Re: Outbound DKIM signing milter options for Postfix?

2018-10-11 Thread B. Reino
On 2018-10-11 04:08, pg...@dev-mail.net wrote: I'm setting up outbound DKIM signing for a Postfix instance. I'd prefer something other that OpenDKIM or Amavisd. Other than DIY, is there a solid/stable milter for outbound signing folks are successfully using with Postfix? Appreciate any referen

Renewal of Let's encrypt certs being used in postfix

2018-10-11 Thread Ignacio Garcia
Hi there. We just started using let's encrypt certs in our mail servers. Since renewal of the certs is done automatically, will postfix cope well with that or will we have to restart it after the renewal takes place? Thanks so much in advance for your help! Ignacio

Re: Renewal of Let's encrypt certs being used in postfix

2018-10-11 Thread Dominic Raferd
On Thu, 11 Oct 2018 at 09:08, Ignacio Garcia wrote: > Hi there. We just started using let's encrypt certs in our mail servers. > Since renewal of the certs is done automatically, will postfix cope well > with that or will we have to restart it after the renewal takes place? > Viktor answered thi

Re: Renewal of Let's encrypt certs being used in postfix

2018-10-11 Thread Olivier
Hello, > We just started using let's encrypt certs in our mail servers. Since renewal > of the certs is > done automatically, will postfix cope well with that or will we have to > restart it after the renewal > takes place? I do restart postfix. In fact, I do reboot the mail server as other pi

Re: Outbound DKIM signing milter options for Postfix?

2018-10-11 Thread Dominic Raferd
On Thu, 11 Oct 2018 at 08:49, B. Reino wrote: > On 2018-10-11 04:08, pg...@dev-mail.net wrote: > > I'm setting up outbound DKIM signing for a Postfix instance. > > > > I'd prefer something other that OpenDKIM or Amavisd. > > > > Other than DIY, is there a solid/stable milter for outbound signing

Re: Renewal of Let's encrypt certs being used in postfix

2018-10-11 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
We just started using let's encrypt certs in our mail servers. Since renewal of the certs is done automatically, will postfix cope well with that or will we have to restart it after the renewal takes place? On 11.10.18 15:14, Olivier wrote: I do restart postfix. In fact, I do reboot the mail

Re: Outbound DKIM signing milter options for Postfix?

2018-10-11 Thread Илья Шипицин
we use opendkim (somehow it does not crash for us, yes, I seen many unresolved issues). however, I'd like to raise another question :) opendkim is attached to postfix via milter. it is pain. under high load (when lots of marketing letters are sent) we have to choose between 1) if milter is unacce

Re: Outbound DKIM signing milter options for Postfix?

2018-10-11 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 11.10.18 13:35, Илья Шипицин wrote: we use opendkim (somehow it does not crash for us, yes, I seen many unresolved issues). however, I'd like to raise another question :) opendkim is attached to postfix via milter. it is pain. under high load (when lots of marketing letters are sent) we have

Re: Renewal of Let's encrypt certs being used in postfix

2018-10-11 Thread Ignacio Garcia
Sorry I could not read that message posted by Viktor. Probably I was not subscribed yet. Nevertheless, thanks for your answers. El jue., 11 oct. 2018 a las 10:14, Dominic Raferd () escribió: > On Thu, 11 Oct 2018 at 09:08, Ignacio Garcia wrote: > >> Hi there. We just started using let's encrypt

Re: Outbound DKIM signing milter options for Postfix?

2018-10-11 Thread Robert Schetterer
Am 11.10.2018 um 10:51 schrieb Matus UHLAR - fantomas: On 11.10.18 13:35, Илья Шипицин wrote: we use opendkim (somehow it does not crash for us, yes, I seen many unresolved issues). however, I'd like to raise another question :) opendkim is attached to postfix via milter. it is pain. under high

Re: Renewal of Let's encrypt certs being used in postfix

2018-10-11 Thread Ralph Seichter
On 11.10.18 11:01, Ignacio Garcia wrote: > Sorry I could not read that message posted by Viktor. Probably I was > not subscribed yet. The Postfix mailing list archives (http://www.postfix.org/lists.html) are a treasure trove of information. -Ralph

Re: Outbound DKIM signing milter options for Postfix?

