Re: LF; SW to communicate between two Macs

2004-08-29 Thread George Mogiljansky
Impressive; needs study. Never seen on SwapList. Please note: Quote.. ..Compatibility with PowerBooks® is limited and may require dock, adapter or external keyboard.. Best George --- Andrew Kershaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: some fancy dan dongle that attaches to the ADB port (?) and restarts

Re: LF; SW to communicate between two Macs - No Data Transfer Despite Connection

2004-08-28 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Friday, August 27, 2004, at 08:37 PM, George Mogiljansky wrote: Here are a few thoughts as to why there is no data transfer: The connection ( the two modems handshake, all SW settings are working, no error messages) is stable (no interrupts!) at 31,200 for the calling Mac and 28,000 for the

Re: LF; SW to communicate between two Macs - an Olympic record!

2004-08-28 Thread Andrew Kershaw
I am able to dial-in from one Mac to another (using OS 9, the built-in server and client). Ah, catch-22! (That's some catch, that catch-22). Digital Radar, as has been pointed out already by Brian, won't work under 9.x. That's not a problem if you go with EvoCam (CoolCam). It's $20 shareware.

Re: LF; SW to communicate between two Macs - an Olympic record!

2004-08-28 Thread George Mogiljansky
Hello Drew, Bruce and Brian (taking the weekend off?), Trouble is, the webcam SW (EvoCam and Oculus) only operate if AppleTalk is turned off. Both file sharing and using AppleShare require AppleTalk on. See the following quote from Apple: Quote.. This article explains why you Connected Via Apple

Re: LF; SW to communicate between two Macs - an Olympic record!

2004-08-28 Thread Brian
Hello Drew, Bruce and Brian (taking the weekend off?), Trouble is, the webcam SW (EvoCam and Oculus) only operate if AppleTalk is turned off. Both file sharing and using AppleShare require AppleTalk on. See the following quote from Apple: that's... annoying! DigitalRadar will work with Appletalk

Re: LF; SW to communicate between two Macs - an Olympic record!

2004-08-28 Thread Brian
I am able to dial-in from one Mac to another (using OS 9, the built-in server and client). Ah, catch-22! (That's some catch, that catch-22). Digital Radar, as has been pointed out already by Brian, won't work under 9.x. That's not a problem if you go with EvoCam (CoolCam). It's $20 shareware.

Re: LF; SW to communicate between two Macs - an Olympic record!

2004-08-28 Thread Brian
On Saturday, August 28, 2004, at 01:34 PM, Brian wrote: Tried that out with your new working ARA server? (that's cool that works, I'll use that in future!) OK, George, I misread part of your earlier email- you updated the 3400 to 9.x, right, so the ARA server/client would work. Correct? OR

Re: LF; SW to communicate between two Macs - an Olympic record!

2004-08-28 Thread Ken
My Reply follows quote. On 28/08/2004 10:35 [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I am able to dial-in from one Mac to another (using OS 9, the built-in server and client). Ah, catch-22! (That's some catch, that catch-22). Digital Radar, as has been pointed out already by Brian, won't work under 9.x.

Re: LF; SW to communicate between two Macs - an Olympic record!

2004-08-28 Thread George Mogiljansky
Hi Brian, Yes, I pared down OS 9 to less than 90 megs for the 3400 with only a 160 Meg HDD (and it's slow!). I tried to retain the OS 8.6 sys folder but no go because on a back-up desktop I tried to copy OS 9 extensions and CPs for ARA (don't do this at home:)). Bad move, the ARA on the desktop

Re: LF; SW to communicate between two Macs

2004-08-28 Thread Dan K
George and everyone else following this series of threads, how about dumping the entire idea of remote access and just use a big HD to record everything until you are able to resume physical access? For example, a 10gb HD ought to cost under $50 these days and can hold quite alot of captured

Re: LF; SW to communicate between two Macs

2004-08-28 Thread George Mogiljansky
Hi Dan, I just made an offer for the first version of the ADS PCMCIA card. If it fits in the 3400, perhaps my Kensington webcam will serve me better. I wonder how much power the cam needs, length of USB cable usable, etc. Also, I could set up a 68k Mac with the Connectix grayscale as a back-up,

Re: LF; SW to communicate between two Macs

2004-08-28 Thread Andrew Kershaw
some fancy dan dongle that attaches to the ADB port (?) and restarts the machine after a power failure (anybody ever heard of these? - Drew seems to know about them). Hmm. Take a look at this: http://lowendmac.com/lab/02/0523.html and this: http://www.sophisticated.com/products/powercontrol.html

Re: LF; SW to communicate between two Macs using phone line (modem)

2004-08-27 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Thursday, August 26, 2004, at 06:15 PM, George Mogiljansky wrote: That's awesome. And in my case, slow is good. Less chance of a broken connection, right? Well, I meant slow as in modem speeds, not native local talk which is around (iirc) 170 kb/sec. Modem connection stability is largely

Re: LF; SW to communicate between two Macs - an Olympic record!

