Wubi

2008-11-02 Thread Joshua Zeidner
Anyone here try out Wubi? http://wubi-installer.org/ -jmz --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug

Re: Wubi

2008-11-02 Thread Dan Lund
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Re: Wubi

2008-11-02 Thread Joshua Zeidner
well, I've got a laptop with ... ugh, Vista on it and I want to set up Ubuntu without too much hassle. my fear is that Wubi will mess up my boot sector. -jmz On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 11:43 PM, Dan Lund <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I mean this with all seriousness and not as a

Re: Wubi

2008-11-02 Thread Dan Lund
Use the Live CD as the install media instead, that's my suggestion. It does give the option of resizing the partitions during the install. That's why I was questioning why even use a windows version installer. Only reason I can think of is if you just don't want to burn a CD. Thanks, Dan Lund To

Re: Wubi

2008-11-02 Thread Judd Pickell
For some reason it wouldn't repartition the drive on a Dell E1505 laptop. I used Acronis Disk Director and resized it manually. Then Intrepid (Ubuntu) installed without issue. Just pointing out that it doesn't always work from the live cd. Sincerely, Judd Pickell On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 12:15 AM,

Re: Wubi

2008-11-02 Thread der.hans
Am 02. Nov, 2008 schwätzte Joshua Zeidner so: well, I've got a laptop with ... ugh, Vista on it and I want to set up Ubuntu without too much hassle. my fear is that Wubi will mess up my boot sector. Use a live CD to dd the boot sector to a file, then put it back if it the install

Re: Wubi

2008-11-03 Thread Stephen
Wubi wrks great, but if you are useing raid that ubuntu doesnt know what to do with it will break. in single drive scenarios its fine. no need to fidgit with partitions as its becomes a file, similar to a virtual machine image within the NTFS structure, and then you have a specific share that is

RE: Wubi

2008-11-03 Thread Lisa Kachold
Yes, There are quite a few similar experiences with Wubi failures on the Ubuntu forums. http://wapedia.mobi/en/Obnosis | http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Citations:obnosis | Obnosis.com (503)754-4452 Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 00:19:47 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: plug-discuss

Re: Wubi

2008-11-03 Thread Joshua Zeidner
Lisa, I think Dan and Judd are describing a situation where they *don't* use Wubi. to my knowledge, Wubi does not repartition the drive. -jmz On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 10:37 AM, Lisa Kachold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes, > > There are quite a few similar experiences w

Re: Wubi

2008-11-03 Thread Josh Coffman
Not having used wubi, I can't comment other than that I've never had a problem managing or fixing the boot sector. ya'll probably know the linux tools for fixing a boot sector better than I do. To fix a windows boot sector just boot from the windows cd, drop to a command prompt

Re: Wubi

2008-11-03 Thread Joshua Zeidner
rumor has it though that Vista does not play nicely with other boot sectors. I dont feel like taking a chance at this point. -jmz On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 11:00 AM, Josh Coffman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Not having used wubi, I can't comment other than that I've ne

Re: Wubi

2008-11-03 Thread Joshua Zeidner
st because I'm a windows programmer, Get Thee To A Nunnery! > which means losing windows on my dev box is/was a big risk for me. > > You could use gparted to image your machine to a backup location before > trying wubi. It should be trivial to recover then if there was a p

Re: Wubi

2008-11-03 Thread Stephen
mer, > > > Get Thee To A Nunnery! > > >> which means losing windows on my dev box is/was a big risk for me. >> >> You could use gparted to image your machine to a backup location before >> trying wubi. It should be trivial to recover then if there was a proble

Re: Wubi

2008-11-03 Thread Josh Coffman
e to a backup location before trying wubi. It should be trivial to recover then if there was a problem. -j On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 11:06 AM, Joshua Zeidner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > rumor has it though that Vista does not play nicely with other boot > sectors. I dont feel like

Re: Wubi

2008-11-03 Thread Josh Coffman
> > Personally, I think of risk & cost before doing such a thing. I'm in a > > different situation than most on this list because I'm a windows > programmer, > > > Get Thee To A Nunnery! > > Zoot: Welcome, brave sir Knight. Welcome to the Castle Anthrax. Sir Galahad: The Castle Anthrax? Zoot: Ye

