Re: [pmwiki-users] Conceptual challenges from ZAPwiki...

2007-06-02 Thread Patrick R. Michaud
> Can we take the "off topic" messages to some other mailing list please? I agree -- I think this thread has definitely outlived its usefulness. Pm ___ pmwiki-users mailing list pmwiki-users@pmichaud.com http://www.pmichaud.com/mailman/listinfo/pmwik

Re: [pmwiki-users] Conceptual challenges from ZAPwiki...

2007-06-02 Thread Kathryn Andersen
On Sat, Jun 02, 2007 at 10:13:35PM -0400, The Editor wrote: > On 6/2/07, Sivakatirswami <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > PMwiki is all about collaboration. > > > > Set the code aside for a minute and look at the value system of what PM > > is doing and the way he goes at it and the high, positive lev

Re: [pmwiki-users] Conceptual challenges from ZAPwiki...

2007-06-02 Thread Ian MacGregor
On Saturday 02 June 2007 8:16:26 pm J. Meijer wrote: > Congratulations Dan, your my hero here. You made a great, no exceptional, > contribution. > > You're probably thinking of getting out of this community, feeling molested > right? Imagine, a member you held in esteem (he even played a role in

Re: [pmwiki-users] Conceptual challenges from ZAPwiki...

2007-06-02 Thread J. Meijer
Congratulations Dan, your my hero here. You made a great, no exceptional, contribution. You're probably thinking of getting out of this community, feeling molested right? Imagine, a member you held in esteem (he even played a role in you coming to pmwiki), kicks you in the balls. And then th

Re: [pmwiki-users] Conceptual challenges from ZAPwiki...

2007-06-02 Thread The Editor
On 6/2/07, Sivakatirswami <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Let's climb a mountain, sit quietly > and scan the global information landscape below. > > PMwiki is all about collaboration. > > Set the code aside for a minute and look at the value system of what PM > is doing and the way he goes at it and

Re: [pmwiki-users] Conceptual challenges from ZAPwiki...

2007-06-02 Thread Sivakatirswami
The Editor wrote: > On 6/1/07, Ben Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On 5/31/07, The Editor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> Just wanted to post a follow up regarding the initial beta >>> release of ZAPwiki. >> Dan, et al. I'm generally a charitable fellow who likes everybody >> to get along. ZAPW

Re: [pmwiki-users] Conceptual challenges from ZAPwiki...

2007-06-02 Thread Sandy
Henrik wrote: > Two points: > > 1. Would it make sense to move this thread to the pmwiki-devel forum? It would make sense to move it to a ZAPwiki forum. I'm sure a tasteful, rare advertisement here would be acceptable. Also advertise outside the PmWiki community, so that people who are not here

Re: [pmwiki-users] Conceptual challenges from ZAPwiki...

2007-06-01 Thread Ian MacGregor
On Friday 01 June 2007 11:06:44 pm Christophe David wrote: > >> I'll keep my comments very short here. > > With all respect, I feel this "my wiki is bigger than yours" > discussion should be at least held somewhere else, or better simply > stopped. I agree 100%. This is pmwiki-users, not pmwiki-let

Re: [pmwiki-users] Conceptual challenges from ZAPwiki...

2007-06-01 Thread Christophe David
>> I'll keep my comments very short here. With all respect, I feel this "my wiki is bigger than yours" discussion should be at least held somewhere else, or better simply stopped. Trying not to add even more noise here: - People make the effort to install and run PmWiki because they find the act

Re: [pmwiki-users] Conceptual challenges from ZAPwiki...

2007-06-01 Thread Petko Yotov
On Saturday 02 June 2007, Henrik wrote: > Two points: > > 1. Would it make sense to move this thread to the pmwiki-devel forum? > > 2. I get a bit concerned when Patrick feels compelled to repeat points > previously made, particularly in relation to a challenge to his > legitimacy, or the legitimac

Re: [pmwiki-users] Conceptual challenges from ZAPwiki...

2007-06-01 Thread Patrick R. Michaud
On Fri, Jun 01, 2007 at 06:25:48PM -0400, The Editor wrote: > Thanks for the lengthy reply Pm, much appreciated. I posted a few > comments below, but tried to keep it short, for everyone's sake. I'll keep my comments very short here. > >> 1. A simple script for auto installing farm fields. How ma

Re: [pmwiki-users] Conceptual challenges from ZAPwiki...

2007-06-01 Thread Henrik
Two points: 1. Would it make sense to move this thread to the pmwiki-devel forum? 2. I get a bit concerned when Patrick feels compelled to repeat points previously made, particularly in relation to a challenge to his legitimacy, or the legitimacy of his technical positions. It wastes his time

Re: [pmwiki-users] Conceptual challenges from ZAPwiki...

2007-06-01 Thread The Editor
Thanks for the lengthy reply Pm, much appreciated. I posted a few comments below, but tried to keep it short, for everyone's sake. On 6/1/07, Patrick R. Michaud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Jun 01, 2007 at 09:17:52AM -0400, The Editor wrote: > > > [...] Heck, it would > > > be more fun to

Re: [pmwiki-users] Conceptual challenges from ZAPwiki...

2007-06-01 Thread Patrick R. Michaud
On Fri, Jun 01, 2007 at 09:17:52AM -0400, The Editor wrote: > > [...] Heck, it would > > be more fun to write a program that would allow me to completely > > overwrite your index.php at will with a user submitted post. [...] > > What you fail to mention however is that this line is never run unles

Re: [pmwiki-users] Conceptual challenges from ZAPwiki...

2007-06-01 Thread The Editor
On 6/1/07, Ben Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 5/31/07, The Editor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Just wanted to post a follow up regarding the initial beta release of > > ZAPwiki. > > Dan, et al. I'm generally a charitable fellow who likes everybody to > get along. ZAPWiki is the exception

Re: [pmwiki-users] Conceptual challenges from ZAPwiki...

2007-06-01 Thread Ben Wilson
On 5/31/07, The Editor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Just wanted to post a follow up regarding the initial beta release of ZAPwiki. Dan, et al. I'm generally a charitable fellow who likes everybody to get along. ZAPWiki is the exception to my rule. First, Dan is clearly adverting an alternative sol

Re: [pmwiki-users] Conceptual challenges from ZAPwiki...

2007-05-31 Thread IchBin
The Editor wrote: > Just wanted to post a follow up regarding the initial beta release of ZAPwiki. > [ snip ] > smaller than pmwiki.php all by itself. > > Cheers, > Dan In the comp.lang.* newsgroups they would call this spam. Example: A J# programmer messaged a Java group and expounded on the

Re: [pmwiki-users] Conceptual challenges from ZAPwiki...

2007-05-31 Thread Patrick R. Michaud
I have only one comment... On Thu, May 31, 2007 at 06:11:21PM -0400, The Editor wrote: > ... > Unless you've wrestled with the inner > workings of PmWiki file formats (the reason for the long delay in Pm's > commenting system), you won't appreciate how nice this is. The file format that PmWiki u

[pmwiki-users] Conceptual challenges from ZAPwiki...

2007-05-31 Thread The Editor
Just wanted to post a follow up regarding the initial beta release of ZAPwiki. Without trying to sound like I'm promoting it here, I do think it could be of real benefit to the PmWiki community to have a few folks look at it, as it offers some radical ideas and innovative features that could perha