2018-10-11 Thread Benny Pedersen
B. Reino skrev den 2018-10-11 09:48: I can recommend rspamd. The DKIM module is very flexible, supports multiple domains, etc. rspamd is a bit of overkill for dkim signing with well supported ucl its easy to configure it xml was hard to manage

Reminder DNSSEC Root KSK roll today

2018-10-11 Thread Viktor Dukhovni
In case you've not seen this many other places, just a friendly reminder that ICANN is rolling the DNSSEC root KSK today. Make sure your resolver (if it is validating) is ready. If you're forwarding queries to an upstream resolver, you might also check that the upstream is ready. -- V

Re: Outbound DKIM signing milter options for Postfix?

2018-10-11 Thread pg151
On Thu, Oct 11, 2018, at 12:48 AM, B. Reino wrote: > I can recommend rspamd. The DKIM module is very flexible, supports > multiple domains, etc. rspamd is in the same bucket as amavis from my perspective. I prefer a single-function/focus tool rather than a 'swiss-army knife' approach

Re: Outbound DKIM signing milter options for Postfix?

2018-10-11 Thread pg151
On Thu, Oct 11, 2018, at 2:37 AM, Robert Schetterer wrote: > http://dkimproxy.sourceforge.net/ "may" > help for this case In principle. Tho, not clear yet on whether I want/prefer a milter or proxy. Leaning to milter ... But last release in 2010-11-14 sounds 'pretty dead' to me!

Re: Outbound DKIM signing milter options for Postfix?

2018-10-11 Thread pg151
On Thu, Oct 11, 2018, at 1:21 AM, Dominic Raferd wrote: > I have had no problems with opendkim I didn't either. Do now. Consistent crashing whether distro-installed or DIY-builds. Crashes appear malloc related; reported to upstream. Unfortunately, LOTS of bugs there with very little, if a

postfix & TLS1.3 problems

2018-10-11 Thread A. Schulze
Hello, today I noticed a significant amount of TLS failures in my postfix log. Oct 11 17:43:35 mta postfix/smtpd[23847]: SSL_accept error from client.example[192.0.2.25]:34152: -1 I traced some sessions and found the problematic client is announcing the special cipher "TLS_FALLBACK_SCSV"

making unverified_recipient_reject_code safe for temp errors

2018-10-11 Thread Stefan Bauer
Dear Users, we have the following in place: smtpd_recipient_restrictions = reject_unknown_recipient_domain, reject_unverified_recipient unverified_recipient_reject_code = 550 unknown_address_reject_code = 550 today, we had an issue with our groupware so the following was happening: NOQUEUE: rej

Re: Reminder DNSSEC Root KSK roll today

2018-10-11 Thread Viktor Dukhovni
On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 11:24:13AM -0400, Viktor Dukhovni wrote: > In case you've not seen this many other places, just a friendly > reminder that ICANN is rolling the DNSSEC root KSK today. Make > sure your resolver (if it is validating) is ready. If you're > forwarding queries to an upstream r

Re: postfix & TLS1.3 problems

2018-10-11 Thread Viktor Dukhovni
On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 05:54:59PM +0200, A. Schulze wrote: > today I noticed a significant amount of TLS failures in my postfix log. > > Oct 11 17:43:35 mta postfix/smtpd[23847]: SSL_accept error from > client.example[192.0.2.25]:34152: -1 > > I traced some sessions and found the problematic

Odd "RENEGOTIATING" behavior when calling "RCPT TO" ?

2018-10-11 Thread Laura Smith
I've never seen this before, perhaps someone can throw light on it ? Postfix 3.3.1 >openssl s_client -connect test.example.com:587 -starttls smtp 250 DSN ehlo localhost 250-test.example.com 250-PIPELINING 250-SIZE 2048 250-ETRN 250-AUTH PLAIN 250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES 250-8BITMIME 250 DSN AUTH

Re: making unverified_recipient_reject_code safe for temp errors

2018-10-11 Thread Wietse Venema
Stefan Bauer: > Dear Users, > > we have the following in place: > > smtpd_recipient_restrictions = reject_unknown_recipient_domain, > reject_unverified_recipient > unverified_recipient_reject_code = 550 > unknown_address_reject_code = 550 > > today, we had an issue with our groupware so the foll

Re: Odd "RENEGOTIATING" behavior when calling "RCPT TO" ?

