Re: [OT] Republican senators set up showdown over possible Rice nomination

2012-11-14 Thread lelandj
On 11/14/2012 09:12 PM, lelandj wrote: who say him as an military man, and thus an outsider Whoops, I should have said: "who _saw_ him as an military man, and thus an outsider Regards, LelandJ --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -

[OT] Republican senators set up showdown over possible Rice nomination

2012-11-14 Thread lelandj
I'm beginning to think that Susan Rice, USA Ambassador to the UN, was setup by the CIA. I know that John McCain and Lindsey Graham were big supporters of president Bush's foreign policy, including voting for President Bush's nomination of neocon, "Bull Dog", John Bolton, as USA Ambassador to

[OT] Some things to expect

2012-11-14 Thread Charlie Coleman
Well, I was waiting for the flood of post-election emails to die down but things are happening so fast that my predictions may turn into yesterday's news. As soon as I heard Obama won the election, I predicted trouble for the mid-East. And that it'll eventually spill over into the rest of the

Re: [NF] SATA Drive & a Dead PC...

2012-11-14 Thread Kurt @ VR-FX
Although - in my case - I want Both - since I have at least one program that is tied to the system - and its a Drag to lose that permanently! On 11/14/2012 4:06 PM, Richard Kaye wrote: Safe Mode may boot, which would be the goal of the exercise as I assume you're mainly interested in retrievin

Re: [NF] SATA Drive & a Dead PC...

2012-11-14 Thread Kurt @ VR-FX
I used a screw driver to listen - it went "Whir" - "Chip" - "Chip, chip" - "Chip, chip" - then continued to make the spinning noise. I even plugged the Terabyte drive back in - and, it comes up under the Bios - just not the main drive. But, strangely - at one point today - when it was booting

Re: [NF] SATA Drive & a Dead PC...

2012-11-14 Thread Mike Copeland
You should be able to hear the drive spin up and self-calibrate...although the newer drives are much quieter. What I do is use a large screwdriver like a stethescope...put the handle end against your ear and the point against the case of the drive (NOT on a circuit board!)then power the sys

Re: [NF] SATA Drive & a Dead PC...

2012-11-14 Thread Kurt @ VR-FX
Oh -and yes, it does spin up... On 11/14/2012 6:26 PM, Mike Copeland wrote: If the BIOS doesn't see the drive, there's no hope in heck that any software (Windoze, or a utility) will see the drive either. You either have a drive with a controller issue (not unlike a bad-attitude in a mother-in-

Re: [NF] SATA Drive & a Dead PC...

2012-11-14 Thread Kurt @ VR-FX
Its a: SATA Seagate 500 GB I actually already did swap the SATA cables - took the one from Terabyte drive - still no good - and even tried plugging into different SATA Ports on the MoBo - still no help... -K- On 11/14/2012 6:26 PM, Mike Copeland wrote: If the BIOS doesn't see the drive, the

Re: [NF] SATA Drive & a Dead PC...

2012-11-14 Thread Kurt @ VR-FX
For the Hell of it - I blew air into the fan on the CPU. So - as I mentioned before - I was now seeing errors like No Boot files or something - and that when Bios was displayed - it didn't list any HD in the SATA channels. AS such, just now - went into the BIOS - and that's what I saw - no HD'

Re: [NF] SATA Drive & a Dead PC...

2012-11-14 Thread Mike Copeland
If the BIOS doesn't see the drive, there's no hope in heck that any software (Windoze, or a utility) will see the drive either. You either have a drive with a controller issue (not unlike a bad-attitude in a mother-in-law) or a bad SATA cable...are you sure the drive is spinning up and doing se

Re: [NF] SATA Drive & a Dead PC...

2012-11-14 Thread Kurt @ VR-FX
Its XP Pro 64 - which I believe has a VERY Different SP set of iterations vs. regular XP. But, without it booting - I can't U what I got. I did keep it updated - however... When it is turned on initially - and it shows BIOS name, Memory & HD's - it shows Nothing showing up in Sata channels 1 &

Re: [NF] SATA Drive & a Dead PC...

2012-11-14 Thread Kurt @ VR-FX
No - its XP Pro 64 - and system was Built with the Sata HD - and, it was actually a Win2000 System - which I upgraded (dual-boot) to XP Pro. -K- On 11/14/2012 4:34 PM, Dan Covill wrote: On 11/14/12 11:47, Kurt @ VR-FX wrote: Here's the deal. I have a desktop PC that was my main PC - but, it

Re: [NF] SATA Drive & a Dead PC...

