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2007-10-22 Thread Peter Hart
rofox@leafe.com Subject: Re: [NF] About OEM WinXP -- continued > In Man-wai's case I think it could be worth going the new > motherboard way as long as the IBM is a standard case and > will take his preferred motherboard. Another alternative Now that I had bought my motherboard

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2007-10-22 Thread Man-wai Chang
> In Man-wai's case I think it could be worth going the new > motherboard way as long as the IBM is a standard case and > will take his preferred motherboard. Another alternative Now that I had bought my motherboard and built a new PC, could I just buy a OEM WinXP separately from shops? I notice

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2007-10-22 Thread David Crooks
On Monday, October 22, 2007 8:06 AM Alan Bourke wrote: >Problem being that in the sphere of payroll and accounting software for small to medium sized enterprises, >the alternatives just ain't there. Can you use Quicken? David L. Crooks ___ Post Mes

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2007-10-22 Thread David Crooks
On Monday, October 22, 2007 7:40 AM Man-wai Chang wrote: >So were there court cases related to the OEM license? What are their results? Would have to Google that... >After all these conversation, OEM license is just like renting a software ... but the rent is paid once only. Computer software h

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2007-10-22 Thread Peter Hart
inal Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Leafe Sent: 22 October 2007 12:46 To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [NF] About OEM WinXP -- continued On Oct 22, 2007, at 7:40 AM, Man-wai Chang wrote: >> They can say whatever they want. If you have the

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2007-10-22 Thread mrgmhale
> Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 8:11 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [NF] About OEM WinXP -- continued > > > On Oct 22, 2007, at 8:05 AM, Alan Bourke wrote: > > > Problem being that in the sphere of payroll and accounting software > > for > > sm

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2007-10-22 Thread mrgmhale
MAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Alan Bourke > Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 8:06 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [NF] About OEM WinXP -- continued > > > mrgmhale wrote: > > M$ may end up winning this war eventually, but it is going > > to bleed customers off that

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2007-10-22 Thread Ed Leafe
On Oct 22, 2007, at 8:05 AM, Alan Bourke wrote: > Problem being that in the sphere of payroll and accounting software > for > small to medium sized enterprises, the alternatives just ain't there. Sounds like a business opportunity. -- Ed Leafe -- http://leafe.com -- http://dabodev.com

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2007-10-22 Thread Alan Bourke
mrgmhale wrote: > M$ may end up winning this war eventually, but it is going > to bleed customers off that will end up finally saying enough is enough, and > seek alternatives (Linux, OpenOffice, etc.). > > Problem being that in the sphere of payroll and accounting software for small to medium

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2007-10-22 Thread mrgmhale
ober 22, 2007 7:15 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [NF] About OEM WinXP -- continued > > > On Oct 22, 2007, at 7:03 AM, Mark Stanton wrote: > > >> I just phoned Micro$oft Hong Kong. My guess was/is correct. The OEM > >> WinXP and OEM Office licenses

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2007-10-22 Thread Allen
renting at buying prices. whatever way you want to look at it, it sucks. Allen -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Man-wai Chang So were there court cases related to the OEM license? What are their results? After all these conversation, OEM

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2007-10-22 Thread Ed Leafe
On Oct 22, 2007, at 7:40 AM, Man-wai Chang wrote: >> They can say whatever they want. If you have the legal firepower to >> challenge them, be my guest. > > So were there court cases related to the OEM license? What are their > results? I don't know; I've never looked into it. All I

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2007-10-22 Thread Man-wai Chang
> They can say whatever they want. If you have the legal firepower to > challenge them, be my guest. So were there court cases related to the OEM license? What are their results? After all these conversation, OEM license is just like renting a software ... but the rent is paid once only.

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2007-10-22 Thread Ed Leafe
On Oct 22, 2007, at 7:03 AM, Mark Stanton wrote: >> I just phoned Micro$oft Hong Kong. My guess was/is correct. The OEM >> WinXP and OEM Office licenses that accompanied a PC would expire when >> that PC died. There is no legal way of transferring to another PC, >> even >> though the PC is of th

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2007-10-22 Thread Mark Stanton
> I just phoned Micro$oft Hong Kong. My guess was/is correct. The OEM > WinXP and OEM Office licenses that accompanied a PC would expire when > that PC died. There is no legal way of transferring to another PC, even > though the PC is of the same build as the dead one. The OEM licenses are > tied t

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2007-10-22 Thread Man-wai Chang
> There are a series of triggering rules that it uses to decide if you've > changed too much. Yes. When you make significant changes to the old PC, it's no longer the PC that qualified for the original OEM license. -- @~@http://changmw.homeip.net / v \ May the Force and Farce be with y

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2007-10-22 Thread Allen
If its just for homework then Linux with openoffice should be suffice. If it was not for VFP and paint programs I alrerady own I might be tempted. Allen -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Man-wai Chang I have yet to hear anything from Hong K

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2007-10-22 Thread Man-wai Chang
> On the other hand, maybe I should persuade my sister to let her daughter > use Linux first. If she couldn't do her homework with it, then I buy a > Vi$ta. > But... dam it... DirectX games? :) -- @~@http://changmw.homeip.net / v \ May the Force and Farce be with you! Linux 2.6.23.1 /(

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2007-10-22 Thread Alan Bourke
Paul Hill wrote: > But what happens if you upgrade the PC? If you replace the graphics > card is that OK? What about the motherboard? It's still the same PC > :- There are a series of triggering rules that it uses to decide if you've changed too much. _

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2007-10-22 Thread Man-wai Chang
Allen wrote: > making linux sound good :) that never dies with a pc (as long as you made a > os disk that is) I have yet to hear anything from Hong Kong Government on education and open-sourced software. On the other hand, maybe I should persuade my sister to let her daughter use Linux first. If

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2007-10-22 Thread Allen
making linux sound good :) that never dies with a pc (as long as you made a os disk that is) Allen -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Man-wai Chang Sent: 22 October 2007 09:45 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [NF] About OEM WinXP

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2007-10-22 Thread Man-wai Chang
> But what happens if you upgrade the PC? If you replace the graphics > card is that OK? What about the motherboard? It's still the same PC > :-) Not applicable to my case. The IBM Thinkcentre A50 8090 motherboard really died... -- @~@http://changmw.homeip.net / v \ May the Force and

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2007-10-21 Thread Paul Hill
On 10/22/07, Man-wai Chang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I just phoned Micro$oft Hong Kong. My guess was/is correct. The OEM > WinXP and OEM Office licenses that accompanied a PC would expire when > that PC died. There is no legal way of transferring to another PC, even > though the PC is of the s

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2007-10-21 Thread Man-wai Chang
I just phoned Micro$oft Hong Kong. My guess was/is correct. The OEM WinXP and OEM Office licenses that accompanied a PC would expire when that PC died. There is no legal way of transferring to another PC, even though the PC is of the same build as the dead one. The OEM licenses are tied to the "so