Re: Wubi

2008-11-03 Thread Dan Lund
ur program. --Linus Torvalds, Original Inventor of the Linux kernel August, 2006 On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 10:43 AM, Joshua Zeidner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Lisa, I think Dan and Judd are describing a situation where they > *don't* use Wubi. > > to my knowledge, Wubi does not

Re: Wubi

2008-11-03 Thread Stephen
Its an option for people wanting to try Linux, and not wanting to make horribly permanent changes to their partitioning. for us. it doesn't have quite the usefulness unless we have a windows box and some restriction in its alteration. On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 3:32 PM, Dan Lund <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> w

Re: Wubi

2008-11-03 Thread Dan Lund
Oh okay, a try before you buy scenario, gotcha. Thanks man :) Thanks, Dan Lund If you need more than 3 levels of indentation, you're screwed anyway, and should fix your program. --Linus Torvalds, Original Inventor of the Linux kernel August, 2006 On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 3:36 PM, Stephen <[EMAIL

Re: Wubi

2008-11-03 Thread Dan Lund
; different situation than most on this list because I'm a windows programmer, > which means losing windows on my dev box is/was a big risk for me. > > You could use gparted to image your machine to a backup location before > trying wubi. It should be trivial to recover then if ther

Brief Wubi report

2007-12-10 Thread Alan Dayley
booting W2K. At this point I figured I'd try out Wubi (http://wubi-installer.org) as an easy way to get Linux on the machine. All went well until the first boot into Ubuntu. The computer hung at one of the install processes. After that it would not run the Wubi installer again. ??? I l

Re: Brief Wubi report

2007-12-11 Thread Dazed_75
oot DOS. > - Run W2K installer from DOS. > - Install W2K to a second partition created by the W2K installer. > - All is well with booting W2K. > > At this point I figured I'd try out Wubi (http://wubi-installer.org) as > an easy way to get Linux on the machine. All went well

Re: Brief Wubi report

2007-12-12 Thread Alan Dayley
Dazed_75 wrote: > Which wubi-installer did you use? They exist for different versions > of ubuntu. Last I looked the version for ubuntu 7.10 was still in > beta. I would be suspicious of the ubuntu version as well. My > experience trying 7.10 on a variety of machines seems to

Re: Brief Wubi report

2007-12-13 Thread Dazed_75
Marvin Fretwell and I have been looking into this. I did a fair amount of research today and wrote a rather speculative paper to describe what I found. It is clearly a draft and not ready for prime time. But it is only 2 pages so I will send you a copy off list. Let me know if it is helpful or

Wubi installation, Antivirus for Windows in Linux

2009-04-26 Thread Renato Patron
t of music/pictures/documents and some software in Windows that wants to use, and I think that having a dual-boot will be less complicated. Does anybody have experience using Wubi on an infected Windows partition? Does anybody knows of an Antivirus for Windows that will work in Ubuntu so maybe I c

Re: Wubi installation, Antivirus for Windows in Linux

2009-04-26 Thread Jon M. Hanson
f > music/pictures/documents and some software in Windows that wants to > use, > and I think that having a dual-boot will be less complicated. > > Does anybody have experience using Wubi on an infected Windows > partition? > Does anybody knows of an Antivirus for Windows that

Re: Wubi installation, Antivirus for Windows in Linux

2009-04-26 Thread Renato Patron
Jon, So far I've tried, MalwareBytes, Super Antispyware, DrWeb Live CD, and nothing... The computer is still infected. I'm installing Ubuntu right now using Wubi. I'll keep you posted. Renato On Sun, 2009-04-26 at 11:03 -0700, Jon M. Hanson wrote: > Run this: http://www.su

Re: Wubi installation, Antivirus for Windows in Linux

2009-04-26 Thread Jon M. Hanson
infected. I'm installing Ubuntu > right > now using Wubi. I'll keep you posted. > > Renato > > On Sun, 2009-04-26 at 11:03 -0700, Jon M. Hanson wrote: >> Run this: http://www.superantispyware.com. Use the free edition and >> it >> should be ab

Re: Wubi installation, Antivirus for Windows in Linux

2009-04-26 Thread Renato Patron
-az.net > > > > > On Apr 26, 2009, at 11:18 AM, Renato Patron wrote: > > > Jon, > > > > So far I've tried, MalwareBytes, Super Antispyware, DrWeb Live CD, and > > nothing... The computer is still infected. I'm installing Ubuntu > >

