RE: [NF] SATA Drive a Dead PC...

2012-11-29 Thread Richard Kaye
, 2012 8:11 PM To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: Re: [NF] SATA Drive a Dead PC... Well - since I do live on Long Island - maybe I should throw it into the ocean and have a burial at Sea! Others suggested I bring it to Best Buy - and have a GEEK see if they can access it. From what people now wrote

Re: [NF] SATA Drive a Dead PC...

2012-11-29 Thread Kurt @ VR-FX
Yeah - I know - that's why I suggested Burial @ Sea! -K- On 11/29/2012 9:53 AM, Stephen Russell wrote: On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 5:26 PM, Kurt @ VR-FX v...@optonline.net wrote: attached to OTHER Computers - it could NOT be seen. Although - not sure what you mean about a Return policy - as the

Re: [NF] SATA Drive a Dead PC...

2012-11-28 Thread Kurt @ VR-FX
On 11/27/2012 9:35 AM, Stephen Russell wrote: On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 7:52 AM, Kurt @ VR-FX v...@optonline.net wrote: Hey Richard, Thank you SO MUCH for thinking about me my problem. To be honest - the problem has still not been resolved. It was suggested I bring it to Best Buy and let one

RE: [NF] SATA Drive a Dead PC...

2012-11-28 Thread Richard Kaye
...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Kurt @ VR-FX Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2012 6:27 PM To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: Re: [NF] SATA Drive a Dead PC... Put drive in ziplock bag with a tiny bit of rice in it. Well - this SUCKS! I put Rice in the bag, froze it over Several hours - and just tried

RE: [NF] SATA Drive a Dead PC...

2012-11-28 Thread Ken Dibble
Loud clicking noises probably mean you're crashing the heads into the platters or the walls of the drive. Either way, I think you've got a significant hardware problem and should probably start writing a eulogy... That is a DEAD parrot! Ken Dibble www.stic-cil.org

Re: [NF] SATA Drive a Dead PC...

2012-11-28 Thread Kurt @ VR-FX
Well - since I do live on Long Island - maybe I should throw it into the ocean and have a burial at Sea! Others suggested I bring it to Best Buy - and have a GEEK see if they can access it. From what people now wrote - seems that would be a waste of time! Agreed??? :-( -K- On 11/28/2012

Re: [NF] SATA Drive a Dead PC...

2012-11-28 Thread Ken Dibble
Others suggested I bring it to Best Buy - and have a GEEK see if they can access it. From what people now wrote - seems that would be a waste of time! Agreed??? The geek is probably going to charge you $90.00 just to look at it, shake his head, and tell you to tank it. Unless what's on

RE: [NF] SATA Drive a Dead PC...

2012-11-27 Thread Richard Kaye
, 2012 3:34 PM To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: Re: [NF] SATA Drive a Dead PC... I've tried Safe Mode in the past - and NEVER Found it very helpful... -K- ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman

Re: [NF] SATA Drive a Dead PC...

2012-11-27 Thread Kurt @ VR-FX
GOTD tool may help. http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/hdd-mechanic/ -- rk -Original Message- From: ProfoxTech [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Kurt @ VR-FX Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 3:34 PM To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: Re: [NF] SATA Drive a Dead PC... I've

RE: [NF] SATA Drive a Dead PC...

2012-11-27 Thread Richard Kaye
...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Kurt @ VR-FX Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2012 8:52 AM To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: Re: [NF] SATA Drive a Dead PC... Hey Richard, Thank you SO MUCH for thinking about me my problem. To be honest - the problem has still not been resolved. It was suggested I bring

Re: [NF] SATA Drive a Dead PC...

2012-11-27 Thread Stephen Russell
On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 7:52 AM, Kurt @ VR-FX v...@optonline.net wrote: Hey Richard, Thank you SO MUCH for thinking about me my problem. To be honest - the problem has still not been resolved. It was suggested I bring it to Best Buy and let one of the Geeks look at it - but, I have yet to

Re: [NF] SATA Drive a Dead PC...

2012-11-27 Thread Pete Theisen
On 11/27/2012 08:52 AM, Kurt @ VR-FX wrote: Hey Richard, Thank you SO MUCH for thinking about me my problem. To be honest - the problem has still not been resolved. It was suggested I bring it to Best Buy and let one of the Geeks look at it - but, I have yet to do that. It was also suggested

Re: [NF] SATA Drive a Dead PC...