2012-11-14 Thread Kurt @ VR-FX
I've heard of and possibly HAD that problem before - heat & shutdown - thought of it right after I sent that reply. I have case WIDE Open - dealing with this thing. And - right now - its driving me NUTS - as attempting to boot up gives different results almost every time. It DID boot to an OS

Re: [NF] SATA Drive & a Dead PC...

2012-11-14 Thread Mike Copeland
Kurt, As has been pointed out, it would be a VERY good thing to know which SP version your now-dead XP system was upgraded to. (Or maybe it was installed with SP1, 2, or 3.) You'll also need a CD that matches that level. I'm not 100%, but I think you can reinstall from an SP1 CD to an SP3 sy

RE: [NF] SATA Drive & a Dead PC...

2012-11-14 Thread PabloSr
In case you have'nt considered it yet, checkout the computer's battery or/and the boot settings in the computer's BIOS. PabloSr "Sea cortés, ande con cuidado, edúquese lo más que pueda, respete para que lo respeten, y que Dios nos ampare a todos!" Dra. A.M. Polo * -Original Message- * F

FoxCodePlus and cursors fields

2012-11-14 Thread Tracy Pearson
I downloaded and installed FoxCodePlus from the VFPx site today. I decided to try this out specifically for feature #6. Fields in write-time and run-time. Tables fields are also included in the intellisense. The type of the field is displayed in the tooltip. Note: Fields tables created by "SELECT

Re: [NF] SATA Drive & a Dead PC...

2012-11-14 Thread Dan Covill
On 11/14/12 11:47, Kurt @ VR-FX wrote: Here's the deal. I have a desktop PC that was my main PC - but, it died several months ago. I have my laptop - which has been my primary computing device for quite a while now - but, the desktop PC has some stuff on there that's not on my laptop. Win XP di

Re: [NF] SATA Drive & a Dead PC...

2012-11-14 Thread Mike Copeland
My nose smells a power supply issue. I've also seen CPUs that will sense a "problem" and shut the system down...usually heat related...kind of a self-preservation thing. "I'm feeling warm, Dave." Have you actually opened the system and checked for massive wads of lint and dust and dirt caked o

RE: [NF] SATA Drive & a Dead PC...

2012-11-14 Thread Richard Kaye
Safe Mode may boot, which would be the goal of the exercise as I assume you're mainly interested in retrieving data, not applications. :-) -- rk -Original Message- From: ProfoxTech [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Kurt @ VR-FX Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 3:34 PM

Re: [NF] SATA Drive & a Dead PC...

2012-11-14 Thread Kurt @ VR-FX
OK - am trying Ur suggestion - I have that webpage open. Funny thing is. I booted with the WinXP CD - and it came up with a bunch of options on a blue screen. I actually let is sit there - while I was on the phone with a Dr. office - but, while I was still on the phone - its like after a period

Re: [NF] SATA Drive & a Dead PC...

2012-11-14 Thread Mike Copeland
Safe Mode is good when you have a device driver that has gone off the reservation. Like a scanner or some other non-essential device. Mike Original Message Subject: Re: [NF] SATA Drive & a Dead PC... From: Kurt @ VR-FX To: profoxt...@leafe.com Date: 11/14/2012 2:33 PM I've tr

Re: [NF] SATA Drive & a Dead PC...

2012-11-14 Thread Kurt @ VR-FX
I've tried Safe Mode in the past - and NEVER Found it very helpful... -K- On 11/14/2012 3:16 PM, Richard Kaye wrote: Have you tried booting Windoze in Safe Mode? -- rk -Original Message- From: ProfoxTech [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Kurt @ VR-FX Sent: Wednesd

RE: [NF] SATA Drive & a Dead PC...

2012-11-14 Thread Carl Lindner
Bart PE (Preinstalled Environment) can be copied to a cd the version I use boots from the cd into XP - the preinstalled os on the cd you can see your files on the existing drive copy to a networked pc and all sorts of stuff http://tinyurl.co m/ba8g87h Carl Lindner -Original Message

RE: [NF] SATA Drive & a Dead PC...

