On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 8:56 PM, Luís Oliveira wrote:
> My question is: if you're going to load all of the application's
> FASLs, what difference does it make that you loaded a dumped image
> with some previous version of the application? What am I missing?
What I was missing is that when you dum
My question is: if you're going to load all of the application's
FASLs,
You're not. load-system (or compile-system with :load t) will do the
minimum it has to and leave the rest alone.
what difference does it make that you loaded a dumped image
with some previous version of th
People are beginning to complain that the pro@ list is becoming
similar to comp.lang.lisp, and there also have been several
unsubscriptions today and yesterday. Can this topic please be put to
a rest or taken where it belongs?
Thanks,
Hans
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On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 7:50 PM, Raffael Cavallaro
wrote:
> I'm sure Martin Simmons of LispWorks will correct me if I'm mistaken here,
> but LW's
> defsystem can be used to load lisp code, and/or compile and load lisp code,
> and/or
> load precompiled fasls, so it spans the whole range.
My ques
On Jan 21, 2011, at 12:06 PM, Luís Oliveira wrote:
> I'm not familiar with the details of LW's defsystem. How is this
> different from loading the application from fasls, speed-wise?
I'm sure Martin Simmons of LispWorks will correct me if I'm mistaken here, but
LW's defsystem can be used to lo
On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 8:34 PM, Nick Levine wrote:
>> I can't find any libraries.
>
> I think this is one of the most serious issues which is blocking the
> growth of lisp use. Speaking as someone who recently gave up trying to
> write a book on how to use CL's libraries: locating them and knowin
Using (string-count-str (get-url-as-string
"http://docs.python.org/py3k/modindex.html";) "#module")
I show that there are 291 projects listed on that python page.
But (string-count-str (get-url-as-string
""http://common-lisp.net/projects.shtml";) "/project/")
tells me that there are 416 project
Pascal Costanza wrote:
> On 21 Jan 2011, at 21:00, Zach Beane wrote:
>
>> That's one of the reasons why it's still in beta. I need to gather
>> useful, descriptive info about each project and make it easily
>> available.
>
> What would you recommend to the library providers to make this job easier
Not to sound like I'm complaining (quicklisp is awesome btw), but if
http://www.quicklisp.org/beta/releases.html had descriptions of what the
packages actually did (or links to their respective homepage, or docstrings,
or something), that would be wonderful.
On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 2:47 PM, Zach B
I have been a beginner lisp developer for years largely because the is just
a large problem with answering the question "I want to make a website, but
what a pain to figure
out where to start", I want to X. I would be down to contribute.
This lisp learning curve is large, and figuring out the exa
On 21 Jan 2011, at 21:00, Zach Beane wrote:
> "Drew Csillag (sounds like cheese-log)" writes:
>
>> Not to sound like I'm complaining (quicklisp is awesome btw), but if http://
>> www.quicklisp.org/beta/releases.html had descriptions of what the packages
>> actually did (or links to their respec
Hi,
I just wanted to report on a little success story.
In the recent few months, I have been working on a new project that concerns
itself with parallel programming. For that purpose, I experimented with
variations of a home-grown work-stealing scheduler. (See
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cilk
Nick Levine writes:
>We're getting there. See http://www.quicklisp.org/
>
>Especially, see http://www.quicklisp.org/beta/releases.html
>
> It doesn't say what any one of them do. There's no way (am I right?)
> to look up form what I want to do to what exists to do it.
Very true, and some
"Drew Csillag (sounds like cheese-log)" writes:
> Not to sound like I'm complaining (quicklisp is awesome btw), but if http://
> www.quicklisp.org/beta/releases.html had descriptions of what the packages
> actually did (or links to their respective homepage, or docstrings, or
> something), that w
We're getting there. See http://www.quicklisp.org/
Especially, see http://www.quicklisp.org/beta/releases.html
It doesn't say what any one of them do. There's no way (am I right?)
to look up form what I want to do to what exists to do it.
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Nick Levine writes:
>> I can't find any libraries.
>
> I think this is one of the most serious issues which is blocking the
> growth of lisp use. Speaking as someone who recently gave up trying to
> write a book on how to use CL's libraries: locating them and knowing
> in advance of downloading t
On 21 Jan 2011, at 20:34, Nick Levine wrote:
>> I can't find any libraries.
