On Thu, 2011-12-01 at 15:38 -0700, Technomage Hawke wrote:
I tried 11.10 on a default installation. the unity interface
sux so bad that accessibility for it is a major lesson in futility.
Sorry, late with the reply. Here is the a11y work that is going on in
Unity this cycle:
what the hell are they doing releasing an incomplete product instead of
making it an RC?
On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 2:16 AM, Ted Gould t...@gould.cx wrote:
On Thu, 2011-12-01 at 15:38 -0700, Technomage Hawke wrote:
I tried 11.10 on a default installation. the unity interface
sux so bad that
On Tue, 2012-01-03 at 02:22 +, Michael Havens wrote:
what the hell are they doing releasing an incomplete product instead
of making it an RC?
I'm not sure what you mean. If you're saying that that a11y is required
for any product to be complete, there's a long list of you products you
use
I will have to do that. last time I tried to use unity, I couldn't get even a
run program dialog box using keyboard only. that is definitely not good when
one has to start orca before doing anything else.
-eric
On Jan 2, 2012, at 7:16 PM, Ted Gould wrote:
On Thu, 2011-12-01 at 15:38 -0700,
I just started using 11.10 and Unity and the only thing I find annoying is
hiding the File, Edit, etc menu and minimize, close buttons until you hover
over themand that I needed to know ctrl-alt-t opens a terminal...
On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 12:49 AM, Michael Butash mich...@butash.net wrote:
Agreed - that was one of the first things I killed:
sudo apt-get remove appmenu-gtk3 appmenu-gtk appmenu-qt
Just reverse that to put it back if you really miss the stupid mac-like
behavior. Biggest reason for me to be rid of it is I can't spawn unity
menus on each framebuffer set, so nothing
On Thu, 2011-12-01 at 12:12 -0700, Michael Butash wrote:
Agreed - that was one of the first things I killed:
sudo apt-get remove appmenu-gtk3 appmenu-gtk appmenu-qt
Just reverse that to put it back if you really miss the stupid mac-like
behavior. Biggest reason for me to be rid of it is
On Thu, 2011-12-01 at 12:12 -0700, Michael Butash wrote:
Biggest reason for me to be rid of it is I can't spawn unity
menus on each framebuffer set, so nothing on my second monitor set had
menus... Brilliant!
Yup, that sucks. It's on the list of things to fix as part of the
multimonitor
On Thu, 2011-12-01 at 12:36 -0700, Kevin Fries wrote:
Canonical started with Gnome3, and got upset about Gnome-Shell, so
decided to write their own to fix what they perceived as a problem.
Just to clear up some factual inaccuracies here. What is now Unity
started as Netbook Launcher and
If you look at the general pattern of linux-based netbook's, I think
they were somewhat ill-received because they tried the captive
portal/single-pane approach. I bought an Asus EEEBox to use as a
portable server, but I played with the interface before nuking it. It
was horribly
lol
/me pounds cane on the floor and looks for dentures
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I tried 11.10 on a default installation. the unity interface sux so bad that
accessibility for it is a major lesson in futility. Opensuse isn't far behind
it either. I fought all day with OpenSuse to no avail. no proper accessibility
in gnome 3, kde is worthless and don't even ask about unity.
http://royal.pingdom.com/2011/11/23/ubuntu-linux-losing-popularity-fast-new-unity-interface-to-blame/
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it was a killer for me really.
They did a number of things nicely, but i would rather use windows
over having to deal with unity.
On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 10:22 AM, Eric Shubert e...@shubes.net wrote:
I have been a huge Ubuntu advocate until Unity. I can't stand it for a
number of reasons. My laptops are both System76 machines, and thus run
Ubuntu. I have not changed from the core OS installed, but did install
Gnome Shell to prevent giving up all together. On my home desktop, it
is in the
I'm using Ubuntu LTS (10.4) on my workstation. That's due to be upgraded
with 12.4, at which time I'll need to make a decision. I'll evaluate
that version of Unity, but expect I might be going with GUbuntu, or else
go back to Fedora. I really don't want to be upgrading my workstation
every 6
On Wed, 2011-11-30 at 11:20 -0700, Eric Shubert wrote:
I'm using Ubuntu LTS (10.4) on my workstation. That's due to be upgraded
with 12.4, at which time I'll need to make a decision. I'll evaluate
that version of Unity, but expect I might be going with GUbuntu, or else
go back to Fedora. I
I've used every version of ubuntu since 6.04 on the desktop (and
extensive server) full-time, and while it's always been a bit cranky, it
was always the most together and solid linux. Packaging was simply
never a problem, nor were dependencies (ahem, redhat and spawn).
It became quite
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Subject: Re: Ubuntu Linux losing popularity fast. New Unity interface to
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On 11/30/2011 05:05 PM, Michael Butash wrote:
I've used every version of ubuntu since 6.04 on the desktop (and
extensive server) full-time, and while it's always been a bit cranky, it
was always the most together and solid linux. Packaging was simply never
a problem, nor were dependencies (ahem,
Correct, though those came long after it'd already nauseated me the
first time. When I needed to compile everything I needed anyways, slack
was a much better option - in 1999.
Fast forward to 2007, the last time I purposely had to deal with RHEL,
my experiences were not all that dissimilar.
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