On 19 May 2006, Otto Moerbeek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Fri, 19 May 2006, Liviu Daia wrote:
>
> > On 19 May 2006, sand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Daniel Hartmeier wrote:
> > > > While testing pfstat, I noticed that FreeBSD's port of gd 2.0.33
> > > > [1] has a WITHOUT_X11 "flavor". It
On Fri, 19 May 2006, Liviu Daia wrote:
> On 19 May 2006, sand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Daniel Hartmeier wrote:
> > > While testing pfstat, I noticed that FreeBSD's port of gd 2.0.33
> > > [1] has a WITHOUT_X11 "flavor". It does pull in freetype2, but that
> > > doesn't depend on X11 there.
On 19 May 2006, sand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Daniel Hartmeier wrote:
> > While testing pfstat, I noticed that FreeBSD's port of gd 2.0.33
> > [1] has a WITHOUT_X11 "flavor". It does pull in freetype2, but that
> > doesn't depend on X11 there.
>
> I've tried to add a 'no_x11' FLAVOR, can somebo
hmm, on Thu, May 18, 2006 at 11:24:42PM +0300, Liviu Daia said that
> > what is the utility in that?
>
> To start a debate. At this point (7 month after the fact), a polite
> message would have never accomplished that. Did I succeed? Yes:
> several people have expressed their views.
there
On Friday 19 May 2006 15:48, Keith Matthews wrote:
> As to the inclusion of X in everything - there have been statements
> that "it has been decided" - decided by whom ? - I've seen no discussion
> of the matter on this list.
A discussion is not necessasry for a decision to be made.
---
Lars Han
On Fri, 19 May 2006 08:48:52 +0100, Keith Matthews wrote:
>As to the inclusion of X in everything - there have been statements
>that "it has been decided" - decided by whom ? - I've seen no discussion
>of the matter on this list.
This is not a democracy. That is probably, outside the competence
On Thu, 18 May 2006 15:47:19 -0400
Adam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, 18 May 2006 21:32:15 +0300 Liviu Daia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > How is it useful? (Hint: you can't talk about utility outside a
> > context. Useful to whom, for what purpose, with what costs?)
>
> And here
Daniel Hartmeier wrote:
> While testing pfstat, I noticed that FreeBSD's port of gd 2.0.33 [1] has
> a WITHOUT_X11 "flavor". It does pull in freetype2, but that doesn't depend
> on X11 there.
I've tried to add a 'no_x11' FLAVOR, can somebody test it?
Daniel
--- Makefile.orig Fri May 19 01:53
On Thu, May 18, 2006 at 10:46:52AM +0200, Matthieu Herrb wrote:
> We don't have a freetype2 port, and I don't want to see more ports that
> duplicate things existing in X.
Is freetype needed by gd only for truetype fonts? AFAIK, gd has a simple
bitmap font built in, so would it be acceptable to h
On 18 May 2006, Jacob Meuser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[...]
> so you did not test a snapshot (the gd update happened 7 months ago)
> and wish to make snide remarks about issues in the release.
Yup.
> what is the utility in that?
To start a debate. At this point (7 month after the fact
On Thu, 18 May 2006 21:32:15 +0300 Liviu Daia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> How is it useful? (Hint: you can't talk about utility outside a
> context. Useful to whom, for what purpose, with what costs?)
And here is the real issue. You think that your personal desires are
all that matters.
On Thu, May 18, 2006 at 12:07:34AM +0300, Liviu Daia wrote:
> On 17 May 2006, Nikolay Sturm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > * Liviu Daia [2006-05-17]:
> > > Consequently, I now need to install X in order to run pfstat, mrtg,
> > > and a host of other things that have nothing to do with X.
freetype2
On 18 May 2006, Adam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, 18 May 2006 19:40:35 +0300 Liviu Daia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> > > But see, most people don't care about 29MB of hard drive space
> > > being used.
> >
> > Do you have statistical figures to back up this statement?
>
> How many p
On Thu, 18 May 2006 10:00:31 -0700 Dave Mangot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Aside from the space which is an issue for those running on CF, I
> thought it was good security practice to install only what you will
> need. Minimal installs are more secure than those that have dozens of
> unused bin
On Thu, 18 May 2006 19:40:35 +0300 Liviu Daia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > But see, most people don't care about 29MB of hard drive space being
> > used.
>
> Do you have statistical figures to back up this statement?
