RE: Brought to you by the people who gave you IE

2009-09-29 Thread Allen
Maybe it's because they are not so popular hence no point in attacking. Al -Original Message- I don't think that anyone would be naive enough to claim that any networked computer would be "immune" to an attack. But the point is that *nix was designed from the outset to be a n

Re: Brought to you by the people who gave you IE

2009-09-29 Thread Paul McNett
Geoff wrote: > granted... but in the connected world, an unconnected computer loses so much > of its value thus reinforcing my point that security can only be obtained by > reducing its effectiveness a great deal. I dunno. Look at Linux and Mac. They are effective and have much better track recor

Re: Brought to you by the people who gave you IE

2009-09-29 Thread Ajoy Khaund
Yep maybe we should connect the AV when we are on the internet or something. Regards Ajoy Khaund Neamati Road Near Bhogdoi Bridge Jorhat 785001-21 Assam, India Tel: 91-376-2351288 Cell: 91-94350-92287 Mail: akha...@hotmail.com Mail: akha...@gmail.com http://teaanalyst.blogspot.com/ "Walking on

RE: Brought to you by the people who gave you IE

2009-09-29 Thread Geoff
i somehow got the Coolsearch hijacker some years ago and was totally unable to remove it. given that it is reported to hijack your browser and send you to places that could give you jail time, I rebuilt my windows machine from scratch. not all viruses are merely annoying. -Original Message

RE: Brought to you by the people who gave you IE

2009-09-29 Thread Geoff
granted... but in the connected world, an unconnected computer loses so much of its value thus reinforcing my point that security can only be obtained by reducing its effectiveness a great deal. -Original Message- From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf O

Re: Brought to you by the people who gave you IE

2009-09-29 Thread Paul McNett
Geoff wrote: > A well-balance reply. the idea that any OS is immune is ridiculously naive - > unless you make an OS so secure that you cant actually do anything with it! Any OS is secure if you cut off all external input. IOW, no internet, no USB, no keyboard. :) Paul ___

Re: Brought to you by the people who gave you IE

2009-09-29 Thread Paul McNett
Ed Leafe wrote: > On Sep 29, 2009, at 11:22 PM, MB Software Solutions General Account > wrote: > >> Saw an article the other day that suggested the virus writers are >> targeting Macs more nowadays. Is it only a matter of time until the >> next target is Ubuntu, or is that O/S structured in suc

RE: Brought to you by the people who gave you IE

2009-09-29 Thread Geoff
A well-balance reply. the idea that any OS is immune is ridiculously naive - unless you make an OS so secure that you cant actually do anything with it! -Original Message- From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Ed Leafe Sent: Wednesday, 30 September 2

Re: Brought to you by the people who gave you IE

2009-09-29 Thread Ed Leafe
On Sep 29, 2009, at 11:22 PM, MB Software Solutions General Account wrote: > Saw an article the other day that suggested the virus writers are > targeting Macs more nowadays. Is it only a matter of time until the > next target is Ubuntu, or is that O/S structured in such a way to be > immune to

Re: Brought to you by the people who gave you IE

2009-09-29 Thread Paul McNett
MB Software Solutions General Account wrote: > Saw an article the other day that suggested the virus writers are > targeting Macs more nowadays. Is it only a matter of time until the > next target is Ubuntu, or is that O/S structured in such a way to be > immune to a virus attack? No OS is immune

Re: Brought to you by the people who gave you IE

2009-09-29 Thread MB Software Solutions General Account
Ed Leafe wrote: > On Sep 29, 2009, at 11:40 AM, Stephen Russell wrote: > >> >> >> What part of this do I not want to trust? > > > Anti-virus for free? Can you say 'Ubuntu'? Saw an article the other day that suggested the virus writers are targeting Macs more nowa

RE: [OT] Literary Lion Obama will Roar No More

2009-09-29 Thread Bob Calco
> Scripture says that happens BEFORE the final battle, which you say has > already happened. What's more, according to your timetable we have > already risen from the grave, been judged, and are now in hell. LOL Actually that's not what it says. It says anyone who professes NOT Christ come in the

Re: [OT] Literary Lion Obama will Roar No More

2009-09-29 Thread Ricardo Aráoz
Bob Calco wrote: > BTW, after I've burned you for heresy we might start trying to figure >> out how many angels will fit in a pin's head. >> > > Heresy? It's the only interpretation of Jesus' direct promises of his > immanent parousia in that generation IMHO that makes sense, and it fits with

Re: Something free from M$

2009-09-29 Thread Ricardo Aráoz
Charlie Coleman wrote: > At 04:53 PM 9/28/2009 +0100, Alan Bourke wrote: > >> Ah Microsoft, the first hit is always free ;) >> > > LOL, yeah, "free". > > MS is really scrambling lately... fighting back at Mac's TV commercials... > "Windows 7 party"... "Free (but not really) software"... he

Re: Brought to you by the people who gave you IE

2009-09-29 Thread Ed Leafe
On Sep 29, 2009, at 11:40 AM, Stephen Russell wrote: > > > What part of this do I not want to trust? Anti-virus for free? Can you say 'Ubuntu'? -- Ed Leafe ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription M

Re: Something free from M$

2009-09-29 Thread Stephen Russell
On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 4:25 PM, Allen wrote: > Surprised. I had heard it said to appear at a show over there, don't know > which one, but not too far away time wise, possible oct - nov -- Oct should be the release of beta 2 for 2010. Or "the stable one" beta one had

RE: God uses bing? I still think that he is above the intertubes

2009-09-29 Thread Allen
So does Santa and the tooth fairy Al -Original Message- From: profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Stephen Russell Sent: 29 September 2009 18:57 To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: God uses bing? I still think that he is above the intertubes

Re: God uses bing? I still think that he is above the intertubes

2009-09-29 Thread Stephen Russell
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 12:11 PM, Allen wrote: > So does Santa and the tooth fairy --- Now that Santa has opened North Pole China he needs something to keep his B2B systems connected. The china division is responsible for all those killer toys, yes that was a paint pu

RE: [OT] Yes We Can!

