Re: [NF] LINQ - RIP?

2008-11-06 Thread Alan Bourke
On Wed, 5 Nov 2008 16:13:43 -0600, Stephen Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: A good comparison of what the EF is to be and what Linq already is. If only there were an easy-to-use ORM for .Net that really worked well with OLE DB data sources like VFP. They're all centered round SQL Server,

Re: [NF] LINQ - RIP?

2008-11-06 Thread Stephen Russell
On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 3:14 AM, Alan Bourke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 5 Nov 2008 16:13:43 -0600, Stephen Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: A good comparison of what the EF is to be and what Linq already is. If only there were an easy-to-use ORM for .Net that really worked well with

Re: [NF] LINQ - RIP?

2008-11-06 Thread Alan Bourke
On Thu, 6 Nov 2008 05:37:54 -0600, Stephen Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Have you thought of making the mapper yourself? I thought about doing one for nHibernate (or was it Wilson OR?) but who's got the time :) -- Alan Bourke [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [NF] LINQ - RIP?

2008-11-06 Thread MB Software Solutions General Account
Stephen Russell wrote: On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 3:14 AM, Alan Bourke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 5 Nov 2008 16:13:43 -0600, Stephen Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: A good comparison of what the EF is to be and what Linq already is. If only there were an easy-to-use ORM for .Net that

Re: [NF] LINQ - RIP?

2008-11-06 Thread Ed Leafe
On Nov 6, 2008, at 11:27 AM, MB Software Solutions General Account wrote: Tell me again why they couldn't make it easy to link the datasets to the objects like Foxpro made it easy?? Because they didn't want to make it look like Dabo? ;-) -- Ed Leafe

Re: [NF] LINQ - RIP?

2008-11-06 Thread MB Software Solutions, LLC
Ed Leafe wrote: On Nov 6, 2008, at 11:27 AM, MB Software Solutions General Account wrote: Tell me again why they couldn't make it easy to link the datasets to the objects like Foxpro made it easy?? Because they didn't want to make it look like Dabo? ;-) LOL!

Re: [NF] LINQ - RIP?

2008-11-06 Thread Stephen Russell
On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 11:27 AM, MB Software Solutions General Account Tell me again why they couldn't make it easy to link the datasets to the objects like Foxpro made it easy?? -- Datasets were the first attempt in .Net 1.3,

Re: [NF] LINQ - RIP?

2008-11-05 Thread Stephen Russell
On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 7:32 AM, Stephen Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 6:14 AM, Tracy Pearson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I attended a .NET meeting in Asheville, NC last month. Developer Centric Features of SQL Server 2008 by Kevin Boles who is an independent SQL

Re: [NF] LINQ - RIP?

2008-11-04 Thread geoff
Im just getting a handle on .NET and started looking at LINQ. didnt like it so glad I can ignore it. Then again I looked at EF. Dont understand it so that doesnt sound like an advantage either. At 08:27 PM 4/11/2008, you wrote: In terms of take-up, Linq is still a minnow - it's no COM or OLEDB.

Re: [NF] LINQ - RIP?

2008-11-04 Thread Alan Bourke
In terms of take-up, Linq is still a minnow - it's no COM or OLEDB. In that sense deprecating it has less of an impact even though it's exasperating to have to evaluate a whole new ball of wax in the Entity Framework. They need to rein themselves in and get a bit of focus instead of trying to

RE: [NF] LINQ - RIP?

2008-11-04 Thread Allen
, 2008 11:09 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [NF] LINQ - RIP? Im just getting a handle on .NET and started looking at LINQ. didnt like it so glad I can ignore it. Then again I looked at EF. Dont understand it so that doesnt sound like an advantage either. At 08:27 PM 4/11/2008, you wrote

Re: [NF] LINQ - RIP?

2008-11-04 Thread Tracy Pearson
I attended a .NET meeting in Asheville, NC last month. Developer Centric Features of SQL Server 2008 by Kevin Boles who is an independent SQL Consultant and SQL Server expert as well as a SQL MVP. It's focus was mainly on SQL. One of the big points Kevin gave was using LINQ against Stored

Re: [NF] LINQ - RIP?

2008-11-04 Thread Stephen Russell
On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 6:14 AM, Tracy Pearson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I attended a .NET meeting in Asheville, NC last month. Developer Centric Features of SQL Server 2008 by Kevin Boles who is an independent SQL Consultant and SQL Server expert as well as a SQL MVP. It's focus was mainly on

Re: [NF] LINQ - RIP?

2008-11-03 Thread Ted Roche
On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 8:02 AM, Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Makes you wonder sometimes if Microsoft technology is worth following. As soon as you get used to it or find it even its dead. Bloody stupid Evolution is good, although you might not think so if your name were T. Rex. Change is

RE: [NF] LINQ - RIP?

2008-11-03 Thread Allen
Makes you wonder sometimes if Microsoft technology is worth following. As soon as you get used to it or find it even its dead. Bloody stupid Al -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard Kaye Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 1:44 PM To:

Re: [NF] LINQ - RIP?

2008-11-03 Thread Ed Leafe
On Nov 3, 2008, at 7:02 AM, Allen wrote: Makes you wonder sometimes if Microsoft technology is worth following. As soon as you get used to it or find it even its dead. Bloody stupid Ah, but *this* time it will be different! rof,lmao! -- Ed Leafe

Re: [NF] LINQ - RIP?

2008-11-03 Thread MB Software Solutions, LLC
Allen wrote: Makes you wonder sometimes if Microsoft technology is worth following. As soon as you get used to it or find it even its dead. Bloody stupid Al Certainly an argument could easily be made for this---Windows DNA comes to mind. When I read Richard's email, I had to laugh as I

Re: [NF] LINQ - RIP?

2008-11-03 Thread Stephen Russell
On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 11:19 AM, MB Software Solutions, LLC [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Allen wrote: Makes you wonder sometimes if Microsoft technology is worth following. As soon as you get used to it or find it even its dead. Bloody stupid Al Certainly an argument could easily be made for

RE: [NF] LINQ - RIP?

2008-11-03 Thread Allen
One old one that comes to mind is network dde. I had that working a treat. Then it went and nothing was easy :) Al -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MB Software Solutions,LLC Allen wrote: Makes you wonder sometimes if Microsoft technology

RE: [NF] LINQ - RIP?

2008-11-03 Thread Allen
So it's a new version of linq then. Not a new thing and byebye linq ? Al -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stephen Russell Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 6:41 PM --- My co workers who went to PDC last week

Re: [NF] LINQ - RIP?

2008-11-03 Thread MB Software Solutions, LLC
Ted Roche wrote: Evolution is good, although you might not think so if your name were T. Rex. Change is good if it progresses in the right direction, but change for change sake (this year , with tailfins!) is just bilking the customer without delivering real value. It's not bad that

Re: [NF] LINQ - RIP?

2008-11-03 Thread Ted Roche
On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 2:18 PM, Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So it's a new version of linq then. Not a new thing and byebye linq ? From my understanding from those who actually read TFA and care, LINQ for SQL is like to be discouraged and then discontinued in favor of the Entity Framework.

Re: [NF] LINQ - RIP?

2008-11-03 Thread Stephen Russell
On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 1:18 PM, Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So it's a new version of linq then. Not a new thing and byebye linq ? -- Linq is really 3 different products. Objects, XML and SQL would be their names, and the direction of what the query