2018-10-11 Thread Wietse Venema
Laura Smith: > RCPT TO:t...@example.com > RENEGOTIATING Don't enter commands that start with R into OpenSSL. Wietse

Re: making unverified_recipient_reject_code safe for temp errors

2018-10-11 Thread Stefan Bauer
We just noticed, that senders got several "550 5.1.0 Address rejected" bounces even though postfix logs no permanent errors. Oct 11 17:19:13 kop01 postfix/lmtp[5711]: E759E301412: to=, relay=127.0.0.1[127.0.0.1]:2003, delay=13, delays=0/0.01/13/0, dsn=4.0.0, status=undeliverable (host 127.0.0.1[12

Re: postfix & TLS1.3 problems

2018-10-11 Thread Viktor Dukhovni
On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 05:54:59PM +0200, A. Schulze wrote: > Oct 11 17:43:35 mta postfix/smtpd[23847]: SSL_accept error from > client.example[192.0.2.25]:34152: -1 > > I traced some sessions and found the problematic client is announcing > the special cipher "TLS_FALLBACK_SCSV" > in a TLSv1.

Re: Reminder DNSSEC Root KSK roll today

2018-10-11 Thread pg151
On Thu, Oct 11, 2018, at 9:40 AM, Viktor Dukhovni wrote: > On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 11:24:13AM -0400, Viktor Dukhovni wrote: > > > In case you've not seen this many other places, just a friendly > > reminder that ICANN is rolling the DNSSEC root KSK today. Make > > sure your resolver (if it is

Re: Odd "RENEGOTIATING" behavior when calling "RCPT TO" ?

2018-10-11 Thread Laura Smith
On Thursday, October 11, 2018 6:15 PM, Wietse Venema wrote: > Laura Smith: > > > RCPT TO:t...@example.com > > RENEGOTIATING > > Don't enter commands that start with R into OpenSSL. > > Wietse Rats ! ;-) Well, I guess that makes sense.

Re: making unverified_recipient_reject_code safe for temp errors

2018-10-11 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
Stefan Bauer: we have the following in place: today, we had an issue with our groupware so the following was happening: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from unknown[ip]: 450 4.1.1 : Recipient address rejected: unverified address: Address verification in progress; from= to= proto=ESMTP helo= Oct 11 17:1

Re: Outbound DKIM signing milter options for Postfix?

2018-10-11 Thread Robert Schetterer
Am 11.10.2018 um 17:47 schrieb pg...@dev-mail.net: > On Thu, Oct 11, 2018, at 2:37 AM, Robert Schetterer wrote: >> http://dkimproxy.sourceforge.net/ "may" >> help for this case > > In principle. Tho, not clear yet on whether I want/prefer a milter or proxy. > Leaning to milter ... > > But last

Re: Odd "RENEGOTIATING" behavior when calling "RCPT TO" ?

2018-10-11 Thread Viktor Dukhovni
On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 01:15:02PM -0400, Wietse Venema wrote: > Laura Smith: > > RCPT TO:t...@example.com > > RENEGOTIATING > > Don't enter commands that start with R into OpenSSL. Lower-case 'r' works by the way. The OpenSSL 's_client' utility, is diagnostic tool for debugging SSL issues, not

Re: Reminder DNSSEC Root KSK roll today

2018-10-11 Thread Jim Reid
On 11 Oct 2018, at 18:27, pg...@dev-mail.net wrote: > > Changing my local dns (named) config to > > - dnssec-enable yes; > + dnssec-enable no; > dnssec-lookaside no; > - dnssec-validation yes; > + dnssec-validation no; > > ge

Re: Reminder DNSSEC Root KSK roll today

2018-10-11 Thread Viktor Dukhovni
On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 10:27:57AM -0700, pg...@dev-mail.net wrote: > Can you comment just a bit further on 'ready'? By "ready" I mean that it has a working "rfc5011" key rollover implementation, and so has already long added KSK2017 to its list of root trust anchors. Or alternatively, that some

Re: Reminder DNSSEC Root KSK roll today

2018-10-11 Thread Jamie Nelson
This may help https://www.icann.org/dns-resolvers-checking-current-trust-anchors Jamie October 11, 2018 11:59 AM, "Viktor Dukhovni" wrote: > On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 10:27:57AM -0700, pg...@dev-mail.net wrote: > >> Can you comment just a bit further on 'ready'? > > By "ready" I mean that it

Re: Reminder DNSSEC Root KSK roll today

2018-10-11 Thread pg151
On Thu, Oct 11, 2018, at 10:53 AM, Jim Reid wrote: > Although switching off DNSSEC validation will keep the mail flowing, it > only kludges around the underlying problem. Which might or might not be > related to the rollover of the root KSK a few hours ago. It’s hard to > tell from the inform

Re: Reminder DNSSEC Root KSK roll today

2018-10-11 Thread pg151
On Thu, Oct 11, 2018, at 10:58 AM, Viktor Dukhovni wrote: > This does not look like a forwarder problem, your own trusted key > list is not up to date. Either it is manually maintained, or > automated updates are failing (perhaps permission problems to update > the files, the keys need to be wr

Re: Reminder DNSSEC Root KSK roll today

2018-10-11 Thread pg151
On Thu, Oct 11, 2018, at 11:03 AM, Jamie Nelson wrote: > https://www.icann.org/dns-resolvers-checking-current-trust-anchors was JUST looking for that! thx.