2012-11-27 Thread Joe Yoder
this behavior and sometimes something on the motherboard. Joe On Wednesday, November 14, 2012 4:10 PM, Kurt @ VR-FX wrote: Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 16:10:37 -0500 From: Kurt @ VR-FX To: profoxt...@leafe.com cc: Subject: Re: [NF] SATA Drive a Dead PC... OK - am trying Ur suggestion - I have that webpage open

Re: [NF] SATA Drive a Dead PC...

2012-11-27 Thread Kurt @ VR-FX
that causes this behavior and sometimes something on the motherboard. Joe On Wednesday, November 14, 2012 4:10 PM, Kurt @ VR-FX wrote: Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 16:10:37 -0500 From: Kurt @ VR-FX To: profoxt...@leafe.com cc: Subject: Re: [NF] SATA Drive a Dead PC... OK - am trying Ur suggestion - I

Re: [NF] SATA Drive a Dead PC...

2012-11-27 Thread Kurt @ VR-FX
Thanks for the suggestion Steven - I hadn 't though about that - even though it was my sister who suggested the Rice trick - with a Damp Kindle that wasn't working right - and it DID seem to pull out moisture! So - I shall try it with my HD... -K- On 11/27/2012 9:35 AM, Stephen Russell

Re: [NF] SATA Drive a Dead PC...

2012-11-27 Thread Kurt @ VR-FX
...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Kurt @ VR-FX Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2012 8:52 AM To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: Re: [NF] SATA Drive a Dead PC... Hey Richard, Thank you SO MUCH for thinking about me my problem. To be honest - the problem has still not been resolved. It was suggested I bring

RE: [NF] SATA Drive a Dead PC...

2012-11-27 Thread Richard Kaye
[mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Kurt @ VR-FX Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2012 2:30 PM To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: Re: [NF] SATA Drive a Dead PC... Everything seems to point to the HD. I have booted with the WinXP Pro-64 Install CD, and it runs, and it even begins the process

Re: [NF] SATA Drive a Dead PC...

2012-11-17 Thread Man-wai Chang
Beware of moisture that starts to build up when you took the drive out of the freezer... :) On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 6:41 AM, Kurt @ VR-FX v...@optonline.net wrote: HEy Mike - thanks for all this advice. I figured if I DID put it in the freezer - I would 1st put it in a Zip Lock baggie. Agreed

RE: [NF] SATA Drive a Dead PC...

2012-11-16 Thread John Weller
That is (was?) a well-known technique referred to as 'percussion adjustment' :-) John Weller 01380 723235 07976 393631 My father would sometimes give non-responsive radios a fair wack by lifting and then giving it a not so gentle slam against the table. The darn thing would then work after

Re: [NF] SATA Drive a Dead PC...

2012-11-16 Thread Mike Copeland
...and then there's the deep-freeze approach, and don't forget the swimin-wit-da-fishes method. Of course, we are into some pretty extreme solutions here that produce rare results! But when it works, it's sweet! Mike Original Message Subject: Re: [NF] SATA Drive a Dead PC

Re: [NF] SATA Drive a Dead PC...

2012-11-16 Thread Michael Oke, II
] SATA Drive a Dead PC... From: John Weller j...@johnweller.co.uk To: profoxt...@leafe.com Date: 11/16/2012 2:56 AM That is (was?) a well-known technique referred to as 'percussion adjustment' :-) John Weller 01380 723235 07976 393631 My father would sometimes give non-responsive radios

Re: [NF] SATA Drive a Dead PC...

2012-11-16 Thread M Jarvis
On Nov 16, 2012, at 1:18 AM, Mike Copeland m...@ggisoft.com wrote: Of course, we are into some pretty extreme solutions here that produce rare results! But when it works, it's sweet! Mike ... and as a last ditch effort, you could slaughter a goat and lay it on a flat rock pointing North

Re: [NF] SATA Drive a Dead PC...

2012-11-16 Thread Kurt @ VR-FX
I agree w/U Matt - as I have been beating my head in with this HD problem - and my Dead PC... TGIF Right Back @ Ur Arse! :-) On 11/16/2012 12:35 PM, M Jarvis wrote: On Nov 16, 2012, at 1:18 AM, Mike Copeland m...@ggisoft.com wrote: Of course, we are into some pretty extreme solutions here

Re: [NF] SATA Drive a Dead PC...