2012-11-14 Thread Richard Kaye
Have you tried booting Windoze in Safe Mode? -- rk -Original Message- From: ProfoxTech [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Kurt @ VR-FX Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 2:18 PM To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: Re: [NF] SATA Drive & a Dead PC... YEah - but, that's doesn

Re: [NF] SATA Drive & a Dead PC...

2012-11-14 Thread Kurt @ VR-FX
Actually - I already have one of those kinda connections - its Kingwin. But, upon connecting it - my OS would NOT see the drive! That's why I posted here to begin with... :-) -K- On 11/14/2012 2:43 PM, John Harvey wrote: You might want to get a kit that allows you to connect to the sata driv

Re: [NF] SATA Drive & a Dead PC...

2012-11-14 Thread Kurt @ VR-FX
Thanks Mike - I think I am going to try this first. I attempt recovery before - but, had no actual guided instructions - and things were not clear as to what to do. Will give this a shot & report back... -K- On 11/14/2012 2:39 PM, Mike Copeland wrote: Kurt, It's not my favorite process, but

RE: [NF] SATA Drive & a Dead PC...

2012-11-14 Thread John Harvey
You might want to get a kit that allows you to connect to the sata drive from your laptop via usb. I ordered one of those off the internet and used it to pull data from a drive just a few weeks ago. John Harvey -Original Message- From: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of

Re: [NF] SATA Drive & a Dead PC...

2012-11-14 Thread Mike Copeland
Kurt, It's not my favorite process, but I did successfully (knock on wood) reinstall a WinXP system on a BSOD computer last week. Something in the boot process was causing it to freeze during boot. I just booted to a WinXP CD, got into the Recovery Console. Here's a link to the article that

Re: [NF] SATA Drive & a Dead PC...

2012-11-14 Thread Michael Oke, II
Ubuntu.com knopper.net You can download an ISO from either then you can burn that to a CD or flash drive and boot your computer, hopefully, from there. Michael Oke, II 661-349-6221 Contents of this and all messages are intended for their designated recipient. On Nov 14, 2012, at 11:28 AM, "

Re: [NF] SATA Drive & a Dead PC...

2012-11-14 Thread Kurt @ VR-FX
Where I can find out how to make the Linux Boot CD. Also - U got me wrong - I did NOT want to Boot from the Bad HD - just attach it and be able to access it from the OS after it was attached. I attempted to run the ChkDsk from the Dead PC - but, it wouldn't work... -K- On 11/14/2012 2:20 PM

Re: [NF] SATA Drive & a Dead PC...

2012-11-14 Thread Michael Oke, II
Linux has tools to check and fix the drive as well. Might give you an idea as to what the problem is. Trying to boot the drive in another computer is rarely a good or successful idea. Michael Oke, II 661-349-6221 Contents of this and all messages are intended for their designated recipient.

Re: [NF] SATA Drive & a Dead PC...

2012-11-14 Thread Kurt @ VR-FX
YEah - but, that's doesn't solve the main problem - that this PC won't boot. Also, there is CG SW that's locked to that PC - and its Another reason why I really want to get that PC running again. It was initially suggested that I run a ChkDsk on the boot HD in question - the do a Windows repai

Re: [NF] SATA Drive & a Dead PC...

2012-11-14 Thread Kurt @ VR-FX
SATA Seagate 500 GB Need any other spec's? -K- On 11/14/2012 2:08 PM, Michael Oke, II wrote: What are the specs of the drive? Michael Oke, II 661-349-6221 Contents of this and all messages are intended for their designated recipient. On Nov 14, 2012, at 11:00 AM, "Kurt @ VR-FX" wrote:

Re: [NF] SATA Drive & a Dead PC...

2012-11-14 Thread Ted Roche
Download a Linux LiveCD (or USB) and boot from that instead. If there is not a hardware problem with the disk drive, you should be able to open the hdd and browse for the files you need. Save them off to a USB tab, send them to a shared network file share, or email them to yourself. On Wed, Nov 1

Re: [NF] SATA Drive & a Dead PC...

2012-11-14 Thread Michael Oke, II
What are the specs of the drive? Michael Oke, II 661-349-6221 Contents of this and all messages are intended for their designated recipient. On Nov 14, 2012, at 11:00 AM, "Kurt @ VR-FX" wrote: > Hello there folks, > > Here's the deal. I have a desktop PC that was my main PC - but, it died

[NF] SATA Drive & a Dead PC...

