Re: Low Budget Backups

2011-12-02 Thread email builder
>> No other people have systems for doing this? > > we are using http://dbmail.org/ behind postfix and a replication-slave > if you have only one server you can setup a slave on a different port > as 3306 on 127.0.0.1 > > benefit of the slave is that you can stop it at any time, make a > copy o

Re: Low Budget Backups

2011-12-02 Thread email builder
  Does anyone have any low-end/low-budget backup suggestions for user mail spools?  Consider hobby type scenarios or small businesses with a cheap single hard drive rented (dedicated/shared) server where there may not be budget for another server or paid ba

Re: Using postfix w/ mimedefang's Unix socket

2011-12-02 Thread Philip Prindeville
On 12/2/11 8:23 PM, Philip Prindeville wrote: > On 12/2/11 2:19 PM, Wietse Venema wrote: >> Philip Prindeville: >>> Would it make sense to add a parameter of additional gid's that >>> you want smtpd to retain? >> >> Perhaps you can use a class "inet" socket on 127.0.0.1. That >> will have less impa

Re: Using postfix w/ mimedefang's Unix socket

2011-12-02 Thread Philip Prindeville
On 12/2/11 2:19 PM, Wietse Venema wrote: > Philip Prindeville: >> Would it make sense to add a parameter of additional gid's that >> you want smtpd to retain? > > Perhaps you can use a class "inet" socket on 127.0.0.1. That > will have less impact on the Postfix security architecture. > With 64k p

Re: How to reject mail on secondary MX?

2011-12-02 Thread Erwan David
Le Fri 2/12/2011, Ken D'Ambrosio disait > Hey, all. I've got a primary -- my actual destination/IMAP server -- and, for > various reasons, a secondary SMTP server. My primary only rejects mail to > invalid recipients (spam is dealt with internally). I'd like my secondary to > reject invalid rec

Re: How to reject mail on secondary MX?

2011-12-02 Thread Robert Schetterer
Am 02.12.2011 23:02, schrieb Ken D'Ambrosio: > Hey, all. I've got a primary -- my actual destination/IMAP server -- and, for > various reasons, a secondary SMTP server. My primary only rejects mail to > invalid recipients (spam is dealt with internally). I'd like my secondary to > reject invalid

How to reject mail on secondary MX?

2011-12-02 Thread Ken D'Ambrosio
Hey, all. I've got a primary -- my actual destination/IMAP server -- and, for various reasons, a secondary SMTP server. My primary only rejects mail to invalid recipients (spam is dealt with internally). I'd like my secondary to reject invalid recipients, also. I can bring over /etc/aliases and

Re: Using postfix w/ mimedefang's Unix socket

2011-12-02 Thread Wietse Venema
Philip Prindeville: > Would it make sense to add a parameter of additional gid's that > you want smtpd to retain? Perhaps you can use a class "inet" socket on 127.0.0.1. That will have less impact on the Postfix security architecture. With 64k ports, you won't run out of them quickly. Wie

Using postfix w/ mimedefang's Unix socket

2011-12-02 Thread Philip Prindeville
I tried to set up Postfix (2.6.6) on a Centos6 system (yes, I've filed a bug for them to bump to something 2.8.x-ish)... as: Dec 1 20:26:05 localhost postfix/smtpd[7743]: warning: connect to Milter service unix:/var/spool/MIMEDefang/mimedefang.sock: Permission denied # ls -ld /var/spool/MIMEDe

Re: OT: Yahoo spam load

2011-12-02 Thread Robert Schetterer
Am 02.12.2011 21:15, schrieb Steve Fatula: > *From:* Wietse Venema > *To:* postfix-users@postfix.org > *Sent:* Friday, December 2, 2011 8:42 AM > *Subject:* OT: Yahoo spam load (was: Dead Destination configuration) > > To get some idea of Yahoo spam load (and keyword trends) s

Re: OT: Yahoo spam load (was: Dead Destination configuration)

2011-12-02 Thread Steve Fatula
From: Wietse Venema >To: postfix-users@postfix.org >Sent: Friday, December 2, 2011 8:42 AM >Subject: OT: Yahoo spam load (was: Dead Destination configuration) > >To get some idea of Yahoo spam load (and keyword trends) see >http://visualize.yahoo.com/ and click the green buttons. > >  >I wish th