2012-11-16 Thread Kurt @ VR-FX
! But when it works, it's sweet! Mike Original Message Subject: Re: [NF] SATA Drive a Dead PC... From: John Weller j...@johnweller.co.uk To: profoxt...@leafe.com Date: 11/16/2012 2:56 AM That is (was?) a well-known technique referred to as 'percussion adjustment' :-) John Weller

Re: [NF] SATA Drive a Dead PC...

2012-11-16 Thread Mike Copeland
it to a drive analyzer or something to test it. In other words, make sure you're really actually working with a rock before you chunk it into the river (metaphorically speaking.) Mike Original Message Subject: Re: [NF] SATA Drive a Dead PC... From: Kurt @ VR-FX v

Re: [NF] SATA Drive a Dead PC...

2012-11-16 Thread Kurt @ VR-FX
a Geek-idiot connect it to a drive analyzer or something to test it. In other words, make sure you're really actually working with a rock before you chunk it into the river (metaphorically speaking.) Mike Original Message Subject: Re: [NF] SATA Drive a Dead PC... From: Kurt

Re: [NF] SATA Drive a Dead PC...

2012-11-15 Thread Nicholas Geti
...@optonline.net To: profox@leafe.com Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 7:23 PM Subject: Re: [NF] SATA Drive a Dead PC... Although - in my case - I want Both - since I have at least one program that is tied to the system - and its a Drag to lose that permanently! On 11/14/2012 4:06 PM, Richard

Re: [NF] SATA Drive a Dead PC...

2012-11-15 Thread Kurt @ VR-FX
Subject: Re: [NF] SATA Drive a Dead PC... Although - in my case - I want Both - since I have at least one program that is tied to the system - and its a Drag to lose that permanently! On 11/14/2012 4:06 PM, Richard Kaye wrote: Safe Mode may boot, which would be the goal of the exercise as I

RE: [NF] SATA Drive a Dead PC...

2012-11-15 Thread PabloSr
: Re: [NF] SATA Drive a Dead PC... * * Um - actually - as I wrote in previous e-mails, as * this things has been DRIVING ME NUTS - the Bios * won't even see the HD - so, at this point - I'm * pretty much F'ed! * * :-( * -K- * * * On 11/15/2012 7:32 PM, Nicholas Geti wrote: * Have you considered

Re: [NF] SATA Drive a Dead PC...

2012-11-15 Thread Kurt @ VR-FX
* Subject: Re: [NF] SATA Drive a Dead PC... * * Um - actually - as I wrote in previous e-mails, as * this things has been DRIVING ME NUTS - the Bios * won't even see the HD - so, at this point - I'm * pretty much F'ed! * * :-( * -K- * * * On 11/15/2012 7:32 PM, Nicholas Geti wrote: * Have you

Re: [NF] SATA Drive a Dead PC...

2012-11-14 Thread Michael Oke, II
What are the specs of the drive? Michael Oke, II 661-349-6221 Contents of this and all messages are intended for their designated recipient. On Nov 14, 2012, at 11:00 AM, Kurt @ VR-FX v...@optonline.net wrote: Hello there folks, Here's the deal. I have a desktop PC that was my main PC -

Re: [NF] SATA Drive a Dead PC...

2012-11-14 Thread Ted Roche
Download a Linux LiveCD (or USB) and boot from that instead. If there is not a hardware problem with the disk drive, you should be able to open the hdd and browse for the files you need. Save them off to a USB tab, send them to a shared network file share, or email them to yourself. On Wed, Nov

Re: [NF] SATA Drive a Dead PC...

2012-11-14 Thread Kurt @ VR-FX
SATA Seagate 500 GB Need any other spec's? -K- On 11/14/2012 2:08 PM, Michael Oke, II wrote: What are the specs of the drive? Michael Oke, II 661-349-6221 Contents of this and all messages are intended for their designated recipient. On Nov 14, 2012, at 11:00 AM, Kurt @ VR-FX

Re: [NF] SATA Drive a Dead PC...

2012-11-14 Thread Kurt @ VR-FX
YEah - but, that's doesn't solve the main problem - that this PC won't boot. Also, there is CG SW that's locked to that PC - and its Another reason why I really want to get that PC running again. It was initially suggested that I run a ChkDsk on the boot HD in question - the do a Windows

Re: [NF] SATA Drive a Dead PC...

