Re: nobody is going to write a new MTA

2009-05-29 Thread Jordi Espasa Clofent
mouss escribió: the OpenBSD guys take this a bit too aggressively. on the other hand, this approach has resulted in good software (the so-called OpenBSD pf is a good example, although the story was special). Well, I would say 'coherently instead of 'aggressively' +info:

nobody is going to write a new MTA

2009-05-28 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt
Turns out Wietse was wrong: http://lwn.net/SubscriberLink/334866/fffe7b1a0716c0e4/ -- Ralf Hildebrandt Postfix - Einrichtung, Betrieb und Wartung Tel. +49 (0)30-450 570-155 http://www.computerbeschimpfung.de I have never seen anything fill up a vacuum so fast and still suck. -- Rob Pike,

Re: nobody is going to write a new MTA

2009-05-28 Thread John Peach
On Thu, 28 May 2009 11:56:38 +0200 Ralf Hildebrandt ralf.hildebra...@charite.de wrote: Turns out Wietse was wrong: http://lwn.net/SubscriberLink/334866/fffe7b1a0716c0e4/ All political; no real rational reasoning for it -- John

Re: nobody is going to write a new MTA

2009-05-28 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt
Turns out Wietse was wrong: http://lwn.net/SubscriberLink/334866/fffe7b1a0716c0e4/ All political; no real rational reasoning for it I know, but still worth an informational message -- Ralf Hildebrandt Postfix - Einrichtung, Betrieb und Wartung Tel. +49 (0)30-450 570-155

Re: nobody is going to write a new MTA

2009-05-28 Thread Marcio Merlone
John Peach escreveu: On Thu, 28 May 2009 11:56:38 +0200 Ralf Hildebrandt ralf.hildebra...@charite.de wrote: Turns out Wietse was wrong: http://lwn.net/SubscriberLink/334866/fffe7b1a0716c0e4/ All political; no real rational reasoning for it I see no technical reason, but

Re: nobody is going to write a new MTA

2009-05-28 Thread Miles Fidelman
John Peach wrote: On Thu, 28 May 2009 11:56:38 +0200 Ralf Hildebrandt ralf.hildebra...@charite.de wrote: Turns out Wietse was wrong: http://lwn.net/SubscriberLink/334866/fffe7b1a0716c0e4/ All political; no real rational reasoning for it I'm not sure I would characterize a

Re: nobody is going to write a new MTA

2009-05-28 Thread Wietse Venema
Marcio Merlone: John Peach escreveu: On Thu, 28 May 2009 11:56:38 +0200 Ralf Hildebrandt ralf.hildebra...@charite.de wrote: Turns out Wietse was wrong: http://lwn.net/SubscriberLink/334866/fffe7b1a0716c0e4/ All political; no real rational reasoning for it I see no

Re: nobody is going to write a new MTA

2009-05-28 Thread Marcio Merlone
Wietse Venema escreveu: (...) Apart from that, if they come up with a decent MTA then I welcome some competition. More motivation for me to look into postfix-lite. That would be great, I have some servers wich sends nothing but administrative mails to me, logcheck, crontab, such annoying

Simple mail submission tool was Re: nobody is going to write a new MTA

2009-05-28 Thread Simon Waters
On Thursday 28 May 2009 14:41:30 Marcio Merlone wrote: That would be great, I have some servers wich sends nothing but administrative mails to me, logcheck, crontab, such annoying things. They need nothing more than a bare bones MTA wich is able to send mails to a relay host. Debian has

Re: nobody is going to write a new MTA

2009-05-28 Thread Victor Duchovni
On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 10:41:30AM -0300, Marcio Merlone wrote: Wietse Venema escreveu: (...) Apart from that, if they come up with a decent MTA then I welcome some competition. More motivation for me to look into postfix-lite. That would be great, I have some servers wich sends nothing

Re: nobody is going to write a new MTA

2009-05-28 Thread LuKreme
On 28 May 2009, at 03:56, Ralf Hildebrandt ralf.hildebra...@charite.de wrote: Turns out Wietse was wrong: http://lwn.net/SubscriberLink/334866/fffe7b1a0716c0e4/ Would it be approriate to ask what the issues are with postfix's license? I hate to admit it, but I've never read it.

Re: nobody is going to write a new MTA

2009-05-28 Thread Wietse Venema
Victor Duchovni: On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 10:41:30AM -0300, Marcio Merlone wrote: Wietse Venema escreveu: (...) Apart from that, if they come up with a decent MTA then I welcome some competition. More motivation for me to look into postfix-lite. That would be great, I have some

Re: nobody is going to write a new MTA

2009-05-28 Thread mouss
LuKreme a écrit : On 28 May 2009, at 03:56, Ralf Hildebrandt ralf.hildebra...@charite.de wrote: Turns out Wietse was wrong: http://lwn.net/SubscriberLink/334866/fffe7b1a0716c0e4/ Would it be approriate to ask what the issues are with postfix's license? I hate to admit it, but I've never

Re: nobody is going to write a new MTA

2009-05-28 Thread brian moore
On Thu, 28 May 2009 09:12:28 -0600 LuKreme krem...@kreme.com wrote: On 28 May 2009, at 03:56, Ralf Hildebrandt ralf.hildebra...@charite.de wrote: Turns out Wietse was wrong: http://lwn.net/SubscriberLink/334866/fffe7b1a0716c0e4/ Would it be approriate to ask what the issues are with

Re: nobody is going to write a new MTA

2009-05-28 Thread Roger Marquis
mouss wrote: but if you distribute a system that will be used by commercial vendors, things get different. and they are complex because it's not about your interpretation of the license, but about possible interpretations by the vendors/resellers/customers. Which is, interestingly enough, a

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2009-05-28 Thread Victor Duchovni
On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 07:00:43PM -0700, Roger Marquis wrote: mouss wrote: but if you distribute a system that will be used by commercial vendors, things get different. and they are complex because it's not about your interpretation of the license, but about possible interpretations by the