gb sata drive, nvidia 6100 video card, etc.. figured I'd share. http://www.zareason.com/shop/product.php?productid=16183 Thanks, Dan Lund

Re: KDE 4 and Kubuntu?

2008-08-25 Thread Joshua Zeidner
Buying from these small dealers can be a total nightmare. I took a look at their return policy: If you get it and decide that it's just too different from Windows or Mac for your liking (or for any reason) feel free to return it within 30 days for a refund. Note that there is a 15%

KDE 4 and Kubuntu?

2008-08-24 Thread Alan Dayley
strong support, good reputation and my preference for KDE. I downloaded the community supported version of 8.04 that has KDE 4 as the default desktop. I'm curious as to it's stability. If you have experience with KDE 4, especially on Kubuntu, please share with all of us. Has it been stable

Re: KDE 4 and Kubuntu?

2008-08-24 Thread Joshua Zeidner
experience with KDE 4, especially on Kubuntu, please share with all of us. Has it been stable? Is it resource hungry? Any other gotchas? Did you wish to go back to KDE 3.x? Why or why not? I started with Kubuntu, and moved to Ubuntu. There are far more Ubuntu users and the packages, etc

Re: KDE 4 and Kubuntu?

2008-08-24 Thread Craig White
aboard! I downloaded the community supported version of 8.04 that has KDE 4 as the default desktop. I'm curious as to it's stability. If you have experience with KDE 4, especially on Kubuntu, please share with all of us. Has