2012-11-14 Thread Michael Oke, II
Linux has tools to check and fix the drive as well. Might give you an idea as to what the problem is. Trying to boot the drive in another computer is rarely a good or successful idea. Michael Oke, II 661-349-6221 Contents of this and all messages are intended for their designated

Re: [NF] SATA Drive a Dead PC...

2012-11-14 Thread Kurt @ VR-FX
Where I can find out how to make the Linux Boot CD. Also - U got me wrong - I did NOT want to Boot from the Bad HD - just attach it and be able to access it from the OS after it was attached. I attempted to run the ChkDsk from the Dead PC - but, it wouldn't work... -K- On 11/14/2012 2:20

Re: [NF] SATA Drive a Dead PC...

2012-11-14 Thread Michael Oke, II
Ubuntu.com knopper.net You can download an ISO from either then you can burn that to a CD or flash drive and boot your computer, hopefully, from there. Michael Oke, II 661-349-6221 Contents of this and all messages are intended for their designated recipient. On Nov 14, 2012, at 11:28 AM,

Re: [NF] SATA Drive a Dead PC...

2012-11-14 Thread Mike Copeland
that provided the info I used. http://www.techrepublic.com/article/10-things-you-can-do-when-windows-xp-wont-boot/6031733 Mike Original Message Subject: Re: [NF] SATA Drive a Dead PC... From: Kurt @ VR-FX v...@optonline.net To: profoxt...@leafe.com Date: 11/14/2012 1:28 PM Where I

RE: [NF] SATA Drive a Dead PC...

2012-11-14 Thread John Harvey
You might want to get a kit that allows you to connect to the sata drive from your laptop via usb. I ordered one of those off the internet and used it to pull data from a drive just a few weeks ago. John Harvey -Original Message- From: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf

Re: [NF] SATA Drive a Dead PC...

2012-11-14 Thread Kurt @ VR-FX
://www.techrepublic.com/article/10-things-you-can-do-when-windows-xp-wont-boot/6031733 Mike Original Message Subject: Re: [NF] SATA Drive a Dead PC... From: Kurt @ VR-FX v...@optonline.net To: profoxt...@leafe.com Date: 11/14/2012 1:28 PM Where I can find out how to make the Linux Boot

Re: [NF] SATA Drive a Dead PC...

2012-11-14 Thread Kurt @ VR-FX
Actually - I already have one of those kinda connections - its Kingwin. But, upon connecting it - my OS would NOT see the drive! That's why I posted here to begin with... :-) -K- On 11/14/2012 2:43 PM, John Harvey wrote: You might want to get a kit that allows you to connect to the sata

RE: [NF] SATA Drive a Dead PC...

2012-11-14 Thread Richard Kaye
Have you tried booting Windoze in Safe Mode? -- rk -Original Message- From: ProfoxTech [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Kurt @ VR-FX Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 2:18 PM To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: Re: [NF] SATA Drive a Dead PC... YEah - but, that's

RE: [NF] SATA Drive a Dead PC...

2012-11-14 Thread Carl Lindner
- From: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Kurt @ VR-FX Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 3:00 PM To: profox@leafe.com Subject: Re: [NF] SATA Drive a Dead PC... Actually - I already have one of those kinda connections - its Kingwin. But, upon connecting it - my OS would

Re: [NF] SATA Drive a Dead PC...

2012-11-14 Thread Kurt @ VR-FX
: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 2:18 PM To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: Re: [NF] SATA Drive a Dead PC... YEah - but, that's doesn't solve the main problem - that this PC won't boot. Also, there is CG SW that's locked to that PC - and its Another reason why I really want to get that PC running again

Re: [NF] SATA Drive a Dead PC...

2012-11-14 Thread Mike Copeland
Safe Mode is good when you have a device driver that has gone off the reservation. Like a scanner or some other non-essential device. Mike Original Message Subject: Re: [NF] SATA Drive a Dead PC... From: Kurt @ VR-FX v...@optonline.net To: profoxt...@leafe.com Date: 11/14

Re: [NF] SATA Drive a Dead PC...

2012-11-14 Thread Kurt @ VR-FX
-Original Message- From: ProfoxTech [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Kurt @ VR-FX Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 2:18 PM To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: Re: [NF] SATA Drive a Dead PC... YEah - but, that's doesn't solve the main problem - that this PC won't boot. Also

RE: [NF] SATA Drive a Dead PC...