How many people waste their time deleting every file they don't need
from
Nikolay Sturm ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) shaped the electrons to say:
> * Liviu Daia [2006-05-17]:
> > Consequently, I now need to install X in order to run pfstat, mrtg, and
> > a host of other things that have nothing to do with X.
>
> You have to install xbase39.tgz, I don't see how this is a big deal
On 18 May 2006, Adam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, 18 May 2006 09:24:58 +0300 Liviu Daia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> > I never said I have a problem running a stripped down system.
> > What I do have a (conceptual) problem with is making a bunch of
> > console applications dependent
On Thu, 18 May 2006 09:24:58 +0300 Liviu Daia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I never said I have a problem running a stripped down system. What
> I do have a (conceptual) problem with is making a bunch of console
> applications dependent on 30 MB of code that never gets run, for no good
> reaso
I've created a port for freetype2 a while ago.
You can download it from here:
http://tomekp.rix.pl/freetype2.tgz
--
Tomasz Pajor
WebSolutions
> Daniel Hartmeier wrote:
>> While testing pfstat, I noticed that FreeBSD's port of gd 2.0.33 [1] has
>> a WITHOUT_X11 "flavor". It does pull in freetype2,
Daniel Hartmeier wrote:
> While testing pfstat, I noticed that FreeBSD's port of gd 2.0.33 [1] has
> a WITHOUT_X11 "flavor". It does pull in freetype2, but that doesn't depend
> on X11 there.
We don't have a freetype2 port, and I don't want to see more ports that
duplicate things existing in X.
F
While testing pfstat, I noticed that FreeBSD's port of gd 2.0.33 [1] has
a WITHOUT_X11 "flavor". It does pull in freetype2, but that doesn't depend
on X11 there.
No, I don't have a patch yet ;)
Daniel
[1] http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/graphics/gd/Makefile?rev=1.78
Selon Liviu Daia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> I never said I have a problem running a stripped down system. What
> I do have a (conceptual) problem with is making a bunch of console
> applications dependent on 30 MB of code that never gets run, for no good
> reason. Apparently I'm not the only one
* Liviu Daia [2006-05-18]:
> FWIW I still haven't got an answer to the first question. I might
I didn't answer it because I don't know the answer. The port was
updated, I remember it being a major PITA and that's it. Ever since then
people complain about it and ever since then we tell them the sa
On 17 May 2006, Adam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, 18 May 2006 01:04:00 +0300 Liviu Daia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > On 17 May 2006, Marc Balmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[...]
> > > Don't blame us if you don't know how to fit stuff on a disk for an
> > > embedded system.
> >
> > O
On Thu, 18 May 2006 01:04:00 +0300 Liviu Daia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 17 May 2006, Marc Balmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > * Liviu Daia wrote:
> > > On 17 May 2006, Nikolay Sturm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > * Liviu Daia [2006-05-17]:
> > > > > Consequently, I now need to install
On 17 May 2006, Marc Balmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> * Liviu Daia wrote:
> > On 17 May 2006, Nikolay Sturm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > * Liviu Daia [2006-05-17]:
> > > > Consequently, I now need to install X in order to run pfstat,
> > > > mrtg, and a host of other things that have nothing
from the pfstat-2.0 announcement,
* Add a small daemon 'pfstatd' which listens on a TCP port and, when
connected to, sends the statistical pf data in plain text to the
peer. This program has no dependancies (gd, X11, etc.), so it can
be easily installed on a small firewall, and the main 'pfs
* Liviu Daia wrote:
> On 17 May 2006, Nikolay Sturm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > * Liviu Daia [2006-05-17]:
> > > Consequently, I now need to install X in order to run pfstat, mrtg,
> > > and a host of other things that have nothing to do with X.
> >
> > You have to install xbase39.tgz, I don't s
On 17 May 2006, Nikolay Sturm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> * Liviu Daia [2006-05-17]:
> > Consequently, I now need to install X in order to run pfstat, mrtg,
> > and a host of other things that have nothing to do with X.
>
> You have to install xbase39.tgz, I don't see how this is a big deal.
* Liviu Daia [2006-05-17]:
> Consequently, I now need to install X in order to run pfstat, mrtg, and
> a host of other things that have nothing to do with X.
You have to install xbase39.tgz, I don't see how this is a big deal.
> Can we please have an option to switch back to gd 1.8.x back?
No.
Is there a reason why Boutell gd has been upgraded to 2.0.33 in
3.9? The new version depends on fontconfig, which in turn depends on X.
Consequently, I now need to install X in order to run pfstat, mrtg, and
a host of other things that have nothing to do with X. Can we please
have an option t
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