Re: ASDF debugging on Hangouts?

OK, I'm setting the day and time for the next ASDF debugging session to Tuesday January 2nd 2018 at 14:00 EST (19:00 UTC). Please send me a private email if you can make it, I'll add you to a Google Calendar event with a Hangout invitation. —♯ƒ • François-René ÐVB Rideau •Reflection&Cybernethics•

Re: ASDF debugging on Hangouts?

In the future, when debugging something like this, where the environment into which you are loading code is of critical importance, and an ASDF issue is suspected, I suggest the following: On the various implementations, do whatever you need to do to prepare to load the system that exhibits th

Re: ASDF debugging on Hangouts?

whoops - one more: - how best to notify the user when dist-provided local-projects "shadow" systems which are provided by a dist (happened a few times to me when quicklisp began to include a system that I had previously downloaded as source into local-projects) -jm On Wed, Dec 27, 2

Re: ASDF debugging on Hangouts?

FWIW a prototype GUI for quicklisp that clarified some of these dist/release/system issues for me (also ASDF systems vs quicklisp systems)... Perhaps it could be of some utility, especially for newbies... Am interested in feedback b

Re: ASDF debugging on Hangouts?

There can be more than one dist, but "quicklisp" names essentially the default dist. There are others - http://bodge.borodust.org/dist/org.borodust.bodge.txt for example has a dist named "org.borodust.bodge" that has trivial-gamekit software. You can install it with (ql:install-dist " http://bodge.

Re: One annoyance of ensure-generic-function-using-class

Pascal Costanza wrote: > ensure-generic-function is the functional version of the defgeneric > macro, and is supposed to behave the same way. Makes sense. Thanks. -- Resistance is futile. You will be jazzimilated. Lisp, Jazz, Aïkido: http://www.didierverna.info

Re: ASDF debugging on Hangouts?

Oh, wow: update-all-dists *does* update all dists. Yes, big hammer. Not sure I get the naming here: (ql:update-dist "quicklisp"). Could that be update-current-dist, taking no params? What values other than "quicklisp" make sense. Meanwhile, I (again belatedly) looked at http://cliki.net/Quicklisp

Re: ASDF debugging on Hangouts?

Thanks, I updated that section. Zach On Wed, Dec 27, 2017 at 10:40 AM, Luís Oliveira wrote: > On Wed, Dec 27, 2017 at 3:30 PM, Zach Beane wrote: > > I don't recommend using update-all-dists as the default. I prefer to > > recommend (ql:update-dist "quicklisp"), which updates all projects in th

Re: ASDF debugging on Hangouts?

On Wed, Dec 27, 2017 at 10:30 AM, Zach Beane wrote: > I don't recommend using update-all-dists as the default. I prefer to > recommend (ql:update-dist "quicklisp"), which updates all projects > in the quicklsp dist. ​​Oh, that’s interesting, and, at least for me, news. Might it be worth updating

Re: ASDF debugging on Hangouts?

On Wed, Dec 27, 2017 at 3:30 PM, Zach Beane wrote: > I don't recommend using update-all-dists as the default. I prefer to > recommend (ql:update-dist "quicklisp"), which updates all projects in the > quicklsp dist. Perhaps this instruction in could

Re: ASDF debugging on Hangouts?

I don't recommend using update-all-dists as the default. I prefer to recommend (ql:update-dist "quicklisp"), which updates all projects in the quicklsp dist. There can be multiple dists installed, and update-all-dists calls update-dist on all of them. See blog.quicklisp.org for news about what is

Re: ASDF debugging on Hangouts?

Thanks, Luis! I noticed update-all-dists too late, not sure how I missed it. I bravely attempted (ql:update :cffi) but of course no luck, I guess because you are saying: A > dist is, among other things, a list of URLs pointing to project > snapshots that are known to work well with each other. ​

Re: One annoyance of ensure-generic-function-using-class

Hi, > On 27 Dec 2017, at 12:50, Didier Verna wrote: > > > Hello, > > there is something annoying with > ensure-generic-function-using-class. The MOP specifies that if the > :generic-function-class option is not provided, it defaults to > standard-generic-function. While this makes perfect sen

One annoyance of ensure-generic-function-using-class

Hello, there is something annoying with ensure-generic-function-using-class. The MOP specifies that if the :generic-function-class option is not provided, it defaults to standard-generic-function. While this makes perfect sense when the generic function doesn't already exist, it seems to also a

Re: ASDF debugging on Hangouts?

On Tue, Dec 26, 2017 at 7:43 PM, Ken Tilton wrote: > But I am curious, I will first try to see why uninstall did not work. When you first install Quicklisp, it will download the latest dist. A dist is, among other things, a list of URLs pointing to project snapshots that are known to work well wi