2012-11-14 Thread Kurt @ VR-FX
Hello there folks, Here's the deal. I have a desktop PC that was my main PC - but, it died several months ago. I have my laptop - which has been my primary computing device for quite a while now - but, the desktop PC has some stuff on there that's not on my laptop. FYI - the computer does at

Re: [NF] Google data center

2012-11-14 Thread Kurt @ VR-FX
Yeah - maybe I should apply for the job of riding that bike around and looking for leaks in the Pipes! :-) But - they sure were some GREAT PICS! Who would have thought So Much Tech could be So COLORFUL! -K- On 11/14/2012 12:05 PM, Stephen Russell wrote: On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 10:53 AM, M

Re: [NF] Hotmail, Junk Mail & Email Pull...

2012-11-14 Thread Kurt @ VR-FX
Hey Dave, Thanks for the input. Yes - I'm simply using the regular Webmail access - and I did Refresh on the webpage Numerous times. I can understand if a co. doesn't want to accept a Hotmail address, although that's frustrating - since they did NOT even Say that this was the case - and simpl

Re: [NF] Google data center

2012-11-14 Thread M Jarvis
On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 3:44 AM, Jean Laeremans wrote: > http://www.petapixel.com/2012/10/17/google-lets-photographer-into-secretive-data-centers-beautiful-photos-ensue/ > > A+ > jml Man, talk about going into the belly of the Beast -- Matt Jarvis Eugene, Oregon USA ___

RE: [NF] Hotmail, Junk Mail & Email Pull...

2012-11-14 Thread Dave Crozier
Kurt, Why not use Mailinator.com you simply say your email address is @mailinator.com and then go onto mailinator, key in your as the username and the emails sent to it can be viewed and deleted. The system holds emails for 7 days (I think) unless you delete them first and also there are loads

RE: [ADMIN] Want to help?

2012-11-14 Thread Bill Arnold
So if you've gotten value out of this list, and you are in a position to donate a few dollars, please go to http://www.cff.org/LWC/EdLeafe and click the "Click to Donate" button. $5 would be great; $10 even better, and $20 would be awesome! The ride is in a week, so I'm starting this fund

[NF] Hotmail, Junk Mail & Email Pull...

2012-11-14 Thread Kurt @ VR-FX
Hey folks, Hopefully this is a Quick one. I use Hotmail, but almost never access it - and I do what I have heard others on this list do - use it as a Junk Mail address - like signing up for some kind of free Net services or a trial service. I did one, and it claims to have sent me a msg to m

RE: VFP Metro Interface

2012-11-14 Thread Dave Crozier
It's sad that the remaining one probably won't be able to fly again next year due to lack of funds. Mind you, when certain of the committee members are taking out salaries in excess of £70K when most of the work is done freely by volunteers then you can't really expect people to contribute. Dav

RE: Modal window opens behind Modeless

2012-11-14 Thread Tracy Pearson
Ken Dibble wrote on 2012-11-13: > >> This only happens for one customer on one workstation. >> > Then there would have to be more to the story. Customer is fat-fingering > something, or has some funky other software running, or can't accurately > describe what's happening. > > The only oth

RE: VFP Metro Interface

2012-11-14 Thread John Weller
This was in the RAF in the 70s when I was an instructor on the Vulcan. John Weller 01380 723235 07976 393631 > > Gee John, > Your school must have been rich ... you could actually afford Rotring pens... > sheer bloody luxury! > ___ Post Messages to:

Re: VFP Metro Interface

2012-11-14 Thread AndyHC
OHP's? what was wrong with flipcharts? AndyD# P.S. actually we did have OHP's - one of the biggest bollockings I ever got was for not carrying extra projector bulbs - I *had* checked that the one in the projector and the spare both worked - not good enough - it must just never never ever ha

RE: VFP Metro Interface

2012-11-14 Thread Dave Crozier
Gee John, Your school must have been rich ... you could actually afford Rotring pens... sheer bloody luxury! Dave -Original Message- From: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of John Weller Sent: 14 November 2012 09:24 To: profox@leafe.com Subject: RE: VFP Metro Interface

RE: VFP Metro Interface

2012-11-14 Thread John Weller
I too am retired do a bit of programming to keep my hand in and the brain ticking over. I wish I'd had PowerPoint when I was teaching! When I think of the hours I spent making OHP slides with a Rotring pen and stencil :-) John Weller 01380 723235 07976 393631 > > Well into retirement now I'm u