2009-09-29 Thread Michael Madigan
Q: What's the difference between Obama and Hitler? A: Hitler loved his country. --- On Tue, 9/29/09, Bob Calco wrote: > From: Bob Calco > Subject: RE: [OT] Yes We Can! > To: "'ProFox Email List'" > Date: Tuesday, September 29, 2009, 12:57 PM > Oops sorry > > http://bit.ly/P20mc >

RE: [OT] Yes We Can!

2009-09-29 Thread Bob Calco
Oops sorry http://bit.ly/P20mc That should be it > -Original Message- > From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On > Behalf Of Pete Theisen > Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 12:19 PM > To: ProFox Email List > Subject: Re: [OT] Yes We Can! > > Bob Calco wro

God uses bing? I still think that he is above the intertubes

2009-09-29 Thread Stephen Russell
-- Stephen Russell Sr. Production Systems Programmer SQL Server DBA Web and Winform Development Independent Contractor Memphis TN 901.246-0159 ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription

Brought to you by the people who gave you IE

2009-09-29 Thread Stephen Russell
What part of this do I not want to trust? -- Stephen Russell Sr. Production Systems Programmer SQL Server DBA Web and Winform Development Independent Contractor Memphis TN 901.246-0159 ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.c

Re: [NF] Throwback movie by M$ on the old days of Visual Studio

2009-09-29 Thread Stephen Russell
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 11:16 AM, Paul McNett wrote: > Stephen Russell wrote: >> This is part 1 of 2 half hour vids. >> >> > > Apparently Microsoft hasn't heard of YouTube? It says I must install > Silverlight to > watch the movie, and I still haven't found a compelli

Re: [OT] Yes We Can!

2009-09-29 Thread Pete Theisen
Bob Calco wrote: > http://bit.ly/ijYwI > YET ANOTHER Hi Bob, Nope. It is the same link you posted before. Not "another" at all. -- Regards, Pete http://pete-theisen.com/ http://elect-pete-theisen.com/ ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscri

Re: [NF] Throwback movie by M$ on the old days of Visual Studio

2009-09-29 Thread Paul McNett
Stephen Russell wrote: > This is part 1 of 2 half hour vids. > > Apparently Microsoft hasn't heard of YouTube? It says I must install Silverlight to watch the movie, and I still haven't found a compelling need for doing that. ;) Paul ___

[NF] Throwback movie by M$ on the old days of Visual Studio

2009-09-29 Thread Stephen Russell
This is part 1 of 2 half hour vids. -- Stephen Russell Sr. Production Systems Programmer SQL Server DBA Web and Winform Development Independent Contractor Memphis TN 901.246-0159 ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com

Re: [OT] Deliver Us, Obama!

2009-09-29 Thread Pete Theisen
Bob Calco wrote: > http://bit.ly/ijYwI > OK, Geoff, how do you rationalize THIS as "not idol worship"??!!! > > - Bob Better back off the speakers, it is loud. -- Regards, Pete http://pete-theisen.com/ http://elect-pete-theisen.com/ ___ Post Messag

Re: [OT] Literary Lion Obama will Roar No More

2009-09-29 Thread Jean Laeremans
Amen..the gospel acccording to Bob A+ jml ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://le

RE: [OT] Literary Lion Obama will Roar No More

2009-09-29 Thread Bob Calco
Ricardo: > Mmmm. no, I still hate you. :) That makes me smile, mainly because I predicted you'd say that. > > I'm eschatologically speaking a preterist, so I don't know how that > comment > > is supposed to relate to me. > > > Eschatology? Yes I like that (the 'other' meaning). Now "preteri

Re: [OT] Literary Lion Obama will Roar No More

2009-09-29 Thread Ricardo Aráoz
Bob Calco wrote: >>> My dear friend Ricardo, >>> >> Is this what you people call irony? >> > > No, I mean it! I feel like we've been best buddies since time began. > > (OK, that was irony. On the other hand, our banter has gone beyond mere > hostility into something oddly reminiscent of

RE: [OT] Literary Lion Obama will Roar No More

2009-09-29 Thread Michael Madigan
Maybe Jean's wife, that's it. Ricardo is a step above Jean. > you derive your self esteem from ridiculing others or > banging their wives, > and since mine is out of your reach (and would be even if > you were right > here), all you can do is make fun of my posts. _

Re: [OT] Literary Lion Obama will Roar No More

2009-09-29 Thread Michael Madigan
At least he has a Missus. LOL --- On Mon, 9/28/09, Ricardo Aráoz wrote: > From: Ricardo Aráoz > Subject: Re: [OT] Literary Lion Obama will Roar No More > To: "ProFox Email List" > Date: Monday, September 28, 2009, 6:39 PM > Jean Laeremans wrote: > >>> would > >>> it bother you? > >>>        >

Re: [OT] Chicago Olympic spirit

2009-09-29 Thread Michael Madigan
Obama's Brothers --- On Mon, 9/28/09, Bob Calco wrote: > From: Bob Calco > Subject: [OT] Chicago Olympic spirit > To: "'ProFox Email List'" > Date: Monday, September 28, 2009, 11:24 PM > http://bit.ly/1OXOK7 > > - - - > > I wonder if President Obama is going to show this to the > committee i