On Sat, Feb 03, 2007 at 05:50:38PM -0600, Patrick R. Michaud wrote:
> In fact, one of the reasons I want to have a separate temporary
> directory is so that we can get rid of the leading dot and
> "invisible" files that we have now. :-)
>
> Thus:
>
> wiki.d/.flock -> tmp/flock
> wik
On Sun, Feb 04, 2007 at 09:09:06AM -0600, Patrick R. Michaud wrote:
> writeable-private/
> wiki.d/
> temp.d/
>
> It makes it very clear what the directory is for, with the
> downside of being a really long directory name.
wr - no, it's not that long ;)
Balu
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On Mon, 5 Feb 2007, Patrick R. Michaud wrote:
pmwiki/
pmwiki.php (including pmwiki.php)
"core"/
scripts/
pmwiki.php
This might lead to a problem in computing a value for $FarmD, which
really ought to be the directory containing scripts/, cookboo
On Mon, Feb 05, 2007 at 12:07:26AM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Here's a thought. Would it help if we said that generally speaking
> everything not in pub/ is private? The execptions that are also public
> would be pmwiki.php and uploads/.
Sure, that's pretty much what we do now. The p
On Sun, Feb 04, 2007 at 10:41:07PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Sat, 3 Feb 2007, The Editor wrote:
>
> >>>pmwiki/
> >>> pmwiki.php (including pmwiki.php)
>
> >>> "core"/
> >>> scripts/
> pmwiki.php
>
> A bit separate, but I kind of like the id
On Sun, 4 Feb 2007, Patrick R. Michaud wrote:
scripts/ farmprivate read-onlycore
wikilib.d/ farm[1] read-onlycore
local/ field private read-onlylocal
cookbook/[2] private read-onlylocal
farmconfig.php farmprivate r
Am 04.02.2007 um 22:41 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
> On Sat, 3 Feb 2007, The Editor wrote:
>
pmwiki/
pmwiki.php (including pmwiki.php)
>
"core"/
scripts/
> pmwiki.php
>
> A bit separate, but I kind of like the idea of letting the f
On Sun, Feb 04, 2007 at 11:08:56PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >But the truth is that there's no one dimension that can neatly cover
> >everything.
>
> I reorganized things along two dimensions: private/public v.s. ro/rw.
Cool. I've reorganized that version a bit further...
scripts/
On Sun, 4 Feb 2007, Patrick R. Michaud wrote:
On Sat, Feb 03, 2007 at 11:58:05PM -0500, Neil Herber (nospam) wrote:
What about this off-the-wall idea?
working.d/ # top-level writable directory
wiki.d/ # page file storage
temp.d/ # temporary/work files
On Sun, 4 Feb 2007, Patrick R. Michaud wrote:
"pmwiki-core"/
pmwiki.php
scripts/
wikilib.d/
cookbook/
local/
farmconfig.php
pub/
guiedit/
skins/
cache/
"field"/
index.php
writable/
wiki.d
On Sat, 3 Feb 2007, Patrick R. Michaud wrote:
And as I responded to Tom's message earlier, we still have the situation
where web-accessible files are now spread out across multiple
directories, instead of being easily centralized in a single pub/ url
root.
Is it realistic to expect that we c
On Sat, 3 Feb 2007, The Editor wrote:
pmwiki/
pmwiki.php (including pmwiki.php)
"core"/
scripts/
pmwiki.php
A bit separate, but I kind of like the idea of letting the file pmwiki.php
in the root simply include the real pmwiki.php (possibly
On Sun, Feb 04, 2007 at 12:09:00PM -0500, The Editor wrote:
> On 2/4/07, Patrick R. Michaud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >What we have now is essentially:
> >
> > "pmwiki-core"/
> > pmwiki.php
> > scripts/
> > wikilib.d/
> > cookbook/
> > local/
> > farmcon
On 2/4/07, Patrick R. Michaud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 04, 2007 at 07:39:19AM -0500, The Editor wrote:
> > >> >> pmwiki/
> > >> >> pmwiki.php (including pmwiki.php)
> > >> >> "core"/ (or could call the barn =|:)> )
> > >> >> scripts/
> > >> >>
Am 04.02.2007 um 16:09 schrieb Patrick R. Michaud:
> On Sat, Feb 03, 2007 at 11:58:05PM -0500, Neil Herber (nospam) wrote:
>> What about this off-the-wall idea?
