Re: OT (slightly): SSL Requirement

2010-08-16 Thread R P Herrold
On Mon, 16 Aug 2010, Shawn Badger wrote: Also, some SSL providers allow for wild card certs as well, *.domain.com, that may also work for you, but they are expensive from what I heard. less that $200 per year from almost any 'in the chain' CA -- dunno if that is considered high or low. If yo

Re: OT (slightly): SSL Requirement

2010-08-16 Thread Shawn Badger
Most of the load balancers I have seen will either terminate the SSL connection at the load balancer or simply just look at the header and forward it appropriately. If you need SSL form the load balancer to the backend server you can use self signed certs If you can't break the SSL until it gets to

Re: OT (slightly): SSL Requirement

2010-08-15 Thread Lisa Kachold
On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 12:25 PM, R P Herrold wrote: > On Sun, 15 Aug 2010, Lisa Kachold wrote: > > On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 11:50 PM, Bryan O'Neal < >> bryan.on...@theonealandassociates.com> wrote: >> >> So you do name based virtual hosts with SSL and without SNI? I would >>> love to see your c

Re: OT (slightly): SSL Requirement

2010-08-15 Thread R P Herrold
On Sun, 15 Aug 2010, Lisa Kachold wrote: On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 11:50 PM, Bryan O'Neal < bryan.on...@theonealandassociates.com> wrote: So you do name based virtual hosts with SSL and without SNI? I would love to see your config files! - As always you teach us lowly mortals so much ;) Which

Re: OT (slightly): SSL Requirement

2010-08-15 Thread Lisa Kachold
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 11:50 PM, Bryan O'Neal < bryan.on...@theonealandassociates.com> wrote: > So you do name based virtual hosts with SSL and without SNI? I would > love to see your config files! > - As always you teach us lowly mortals so much ;) > Hey, I just bungle along too. Not sure wha

Re: OT (slightly): SSL Requirement

2010-08-13 Thread Bryan O'Neal
So you do name based virtual hosts with SSL and without SNI? I would love to see your config files! - As always you teach us lowly mortals so much ;) On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 11:38 PM, Lisa Kachold wrote: > I have never heard so much various misinformation in my life! > > On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 9

Re: OT (slightly): SSL Requirement

2010-08-13 Thread Lisa Kachold
I have never heard so much various misinformation in my life! On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 9:49 PM, Eric Shubert wrote: > Thanks Russ. You're once again a great sanity check. :) > -- > -Eric 'shubes' > > > R P Herrold wrote: > >> On Fri, 13 Aug 2010, Eric Shubert wrote: >> >> I don't necessarily bel

Re: OT (slightly): SSL Requirement

2010-08-13 Thread Eric Shubert
Thanks Russ. You're once again a great sanity check. :) -- -Eric 'shubes' R P Herrold wrote: On Fri, 13 Aug 2010, Eric Shubert wrote: I don't necessarily believe everything I see, and would like to check on something I read. Is the following statement true or false? "SSL requires a distinct

OT (slightly): SSL Requirement

2010-08-13 Thread R P Herrold
On Fri, 13 Aug 2010, Eric Shubert wrote: I don't necessarily believe everything I see, and would like to check on something I read. Is the following statement true or false? "SSL requires a distinct outbound IP for every distinct certificate (different domain name)." Clearly technically not

Re: OT (slightly): SSL Requirement

2010-08-13 Thread Eric Shubert
Thanks for the replies, Jason and Bryan. I particularly like Bryan's #3. I think it's interesting that you both addressed a web (https) context. SSL is used with email protocols as well (imaps, pop3s), although smtps is deprecated and TLS is favored these days (for good reasons). Perhaps the

Re: OT (slightly): SSL Requirement

2010-08-13 Thread Bryan O'Neal
Yes and no Ok - here is the quick break down - Authentication and verification happen at the same time - For the most part the web is IP based - Thus if I am looking for Jack @ 129.81.56.31 and Jilly @ 129.81.56.31 your going to confuse the hell out of the web server that has a cert for Bob. Sol

Re: OT (slightly): SSL Requirement

2010-08-13 Thread Jason Holtzapple
On 08/13/2010 01:51 PM, Eric Shubert wrote: > Is the following statement true or false? > > "SSL requires a distinct outbound IP for every distinct certificate > (different domain name)." I believe this is still true for SSL. With TLS, there is an extension to include the FQDN in the request. I a

OT (slightly): SSL Requirement

2010-08-13 Thread Eric Shubert
I don't necessarily believe everything I see, and would like to check on something I read. Is the following statement true or false? "SSL requires a distinct outbound IP for every distinct certificate (different domain name)." My understanding is that multiple hosts with distinct certificates