2004-08-27 Thread George Mogiljansky
It's an Olympic record! I am able to dial-in from one Mac to another (using OS 9, the built-in server and client). One problem; I clicked on Chooser and AppleShare...but the Mac could not see , i.e. choose any files to look at because none appeared. I am in a rush because borrowing parents' phone

Re: LF; SW to communicate between two Macs - No Data Transfer Despite Connection

2004-08-27 Thread George Mogiljansky
Here are a few thoughts as to why there is no data transfer: The connection ( the two modems handshake, all SW settings are working, no error messages) is stable (no interrupts!) at 31,200 for the calling Mac and 28,000 for the 'server' Mac. Even the Network Browser (which I'm not supposed to

Re: LF; SW to communicate between two Macs using phone line (modem)

2004-08-26 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Wednesday, August 25, 2004, at 06:11 PM, Brian wrote: I forgot to mention this: On the Mac placing the call (the one in the field), you need to set AppleTalk to Remote Only. Thereafter, you can use AppleShare in the Chooser to view your Mac network as you normally would if you had a direct

Re: LF; SW to communicate between two Macs using phone line (modem)

2004-08-26 Thread George Mogiljansky
But you still need the remote machine to dial-up and then you need the IP #, right? George --- Bruce Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The server stuff let you connect multiple clients simultaneously. The built-in client (after OS 7.,5, I think) has always allowed a single incoming

Re: LF; SW to communicate between two Macs using phone line (modem)

2004-08-26 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Aug 26, 2004, at 1:24 PM, George Mogiljansky wrote: But you still need the remote machine to dial-up and then you need the IP #, right? George No, this doesn't involve TCP/IP at all. Mac 1--Phone ===[giant phone system]===Phone--Mac 2 All done with apple talk, it's like connecting two slow

Re: LF; SW to communicate between two Macs using phone line (modem)

2004-08-26 Thread Brian
On Wednesday, August 25, 2004, at 06:11 PM, Brian wrote: I forgot to mention this: On the Mac placing the call (the one in the field), you need to set AppleTalk to Remote Only. Thereafter, you can use AppleShare in the Chooser to view your Mac network as you normally would if you had a direct

Re: LF; SW to communicate between two Macs using phone line (modem)

2004-08-26 Thread George Mogiljansky
Thanks, Brian, I have done some research and will report in a few days. Questions: can an ISP allow for two simultaneous connections using the same user ID and password? I can 'split' the usage between dial-up and ADSL, if nec. or possible. Still not sure what I can do about finding the IP #

Re: LF; SW to communicate between two Macs using phone line (modem)

2004-08-26 Thread George Mogiljansky
That's awesome. And in my case, slow is good. Less chance of a broken connection, right? George --- Bruce Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 26, 2004, at 1:24 PM, George Mogiljansky wrote: But you still need the remote machine to dial-up and then you need the IP #, right? George

Re: LF; SW to communicate between two Macs using phone line (modem)

2004-08-26 Thread Brian
On Thursday, August 26, 2004, at 09:12 PM, George Mogiljansky wrote: Still not sure what I can do about finding the IP # of the server. Maybe the freewares Mac2Mac or MacVNC, or perhaps ShareWay IP which I did install today on the 3400 using OS 8.6 have a solution. MacVNC is a dog, don't even try

Re: LF; SW to communicate between two Macs using phone line (modem)

2004-08-25 Thread Andrew Kershaw
(Everyone please excuse the cross-post, but George x-posted to both lists originally.) George, Open the Mac OS Help (Help Viewer) in OS 9. Type in remote access in the search field. Look around a bit and you'll see: Providing dial-in access to your computer In addition to using your modem to

Re: LF; SW to communicate between two Macs using phone line (modem)

2004-08-25 Thread Andrew Kershaw
Providing dial-in access to your computer In addition to using your modem to connect to other computers or networks, you can use it to give yourself or others remote access to your computer. When another user is connected, they can access shared files as if you were both connected to the same

Re: LF; SW to communicate between two Macs using phone line (modem)

2004-08-25 Thread Brian
I forgot to mention this: On the Mac placing the call (the one in the field), you need to set AppleTalk to Remote Only. Thereafter, you can use AppleShare in the Chooser to view your Mac network as you normally would if you had a direct connection. All this ARA provider stuff works in 8.6? I

Re: LF; SW to communicate between two Macs using phone line (modem)

2004-08-25 Thread Andrew Kershaw
All this ARA provider stuff works in 8.6? I thought it was still purchase-only at that time (for server). That's easier than getting setup over a 3rd party provider then (via PPP), then. B Well, the Mac placing the call just needs OS 8, as far as I know. I've been doing this on-and-off for 6-7