>>
>> working.d/ # top-level writable directory
>>wiki.d/ # page file storage
>>temp.d/ # tempo
On Sat, Feb 03, 2007 at 11:58:05PM -0500, Neil Herber (nospam) wrote:
> What about this off-the-wall idea?
>
> working.d/ # top-level writable directory
>wiki.d/ # page file storage
>temp.d/ # temporary/work files
I'm half-wondering if we should call it s
On Sun, Feb 04, 2007 at 07:39:19AM -0500, The Editor wrote:
> >> >> pmwiki/
> >> >> pmwiki.php (including pmwiki.php)
> >> >> "core"/ (or could call the barn =|:)> )
> >> >> scripts/
> >> >> wikilib.d/
> >> >> guiedit/
> >> >> c
On 2/4/07, Patrick R. Michaud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sat, Feb 03, 2007 at 09:34:02PM -0500, The Editor wrote:
> > I am not as up on all the ins and outs of the different options, but I
> > like Tom's idea very well, and for the reasons he gave... Maybe with
> > this modification:
> >
> >
On Sat, Feb 03, 2007 at 09:34:02PM -0500, The Editor wrote:
> I am not as up on all the ins and outs of the different options, but I
> like Tom's idea very well, and for the reasons he gave... Maybe with
> this modification:
>
> >> pmwiki/
> >> pmwiki.php (including pmwiki.php)
> >> "
What about this off-the-wall idea?
working.d/ # top-level writable directory
wiki.d/ # page file storage
temp.d/ # temporary/work files
--
Neil Herber
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I am not as up on all the ins and outs of the different options, but I
like Tom's idea very well, and for the reasons he gave... Maybe with
this modification:
> > pmwiki/
> > pmwiki.php (including pmwiki.php)
> > "core"/ (or could call the barn =|:)> )
> > scripts/
>
On Sun, Feb 04, 2007 at 10:37:02AM +1100, Kathryn Andersen wrote:
> You could then put things like .pageindex inside temp.d so that it's
> more visible.
In fact, one of the reasons I want to have a separate temporary
directory is so that we can get rid of the leading dot and
"invisible" files that
On Sat, Feb 03, 2007 at 09:59:25PM +, Hans wrote:
>
> To have a "top-level" directory may be good, but we still have other
> page stores at other places, i.e. wikilib.d of various kinds (pmwiki,
> skins, recipes).
The issue isn't one of how many pagestores we have, but where
writable directo
On Sat, Feb 03, 2007 at 05:32:08PM -0500, Scott Connard wrote:
> > On Sat, Feb 03, 2007 at 10:20:54PM +0100,
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> >> On Sat, 3 Feb 2007, Patrick R. Michaud wrote:
> >>
> >>> I'd be very interested to hear suggestions for what we should
> >>> name this 'top-level wr
> On Sat, Feb 03, 2007 at 10:20:54PM +0100,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 3 Feb 2007, Patrick R. Michaud wrote:
>>
>>> I'd be very interested to hear suggestions for what we should
>>> name this
>>> 'top-level writable directory'. (In fact, it's my major block at
>>> this
>>> point
On Sat, Feb 03, 2007 at 10:41:40PM +0100, Petko Yotov wrote:
> > > Lots of (most?) PmWiki administrators aren't familiar with
> > > Unix conventions, such as var/ . I'd like something that's
> > > going to be quickly understood even by people who are unaware
> > > of the Unix meaning of "var/".