>
> I think this is one of the most serious issues which is blocking the
> growth of lisp use. Speaking as someone who recently gave up trying to
> write a book on how to use CL's libraries: locating them and knowing
> i
> I can't find any libraries.
I think this is one of the most serious issues which is blocking the
growth of lisp use. Speaking as someone who recently gave up trying to
write a book on how to use CL's libraries: locating them and knowing
in advance of downloading them what their purpose is are ma
Quoting Vladimir Sedach :
> 2. There are no libraries to do /I can't find any libraries.
It may sound shocking, but there's non-programmers out there who
complain if there isn't a free-as-in-beer application to do what they
want. This argument is the programmer corollary. It always appears to
me
On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 11:37 AM, Nick Levine wrote:
> (defun application-load (&key compile-only)
> (let ((defsys (truename (relative-path "code/defsys.lisp"
> (load defsys))
> (compile-system "PROFILER-PLUS" :load (not compile-only)
> :force (find "-force" sys:*line-arg
On Jan 21, 2011, at 2:40, Tord Romstad wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 10:22 PM, karol skocik wrote:
>> Some time ago, I tried to communicate on IRC channel about a very,
>> very simple addition:
>> string+, which is obviously a nice, small name for (apply
>> #'concatenate 'string strings).
>
>
On Jan 21, 2011, at 8:43 AM, Erik Winkels wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 07:48:50AM -0500, Daniel Weinreb wrote:
>>
>> Our utility library calls it "strcat". I think string-concat is
>> probaby better.
I picked 'strcat' as a nod to C, but I wholeheartedly fall into
the Dave Moon camp: more d
On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 07:48:50AM -0500, Daniel Weinreb wrote:
>
> Our utility library calls it "strcat". I think string-concat is
> probaby better.
>
> Dave Moon established the general ethic on the Lisp machine of using
> longer, clearer names in general.
I generally prefer more descriptive (
On 1/21/11 6:01 AM, Svante Carl v. Erichsen wrote:
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> Hi!
>
> I should call it string-conc, conc-string, or conc->string. I should
> not expect from first sight that either, string+ or string*, would
> concatenate. From those names, it also would
> On Thu, 20 Jan 2011 23:47:55 -0500, Vladimir Sedach said:
>
> Is there a portable way to create a simple-style-warning condition
> that when signaled with WARN won't cause SLIME to claim that file
> compilation failed, that works for all/most CL implementations?
>
> I'm trying to use this:
"Svante Carl v. Erichsen" writes:
> Hi!
>
> I should call it string-conc, conc-string, or conc->string. I should
> not expect from first sight that either, string+ or string*, would
> concatenate. From those names, it also would seem surprising that
> they can take any sequences, not just strin
I didn't really about the name that much (unless it's overly verbose).
The problem I tried to mention was the attitude of other developers to
such a simple addition.
Karol
On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 12:39 PM, Tord Romstad wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 12:01 PM, Svante Carl v. Erichsen
> wrote:
On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 12:01 PM, Svante Carl v. Erichsen
wrote:
>
> I should call it string-conc, conc-string, or conc->string.
I actually agree. What I meant is that if you really want to use a
mathematical operator for this, multiplication is the natural choice.
Your suggestions above -- at le
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Hello Nick,
On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 10:03 AM, Nick Levine wrote:
> Development uses images which are primed to check that the system
> is up to date (and to correct that as appropriate) on
> startu
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Hi!
I should call it string-conc, conc-string, or conc->string. I should
not expect from first sight that either, string+ or string*, would
concatenate. From those names, it also would seem surprising that
they can take any sequences, not just strin
Hello Nick,
On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 10:03 AM, Nick Levine wrote:
> Development uses images which are primed to check that the system is
> up to date (and to correct that as appropriate) on startup. That way
> we get rapid startup but everything compiled up to date.
Can you describe in more detai
On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 10:22 PM, karol skocik wrote:
> Some time ago, I tried to communicate on IRC channel about a very,
> very simple addition:
> string+, which is obviously a nice, small name for (apply
> #'concatenate 'string strings).
Pet peeve: string+ is a *small* name, but it is not a *n
(Sorry I haven't yet had time to read other responses: am on the road
and buried under both 6 inches of Ohio snow and an end month
deadline. So apologies if I'm restating other people.)
I'm both.
Development uses images which are primed to check that the system is
up to date (and to correct that
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