Re: Dead Destination configuration

2011-12-02 Thread Wietse Venema
Mark Goodge: > > I've seen no evidence that this interpretation is correct. On what > > basis do you assert that this is Yahoo's policy? > > Experience, mostly. I've found that ceasing retry attempts for four > hours, then restarting, typically results in the queue clearing as fast > as you can

Re: Dead Destination configuration

2011-12-02 Thread Mark Goodge
On 02/12/2011 14:35, Viktor Dukhovni wrote: On Fri, Dec 02, 2011 at 02:23:53PM +, Mark Goodge wrote: That makes no sense at all, surely nothing more productive will happen when the spiggot is turned on 4 hours later with even more mail queued. The point is that "following instructions" is

OT: Yahoo spam load (was: Dead Destination configuration)

2011-12-02 Thread Wietse Venema
To get some idea of Yahoo spam load (and keyword trends) see http://visualize.yahoo.com/ and click the green buttons. Wietse

Re: Dead Destination configuration

2011-12-02 Thread Viktor Dukhovni
On Fri, Dec 02, 2011 at 02:23:53PM +, Mark Goodge wrote: > >That makes no sense at all, surely nothing more productive will happen > >when the spiggot is turned on 4 hours later with even more mail queued. > > The point is that "following instructions" is a reasonable proxy for > "being a leg

Re: Dead Destination configuration

2011-12-02 Thread Mark Goodge
On 02/12/2011 14:15, Viktor Dukhovni wrote: On Fri, Dec 02, 2011 at 08:24:29AM -0500, Wietse Venema wrote: There is no scenario in which a site that accepts your mail (i.e. has not classified you as a spammer, correctly or not) will offer better service if all your mail delayed by a few hours,

Re: Dead Destination configuration

2011-12-02 Thread Viktor Dukhovni
On Fri, Dec 02, 2011 at 08:24:29AM -0500, Wietse Venema wrote: > > There is no scenario in which a site that accepts your mail (i.e. > > has not classified you as a spammer, correctly or not) will offer > > better service if all your mail delayed by a few hours, that just > > time-warps the proble

Re: Dead Destination configuration

2011-12-02 Thread Wietse Venema
Viktor Dukhovni: > On Fri, Dec 02, 2011 at 11:37:02AM +0530, DN Singh wrote: > > > Yes, I am trying some workarounds, like rate delays, to address unusual > > traffic, and also joined their FBL for complainants. But, am still facing > > problems with some MTAs. > > Also, this only for Yahoo, there

Re: Dead Destination configuration

2011-12-02 Thread DN Singh
Okay. This means I was going in the wrong direction itself. Thank you guys, for making this clear. On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 5:49 PM, Viktor Dukhovni wrote: > On Fri, Dec 02, 2011 at 11:37:02AM +0530, DN Singh wrote: > > > Yes, I am trying some workarounds, like rate delays, to address unusual > >

Re: Dead Destination configuration

2011-12-02 Thread Viktor Dukhovni
On Fri, Dec 02, 2011 at 11:37:02AM +0530, DN Singh wrote: > Yes, I am trying some workarounds, like rate delays, to address unusual > traffic, and also joined their FBL for complainants. But, am still facing > problems with some MTAs. > Also, this only for Yahoo, there are others like hotmail, red

Re: Dead Destination configuration

2011-12-02 Thread Wietse Venema
DN Singh: > I will get more clear with an example: > > yahoo.com has different rejection codes, common of which is TS01. They say, > after TS01, you aren't supposed to attempt delivery for 4 hours. But, the Wietse: > According to "Yahoo! Postmaster Help Topics", TS01 means: > > * We are seeing unu

Re: Low Budget Backups

2011-12-02 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 02.12.2011 07:02, schrieb email builder: > No other people have systems for doing this? we are using http://dbmail.org/ behind postfix and a replication-slave if you have only one server you can setup a slave on a different port as 3306 on 127.0.0.1 benefit of the slave is that you can stop