Re: Wubi installation, Antivirus for Windows in Linux

2009-04-26 Thread Jon M. Hanson
t; Homepage: http://the-hansons-az.net/drupal >> Jabber IM: j...@the-hansons-az.net >> >> >> >> >> On Apr 26, 2009, at 11:18 AM, Renato Patron wrote: >> >>> Jon, >>> >>> So far I've tried, MalwareBytes, Super Antispyware, DrWe

Re: Wubi installation, Antivirus for Windows in Linux

2009-04-26 Thread Renato Patron
Ok, I installed Ubuntu using Wubi, but it doesn't load. It starts and then it hangs and the computer shuts down. I tried Ubuntu using the Live CD feaure and it works perfectly. I'm lost... Any suggestions? Renato On Sun, 2009-04-26 at 11:27 -0700, Jon M. Hanson wrote: > It will

Re: Wubi installation, Antivirus for Windows in Linux

2009-04-26 Thread Stephen
ts and some software in Windows that wants to use, > and I think that having a dual-boot will be less complicated. > > Does anybody have experience using Wubi on an infected Windows > partition? > Does anybody knows of an Antivirus for Windows that will work in Ubuntu > so maybe I

Re: Wubi installation, Antivirus for Windows in Linux

2009-04-26 Thread Stephen
Pasibly some issues on disk If you have an old drive someplace you can add it for linux On 4/26/09, Renato Patron wrote: > Ok, I installed Ubuntu using Wubi, but it doesn't load. It starts and > then it hangs and the computer shuts down. > I tried Ubuntu using the Live CD feaur

Re: Wubi installation, Antivirus for Windows in Linux

2009-04-26 Thread Jim March
OK, Wubi is a bad idea generally and a terrible idea if Windows is already infected. I strongly recommend using the standard install CD and doing a guided partitioning process, shrinking the Windows partition and installing Ubuntu in it's own, native partition. That STILL won't disinfe

Re: Wubi installation, Antivirus for Windows in Linux

2009-04-26 Thread Renato Patron
009-04-26 at 13:20 -0700, Jim March wrote: > OK, Wubi is a bad idea generally and a terrible idea if Windows is > already infected. > > I strongly recommend using the standard install CD and doing a guided > partitioning process, shrinking the Windows partition and installin

Re: Wubi installation, Antivirus for Windows in Linux

2009-04-26 Thread JD Austin
lost hours just to find > out that the computer is still unusable. > I'm wiping the disk and installing Ubuntu from scratch. I'll have to > train my customer to use Ubuntu, but at least the computer will be > working :) > > Renato > > > On Sun, 2009-04-26 at 13:20

Re: Wubi installation, Antivirus for Windows in Linux

2009-04-26 Thread Renato Patron
atch. I'll > have to > train my customer to use Ubuntu, but at least the computer > will be > working :) > > Renato > > > > On Sun, 2009-04-26 at 13:20 -0700, Jim March wrote: > > O

Re: Wubi installation, Antivirus for Windows in Linux

2009-04-26 Thread Jim March
Quoting: --- I found the hard way that you are right. I've lost hours just to find out that the computer is still unusable. I'm wiping the disk and installing Ubuntu from scratch. I'll have to train my customer to use Ubuntu, but at least the computer will be working :) --- IF the system has enou

Re: Wubi installation, Antivirus for Windows in Linux

2009-04-26 Thread Stu
7;d like to install Ubuntu from scratch, but my customer is not > > completely sure about that. Also she has a lot of > > music/pictures/documents and some software in Windows that wants to use, > > and I think that having a dual-boot will be less complicated. > > > > Does anybo

Re: Wubi installation, Antivirus for Windows in Linux

2009-04-26 Thread Stu
untu from scratch, but my customer is not > completely sure about that. Also she has a lot of > music/pictures/documents and some software in Windows that wants to use, > and I think that having a dual-boot will be less complicated. > > Does anybody have experience using Wubi on an infe

