Postfix should provide fingerprint, verify and secure levels inbound too (smtpd)

2014-07-11 Thread BlueStar88
Hey there, I just registered to this list, so sorry if that matter was already discussed in the past. My question/proposal is targeted at the developers of Postfix. Postfix in fact does already host-certificate checks in both directions/roles, which results in Trusted TLS connections

Re: Postfix should provide fingerprint, verify and secure levels inbound too (smtpd)

2014-07-11 Thread Robert Schetterer
Am 11.07.2014 11:10, schrieb BlueStar88: I'd like to setup a Trusted-only MTA for a special domain. if you have both servers under your control you may always cover con by vpn, and use special transport ,additional to postfix secure features Best Regards MfG Robert Schetterer -- [*] sys4 AG

Re: Postfix should provide fingerprint, verify and secure levels inbound too (smtpd)

2014-07-11 Thread BlueStar88
On Fri, 11 Jul 2014 11:29:11 +0200 Robert Schetterer r...@sys4.de wrote: Am 11.07.2014 11:10, schrieb BlueStar88: I'd like to setup a Trusted-only MTA for a special domain. if you have both servers under your control you may always cover con by vpn, and use special transport ,additional to

Re: Postfix should provide fingerprint, verify and secure levels inbound too (smtpd)

2014-07-11 Thread Robert Schetterer
Am 11.07.2014 11:53, schrieb BlueStar88: On Fri, 11 Jul 2014 11:29:11 +0200 Robert Schetterer r...@sys4.de wrote: Am 11.07.2014 11:10, schrieb BlueStar88: I'd like to setup a Trusted-only MTA for a special domain. if you have both servers under your control you may always cover con by

Re: Postfix should provide fingerprint, verify and secure levels inbound too (smtpd)

2014-07-11 Thread BlueStar88
On Fri, 11 Jul 2014 12:02:34 +0200 Robert Schetterer r...@sys4.de wrote: something like this ? relay_clientcerts (default: empty) List of tables with remote SMTP client-certificate fingerprints or public key fingerprints (Postfix 2.9 and later) for which the Postfix SMTP server will allow

Re: Postfix should provide fingerprint, verify and secure levels inbound too (smtpd)

2014-07-11 Thread Robert Schetterer
Am 11.07.2014 12:31, schrieb BlueStar88: On Fri, 11 Jul 2014 12:02:34 +0200 Robert Schetterer r...@sys4.de wrote: something like this ? relay_clientcerts (default: empty) List of tables with remote SMTP client-certificate fingerprints or public key fingerprints (Postfix 2.9 and

Re: Postfix should provide fingerprint, verify and secure levels inbound too (smtpd)

2014-07-11 Thread Viktor Dukhovni
On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 11:10:37AM +0200, BlueStar88 wrote: Postfix in fact does already host-certificate checks in both directions/roles, which results in Trusted TLS connections established from/to ... in the optimum case. What would the server do differently with a client certificate than

Re: Postfix should provide fingerprint, verify and secure levels inbound too (smtpd)

2014-07-11 Thread BlueStar88
On Fri, 11 Jul 2014 14:44:42 + Viktor Dukhovni postfix-us...@dukhovni.org wrote: On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 11:10:37AM +0200, BlueStar88 wrote: Postfix in fact does already host-certificate checks in both directions/roles, which results in Trusted TLS connections established from/to ... in

Re: Postfix should provide fingerprint, verify and secure levels inbound too (smtpd)

2014-07-11 Thread Wietse Venema
BlueStar88: for quite some while. I can see successful chain walks on inbound connections resulting in Trusted TLS connection established from. Trusted verifies the CA chain, not the client DNS name. With HTTP clients, the certificate name check confirms that the client has a TLS connection

Why lost connection after RCPT when we reject?

2014-07-11 Thread D'Arcy J.M. Cain
There's a new trick in the spammer's bag of tricks. Companies like strikeiron and briteverify are springing up promising to verify email addresses so that senders can limit sending invalid emails to MTAs and thus wind up on their suspicious sender list. I can't think of a single legitimate use

Re: Why lost connection after RCPT when we reject?