Re: Outbound DKIM signing milter options for Postfix?

2018-10-11 Thread B. Reino
On Thu, 11 Oct 2018, Benny Pedersen wrote: B. Reino skrev den 2018-10-11 09:48: I can recommend rspamd. The DKIM module is very flexible, supports multiple domains, etc. rspamd is a bit of overkill for dkim signing If you only want DKIM signing, then yes. In my case, rspamd does DKIM sign

Re: Reminder DNSSEC Root KSK roll today

2018-10-11 Thread Jim Reid
> On 11 Oct 2018, at 19:07, pg...@dev-mail.net wrote: > >> The switch to the new KSK seems the most likely cause, assuming DNSSEC >> validation always worked for you before then. > > It's been 'working' for ages. Yes, I could have been 'just lucky for a long > time'. DNSSEC is very brittl

Re: making unverified_recipient_reject_code safe for temp errors

2018-10-11 Thread Wietse Venema
Stefan Bauer: > We just noticed, that senders got several "550 5.1.0 Address rejected" > bounces even though postfix logs no permanent errors. > > Oct 11 17:19:13 kop01 postfix/lmtp[5711]: E759E301412: to=, > relay=127.0.0.1[127.0.0.1]:2003, delay=13, delays=0/0.01/13/0, dsn=4.0.0, > status=undeli

Re: Odd "RENEGOTIATING" behavior when calling "RCPT TO" ?

2018-10-11 Thread Laura Smith
On Thursday, October 11, 2018 6:51 PM, Viktor Dukhovni wrote: > On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 01:15:02PM -0400, Wietse Venema wrote: > > > Laura Smith: > > > > > RCPT TO:t...@example.com > > > RENEGOTIATING > > > > Don't enter commands that start with R into OpenSSL. > > Lower-case 'r' works by the wa

Re: Reminder DNSSEC Root KSK roll today

2018-10-11 Thread Bill Cole
On 11 Oct 2018, at 14:07, pg...@dev-mail.net wrote: Isn't 'hardwired' here afaict. Looking at the ICANN site -- again -- is probably best advice. Since you're running BIND, https://kb.isc.org/docs/aa-01182 might be more specifically helpful, although I'm not sure that you can recover from t

Re: Reminder DNSSEC Root KSK roll today

2018-10-11 Thread pg151
On Thu, Oct 11, 2018, at 2:33 PM, Bill Cole wrote: > > Isn't 'hardwired' here afaict. Looking at the ICANN site -- again -- > > is probably best advice. > > Since you're running BIND, https://kb.isc.org/docs/aa-01182 might be > more specifically helpful, although I'm not sure that you can recov

Re: Reminder DNSSEC Root KSK roll today

2018-10-11 Thread Viktor Dukhovni
On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 03:44:56PM -0700, pg...@dev-mail.net wrote: > resolver's up, running & working now, as least as verified with the usual > > dig @127.0.0.1 dnssec-failed.org a +dnssec > > not clear if all of that^ was needed, but it apparently did the trick. > > thanks all. Check the

Re: Reminder DNSSEC Root KSK roll today

2018-10-11 Thread pg151
On Thu, Oct 11, 2018, at 3:51 PM, Viktor Dukhovni wrote: > Check the user "named" runs as after chroot and dropping privs has > write permissions to update the root trust-anchor file (may need > write permissions to the containing directory to make the update > atomic). thanks! I _think_ I'm set

Re: making unverified_recipient_reject_code safe for temp errors

2018-10-11 Thread Stefan Bauer
But what was postfix reporting to the Appliance that tried to deliver to postfix? The 421 is what postfix got from the groupware. Not what it was reporting to the deliverer. Our setup is appliance -> Postfix -> Groupware. The appliance bounced several mails with a 550 5.1.0 Address rejected. Am

How do I best get SMTP statements logged ?

2018-10-11 Thread K F
Is it by using debug? How do I set it best to get the smtp statements and their responses?