Re: Wubi installation, Antivirus for Windows in Linux

2009-04-26 Thread Charles Jones
Stu wrote: > On Sun, 2009-04-26 at 10:59 -0700, Renato Patron wrote: > Not too long ago I fixed up a laptop for a friend who had the same > problem. I copied his "Documents and Settings" onto a usb HD, scanned it > from my Linux computer with ClamAV, (AVG also has a free anti virus that > run

Friend Installs Kubuntu via wubi, no adept installed

2009-04-27 Thread Ryan Rix
Hi, My friend just installed Kubuntu onto his system via Wubi and has been having problems installing software. AKA, wubi didn't install adept or any package manager... Is this normal? Should he just apt-get install adept or do you guys think there is something more sinistar? -- Thank

Re: Friend Installs Kubuntu via wubi, no adept installed

2009-04-27 Thread Jim March
Wubi sucks. Jeez. Installing a stable operating system from within an UNstable one is insanity. It's Ubuntu's worst idea. Shuttleworth will eventually figure it out, meanwhile do a real install - dual-boot if you must. Jim --- PL

Re: Friend Installs Kubuntu via wubi, no adept installed

2009-04-27 Thread Dazed_75
Wubi is fantastic and works superbly in most systems and for most people. Frankly, I've seen so many people happy with it in the last two ubuntu releases I have a hard time seeing where anyone would say it sucks. We did two such installs Saturday at the installfest and both went without a

Re: Friend Installs Kubuntu via wubi, no adept installed

2009-04-27 Thread Dazed_75
thin windows (wubi install) - Shortly after booting into kubuntu I was notified 4 updates were available - Verified that apt-get, etc and aptitude were both installed - Looked through the KDE menus and found Applications/System/Software Management (which showed a description of "KpackageKit&quo

Re: Friend Installs Kubuntu via wubi, no adept installed

2009-04-28 Thread Stephen
> > My friend just installed Kubuntu onto his system via Wubi and has been > having problems installing software. AKA, wubi didn't install adept or any > package manager... > > Is this normal? Should he just apt-get install adept or do you guys think > there is something

Why Wubi is the stupidest idea in Linux history...

2009-04-28 Thread Jim March
Quoting: --- Wubi is an Ubuntu installer for Windows that lets you install and uninstall Ubuntu from a Windows desktop. Wubi adds an entry to the Windows boot menu which allows you to run Linux. Ubuntu is installed within a file in the Windows file system (a loopmounted partition), this file is

Re: Why Wubi is the stupidest idea in Linux history...

2009-04-28 Thread Eric Shubert
wubi is a stepping stone. Not a good long term solution, but a way to get to the other side. Jim March wrote: > Quoting: > > --- > Wubi is an Ubuntu installer for Windows that lets you install and > uninstall Ubuntu from a Windows desktop. Wubi adds an entry to the > Windo

Re: Why Wubi is the stupidest idea in Linux history...

2009-04-28 Thread Kenny Pepiton
But the idea of Wubi in all truth was another means by which to bring Linux to the attention of Windows users. The idea in most of these setups is not to really be permanent but give you a chance to play with Linux in a more robust situation than those shown in a LiveCD. Kenny Jim March

Re: Why Wubi is the stupidest idea in Linux history...

2009-04-28 Thread Jim March
Guys, once you have a working Ubuntu/Wubi system, how likely is it the user will just stick with it as long as it works? Seriously? Jim --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change

Re: Why Wubi is the stupidest idea in Linux history...

2009-04-28 Thread Stephen
Wubi is great for its purpose For you it is not needed but for someone who is 100% new to linux it is a great learning tool it was never considered a replacement for a real dual boot On 4/28/09, Jim March <1.jim.ma...@gmail.com> wrote: > Quoting: > > --- > Wubi is an Ub

Re: Why Wubi is the stupidest idea in Linux history...

2009-04-28 Thread Eric Shubert
Jim March wrote: > Guys, once you have a working Ubuntu/Wubi system, how likely is it the > user will just stick with it as long as it works? Very likely. The question is, how long will that be? ;) -- -Eric 'shubes' --- PLUG-disc

Re: Why Wubi is the stupidest idea in Linux history...

2009-04-28 Thread Dazed_75
n the LiveCD. On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 11:00 AM, Eric Shubert wrote: > Jim March wrote: > > Guys, once you have a working Ubuntu/Wubi system, how likely is it the > > user will just stick with it as long as it works? > > Very likely. The question is, how long will that be?