2014-07-11 Thread li...@rhsoft.net
Am 11.07.2014 21:02, schrieb D'Arcy J.M. Cain: There's a new trick in the spammer's bag of tricks. Companies like strikeiron and briteverify are springing up promising to verify email addresses so that senders can limit sending invalid emails to MTAs and thus wind up on their suspicious

Re: Why lost connection after RCPT when we reject?

2014-07-11 Thread D'Arcy J.M. Cain
On Fri, 11 Jul 2014 21:06:59 +0200 li...@rhsoft.net li...@rhsoft.net wrote: this message in at least three scenarios that I can see. One, someone sends email to an invalid address and we reject the balance of the session. Two, we reject the session because of an RBL. Three, someone is

Re: Why lost connection after RCPT when we reject?

2014-07-11 Thread li...@rhsoft.net
Am 11.07.2014 22:16, schrieb D'Arcy J.M. Cain: On Fri, 11 Jul 2014 21:06:59 +0200 li...@rhsoft.net li...@rhsoft.net wrote: this message in at least three scenarios that I can see. One, someone sends email to an invalid address and we reject the balance of the session. Two, we reject the

Re: Why lost connection after RCPT when we reject?

2014-07-11 Thread Noel Jones
On 7/11/2014 3:16 PM, D'Arcy J.M. Cain wrote: On Fri, 11 Jul 2014 21:06:59 +0200 li...@rhsoft.net li...@rhsoft.net wrote: this message in at least three scenarios that I can see. One, someone sends email to an invalid address and we reject the balance of the session. Two, we reject the

Re: Why lost connection after RCPT when we reject?

2014-07-11 Thread Wietse Venema
Noel Jones: [ Charset ISO-8859-1 converted... ] On 7/11/2014 3:16 PM, D'Arcy J.M. Cain wrote: On Fri, 11 Jul 2014 21:06:59 +0200 li...@rhsoft.net li...@rhsoft.net wrote: this message in at least three scenarios that I can see. One, someone sends email to an invalid address and we reject

Re: Why lost connection after RCPT when we reject?

2014-07-11 Thread Bill Cole
On 11 Jul 2014, at 16:16, D'Arcy J.M. Cain wrote: On Fri, 11 Jul 2014 21:06:59 +0200 li...@rhsoft.net li...@rhsoft.net wrote: this message in at least three scenarios that I can see. One, someone sends email to an invalid address and we reject the balance of the session. Two, we reject the

Re: How to use only flat-file for passwords when using non-system users for a hosted, virtual domain?

2014-07-11 Thread Arun
Thanks to everybody for the pointer to the good ideas and docs. I read everything and made some mistakes but I have it working with the flatfile style now! Thanks Arun On Wednesday, July 9, 2014 11:59 PM, Narcis Garcia informat...@actiu.net wrote: As I understood, Postfix can deliver

Many lookup types are available. What is the guide for choosing one or another?

2014-07-11 Thread Arun
I am installing my Postfix server. I am reading about the configuration options. I see that there are many formats to use for lookups. I see for exanple this ... smtpd_tls_session_cache_database = btree:/var/lib/postfix/smtpd_scache smtp_tls_session_cache_database =

Re: Many lookup types are available. What is the guide for choosing one or another?

2014-07-11 Thread Wietse Venema
Arun: I see that there are many formats to use for lookups. I see for exanple this ... smtpd_tls_session_cache_database = btree:/var/lib/postfix/smtpd_scache smtp_tls_session_cache_database = btree:/var/lib/postfix/smtp_scache alias_maps = hash:/etc/aliases ... in one example doc. I can

Re: Many lookup types are available. What is the guide for choosing one or another?

2014-07-11 Thread Arun
I suggest that you use what is shown the examples. I did use the Postfix documentation. Is it wrong to ask questions?  Is 'why' not allowable ? I guess it is because you say so! I have reading the mailing lists too and see you are the author.  Why are you always being such a mean old man to

Re: Many lookup types are available. What is the guide for choosing one or another?

2014-07-11 Thread Viktor Dukhovni
On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 05:45:30PM -0700, Arun wrote: I can understand that there ARE diferences? I do not understand when to use which one. It is conjectured that btree is perhaps better for random-access read-write databases where Postfix maintains an update cursor for cleanup of stale