Saturday, February 3, 2007, 9:06:20 PM, Patrick wrote:
> I'd be very interested to hear suggestions for what we
> should name this 'top-level writable directory'. (In fact,
> it's my major block at this point.) Ideally it should be
> something that aids understanding by new PmWiki
> administra
On Sat, 3 Feb 2007, Patrick R. Michaud wrote:
The purpose of the directory is to be the place where PmWiki
creates files of various sorts, excluding uploads. This includes
a wiki.d/ directory for holding page files, as well as various
subdirectories (e.g., work.d/) to hold work files that PmWik
On Saturday 03 February 2007 22:06, Patrick R. Michaud wrote:
> > Lots of (most?) PmWiki administrators aren't familiar with
> > Unix conventions, such as var/ . I'd like something that's
> > going to be quickly understood even by people who are unaware
> > of the Unix meaning of "var/".
>
> ...
On Sat, Feb 03, 2007 at 10:20:54PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Sat, 3 Feb 2007, Patrick R. Michaud wrote:
> >I'd be very interested to hear suggestions for what we should name this
> >'top-level writable directory'. (In fact, it's my major block at this
> >point.) Ideally it should be
On Sat, 3 Feb 2007, Patrick R. Michaud wrote:
The structure would be something like:
pmwiki/
pmwiki.php# main PmWiki script
cookbook/ # directory for cookbook scripts
data.d/ # top-level writable directory
wiki.d/ # page file storage
w
On Sat, Feb 03, 2007 at 10:03:51AM -0600, Patrick R. Michaud wrote:
> On Sat, Feb 03, 2007 at 01:40:56PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > On Fri, 2 Feb 2007, Patrick R. Michaud wrote:
> > >The structure would be something like:
> > >
> > > pmwiki/
> > > pmwiki.php# main PmWiki scri
On Sat, 3 Feb 2007, Patrick R. Michaud wrote:
It's the OS I'm worried about... Doesn't this basically mean that a
lot of hosts with PmWiki can be brought down quite easily?
I don't know about "a lot".
...
Ok, I'm reasonably convinced.
And there are practical bandwidth limitations involved
On Sat, Feb 03, 2007 at 06:55:33PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Sat, 3 Feb 2007, Patrick R. Michaud wrote:
>
> >Lots of (most?) PmWiki administrators aren't familiar with Unix
> >conventions, such as var/ .
>
> Figures. I still think it'd be good to emphasize that this particular
> d
On Sat, 3 Feb 2007, Patrick R. Michaud wrote:
Lots of (most?) PmWiki administrators aren't familiar with Unix
conventions, such as var/ . I'd like something that's going to be
quickly understood even by people who are unaware of the Unix meaning of
"var/". (Even among Unix administrators I f
On Sat, Feb 03, 2007 at 02:20:52PM +0100, Tom Lederer wrote:
> Hi, i would like to comment that in my point of view there are
> basically three types of directories on a server:
>
> 1. dirs that should not be touched, because it's the "installation",
> 2. dirs that contain data, meaning they c
On Sat, Feb 03, 2007 at 01:40:56PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Fri, 2 Feb 2007, Patrick R. Michaud wrote:
> >The structure would be something like:
> >
> > pmwiki/
> > pmwiki.php# main PmWiki script
> > cookbook/ # directory for cookbook scripts
> > data.d/
Am 03.02.2007 um 13:40 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
> On Fri, 2 Feb 2007, Patrick R. Michaud wrote:
>
>> Back in December I brought up a thread [1] regarding a dedicated
>> "work directory" for PmWiki scripts. There were many useful
>> suggestions and comments... and then I left for vacation an
On Fri, 2 Feb 2007, Patrick R. Michaud wrote:
Back in December I brought up a thread [1] regarding a dedicated "work
directory" for PmWiki scripts. There were many useful suggestions and
comments... and then I left for vacation and was too distracted with
holidays. :-)
Good for you!
[1]
On Fri, Feb 02, 2007 at 06:16:10PM -0600, Patrick R. Michaud wrote:
> 2. Allow existing sites to continue to use wiki.d/ at the
> PmWiki level, and use data.d/work.d/ for work files. The
> software would automatically use wiki.d/ at the root if
> it exists and there's not a data.d/wiki.d/ directo
Back in December I brought up a thread [1] regarding a dedicated
"work directory" for PmWiki scripts. There were many useful
suggestions and comments... and then I left for vacation and
was too distracted with holidays. :-)
[1] http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.wiki.pmwiki.user/36932
So,
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