Re: Why Wubi is the stupidest idea in Linux history...

2009-04-28 Thread fouldragon
) 3Gb EIDE hard disc. The small problem was I seem to recall that DOS didn't love the deep paths it tended to create. -Original Message- From: Jim March <1.jim.ma...@gmail.com> To: Main PLUG discussion list ; Tucson Free Unix Group Sent: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 9:50 am Subject: Why

Re: Why Wubi is the stupidest idea in Linux history...

2009-04-30 Thread Bishmer Sekaran
If it wasn't for Wubi I'd have to use Winblows at work. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss

Re: Why Wubi is the stupidest idea in Linux history...

2009-04-30 Thread Matthew A Coulliette
Hi, I think wubi is a great idea. It reminds me of the OpenCD project that had all multi-platform software on it. The idea was to make it easier for windows and apple people to gain linux experience. After having read this thread, I am thinking about installing it on a friend's computer.

Re: Why Wubi is the stupidest idea in Linux history...

2009-05-01 Thread Ryan Rix
Or, you know, a dual bootable setup is deathly easy with the ubuntu installer and as was pointed out, much safer... On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 10:14 PM, Matthew A Coulliette wrote: > Hi, > > I think wubi is a great idea. It reminds me of the OpenCD project that > had all multi-platform

Re: Why Wubi is the stupidest idea in Linux history...

2009-05-01 Thread Stephen
er and as was pointed out, much safer... > > On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 10:14 PM, Matthew A Coulliette > wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I think wubi is a great idea. It reminds me of the OpenCD project that >> had all multi-platform software on it. The idea was to mak

Re: Why Wubi is the stupidest idea in Linux history...NOT!

2009-05-01 Thread Mark Jarvis
CD or Wubi. As anyone who has used a live CD for any length of time knows, it's a royal pain. The boot is slow, it runs slowly, if you want to save anything, you've got to be careful to save it to a flash drive, and aside from what you put on a flash drive, everything is new each time you b

Re: Why Wubi is the stupidest idea in Linux history...NOT!

2009-05-01 Thread Ryan Rix
The problem is that most users will not see the upgrade path when they are ready for it, leaving them at the will of the windwos boot loader utnil it goes kaput and their ubuntu install is at the will of a fussy ntfs filesystem. Imo wubi gives a new user a small paddle boat to get out to the main

Re: Why Wubi is the stupidest idea in Linux history...NOT!

2009-05-02 Thread Stephen
hey are > ready for it, leaving them at the will of the windwos boot loader utnil it > goes kaput and their ubuntu install is at the will of a fussy ntfs > filesystem. > > Imo wubi gives a new user a small paddle boat to get out to the main ship, > but no ladder to climb on board onc

Re: Why Wubi is the stupidest idea in Linux history...NOT!

2009-05-05 Thread Ryan Rix
Or an app that ran from cron once a month saying "hey, you're running wubi, switch to a dual boot. Click 'Install to HDD' and we'll do this for you, making sure that Windows is set up in Grub to dual boot." On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 7:54 AM, Stephen wrote: > It is

Re: Why Wubi is the stupidest idea in Linux history...NOT!

2009-05-05 Thread Stephen
honestly the installer in a wubi shell would be handy, but im not sure how resizeing a partition that your actively running on will work On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 8:41 AM, Ryan Rix wrote: > Or an app that ran from cron once a month saying "hey, you're running wubi, > switch to a

Re: Why Wubi is the stupidest idea in Linux history...NOT!

2009-05-05 Thread Ryan Rix
ok, "here put a cd-r in and we'll burn you a nice automagic installer/data moving thinger." the qubi image is just an ext3 image right? dd, baby :) On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 9:05 AM, Stephen wrote: > honestly the installer in a wubi shell would be handy, but im not sure > how

Re: Why Wubi is the stupidest idea in Linux history...NOT!

2009-05-05 Thread Stephen
r in and we'll burn you a nice automagic installer/data > moving thinger." > the qubi image is just an ext3 image right? dd, baby :) > > On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 9:05 AM, Stephen wrote: >> >> honestly the installer in a wubi shell would be handy, but im not sure >&