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2007-10-22 Thread Peter Hart
rofox@leafe.com Subject: Re: [NF] About OEM WinXP -- continued > In Man-wai's case I think it could be worth going the new > motherboard way as long as the IBM is a standard case and > will take his preferred motherboard. Another alternative Now that I had bought my motherboard

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2007-10-22 Thread Man-wai Chang
> In Man-wai's case I think it could be worth going the new > motherboard way as long as the IBM is a standard case and > will take his preferred motherboard. Another alternative Now that I had bought my motherboard and built a new PC, could I just buy a OEM WinXP separately from shops? I notice

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2007-10-22 Thread David Crooks
On Monday, October 22, 2007 8:06 AM Alan Bourke wrote: >Problem being that in the sphere of payroll and accounting software for small to medium sized enterprises, >the alternatives just ain't there. Can you use Quicken? David L. Crooks ___ Post Mes

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2007-10-22 Thread David Crooks
On Monday, October 22, 2007 7:40 AM Man-wai Chang wrote: >So were there court cases related to the OEM license? What are their results? Would have to Google that... >After all these conversation, OEM license is just like renting a software ... but the rent is paid once only. Computer software h

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2007-10-22 Thread Peter Hart
inal Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Leafe Sent: 22 October 2007 12:46 To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [NF] About OEM WinXP -- continued On Oct 22, 2007, at 7:40 AM, Man-wai Chang wrote: >> They can say whatever they want. If you have the

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2007-10-22 Thread mrgmhale
> Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 8:11 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [NF] About OEM WinXP -- continued > > > On Oct 22, 2007, at 8:05 AM, Alan Bourke wrote: > > > Problem being that in the sphere of payroll and accounting software > > for > > sm

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2007-10-22 Thread mrgmhale
MAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Alan Bourke > Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 8:06 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [NF] About OEM WinXP -- continued > > > mrgmhale wrote: > > M$ may end up winning this war eventually, but it is going > > to bleed customers off that

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2007-10-22 Thread Ed Leafe
On Oct 22, 2007, at 8:05 AM, Alan Bourke wrote: > Problem being that in the sphere of payroll and accounting software > for > small to medium sized enterprises, the alternatives just ain't there. Sounds like a business opportunity. -- Ed Leafe -- http://leafe.com -- http://dabodev.com

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2007-10-22 Thread Alan Bourke
mrgmhale wrote: > M$ may end up winning this war eventually, but it is going > to bleed customers off that will end up finally saying enough is enough, and > seek alternatives (Linux, OpenOffice, etc.). > > Problem being that in the sphere of payroll and accounting software for small to medium

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2007-10-22 Thread mrgmhale
ober 22, 2007 7:15 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [NF] About OEM WinXP -- continued > > > On Oct 22, 2007, at 7:03 AM, Mark Stanton wrote: > > >> I just phoned Micro$oft Hong Kong. My guess was/is correct. The OEM > >> WinXP and OEM Office licenses

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2007-10-22 Thread Allen
renting at buying prices. whatever way you want to look at it, it sucks. Allen -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Man-wai Chang So were there court cases related to the OEM license? What are their results? After all these conversation, OEM

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2007-10-22 Thread Ed Leafe
On Oct 22, 2007, at 7:40 AM, Man-wai Chang wrote: >> They can say whatever they want. If you have the legal firepower to >> challenge them, be my guest. > > So were there court cases related to the OEM license? What are their > results? I don't know; I've never looked into it. All I

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2007-10-22 Thread Man-wai Chang
> They can say whatever they want. If you have the legal firepower to > challenge them, be my guest. So were there court cases related to the OEM license? What are their results? After all these conversation, OEM license is just like renting a software ... but the rent is paid once only.

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2007-10-22 Thread Ed Leafe
On Oct 22, 2007, at 7:03 AM, Mark Stanton wrote: >> I just phoned Micro$oft Hong Kong. My guess was/is correct. The OEM >> WinXP and OEM Office licenses that accompanied a PC would expire when >> that PC died. There is no legal way of transferring to another PC, >> even >> though the PC is of th

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2007-10-22 Thread Mark Stanton
> I just phoned Micro$oft Hong Kong. My guess was/is correct. The OEM > WinXP and OEM Office licenses that accompanied a PC would expire when > that PC died. There is no legal way of transferring to another PC, even > though the PC is of the same build as the dead one. The OEM licenses are > tied t

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2007-10-22 Thread Man-wai Chang
> There are a series of triggering rules that it uses to decide if you've > changed too much. Yes. When you make significant changes to the old PC, it's no longer the PC that qualified for the original OEM license. -- @~@http://changmw.homeip.net / v \ May the Force and Farce be with y

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2007-10-22 Thread Allen
If its just for homework then Linux with openoffice should be suffice. If it was not for VFP and paint programs I alrerady own I might be tempted. Allen -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Man-wai Chang I have yet to hear anything from Hong K

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2007-10-22 Thread Man-wai Chang
> On the other hand, maybe I should persuade my sister to let her daughter > use Linux first. If she couldn't do her homework with it, then I buy a > Vi$ta. > But... dam it... DirectX games? :) -- @~@http://changmw.homeip.net / v \ May the Force and Farce be with you! Linux 2.6.23.1 /(

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2007-10-22 Thread Alan Bourke
Paul Hill wrote: > But what happens if you upgrade the PC? If you replace the graphics > card is that OK? What about the motherboard? It's still the same PC > :- There are a series of triggering rules that it uses to decide if you've changed too much. _

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2007-10-22 Thread Man-wai Chang
Allen wrote: > making linux sound good :) that never dies with a pc (as long as you made a > os disk that is) I have yet to hear anything from Hong Kong Government on education and open-sourced software. On the other hand, maybe I should persuade my sister to let her daughter use Linux first. If

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2007-10-22 Thread Allen
making linux sound good :) that never dies with a pc (as long as you made a os disk that is) Allen -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Man-wai Chang Sent: 22 October 2007 09:45 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [NF] About OEM WinXP

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2007-10-22 Thread Man-wai Chang
> But what happens if you upgrade the PC? If you replace the graphics > card is that OK? What about the motherboard? It's still the same PC > :-) Not applicable to my case. The IBM Thinkcentre A50 8090 motherboard really died... -- @~@http://changmw.homeip.net / v \ May the Force and

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2007-10-21 Thread Paul Hill
On 10/22/07, Man-wai Chang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I just phoned Micro$oft Hong Kong. My guess was/is correct. The OEM > WinXP and OEM Office licenses that accompanied a PC would expire when > that PC died. There is no legal way of transferring to another PC, even > though the PC is of the s