2012-11-14 Thread Richard Kaye
PM To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: Re: [NF] SATA Drive a Dead PC... I've tried Safe Mode in the past - and NEVER Found it very helpful... -K- ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo

Re: [NF] SATA Drive a Dead PC...

2012-11-14 Thread Mike Copeland
on the CPU heatsink...power supply fan screen, etc.? Mike Original Message Subject: Re: [NF] SATA Drive a Dead PC... From: Kurt @ VR-FX v...@optonline.net To: profoxt...@leafe.com Date: 11/14/2012 3:10 PM OK - am trying Ur suggestion - I have that webpage open. Funny thing is. I

Re: [NF] SATA Drive a Dead PC...

2012-11-14 Thread Dan Covill
On 11/14/12 11:47, Kurt @ VR-FX wrote: Here's the deal. I have a desktop PC that was my main PC - but, it died several months ago. I have my laptop - which has been my primary computing device for quite a while now - but, the desktop PC has some stuff on there that's not on my laptop. Win XP

RE: [NF] SATA Drive a Dead PC...

2012-11-14 Thread PabloSr
- * From: ProfoxTech [mailto:profoxtech- * boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Dan Covill * Sent: November 14, 2012 4:34 PM * To: profoxt...@leafe.com * Subject: Re: [NF] SATA Drive a Dead PC... * * On 11/14/12 11:47, Kurt @ VR-FX wrote: * Here's the deal. I have a desktop PC that was * my main PC

Re: [NF] SATA Drive a Dead PC...

2012-11-14 Thread Mike Copeland
Kurt, As has been pointed out, it would be a VERY good thing to know which SP version your now-dead XP system was upgraded to. (Or maybe it was installed with SP1, 2, or 3.) You'll also need a CD that matches that level. I'm not 100%, but I think you can reinstall from an SP1 CD to an SP3

Re: [NF] SATA Drive a Dead PC...

2012-11-14 Thread Kurt @ VR-FX
heatsink...power supply fan screen, etc.? Mike Original Message Subject: Re: [NF] SATA Drive a Dead PC... From: Kurt @ VR-FX v...@optonline.net To: profoxt...@leafe.com Date: 11/14/2012 3:10 PM OK - am trying Ur suggestion - I have that webpage open. Funny thing is. I booted

Re: [NF] SATA Drive a Dead PC...

2012-11-14 Thread Kurt @ VR-FX
No - its XP Pro 64 - and system was Built with the Sata HD - and, it was actually a Win2000 System - which I upgraded (dual-boot) to XP Pro. -K- On 11/14/2012 4:34 PM, Dan Covill wrote: On 11/14/12 11:47, Kurt @ VR-FX wrote: Here's the deal. I have a desktop PC that was my main PC - but, it

Re: [NF] SATA Drive a Dead PC...

2012-11-14 Thread Kurt @ VR-FX
Its XP Pro 64 - which I believe has a VERY Different SP set of iterations vs. regular XP. But, without it booting - I can't U what I got. I did keep it updated - however... When it is turned on initially - and it shows BIOS name, Memory HD's - it shows Nothing showing up in Sata channels 1

Re: [NF] SATA Drive a Dead PC...

2012-11-14 Thread Mike Copeland
stated...but what brand is this HD? Mike Original Message Subject: Re: [NF] SATA Drive a Dead PC... From: Kurt @ VR-FX v...@optonline.net To: profoxt...@leafe.com Date: 11/14/2012 5:03 PM Its XP Pro 64 - which I believe has a VERY Different SP set of iterations vs. regular XP

Re: [NF] SATA Drive a Dead PC...

2012-11-14 Thread Kurt @ VR-FX
Original Message Subject: Re: [NF] SATA Drive a Dead PC... From: Kurt @ VR-FX v...@optonline.net To: profoxt...@leafe.com Date: 11/14/2012 3:10 PM OK - am trying Ur suggestion - I have that webpage open. Funny thing is. I booted with the WinXP CD - and it came up with a bunch

Re: [NF] SATA Drive a Dead PC...

2012-11-14 Thread Kurt @ VR-FX
Original Message Subject: Re: [NF] SATA Drive a Dead PC... From: Kurt @ VR-FX v...@optonline.net To: profoxt...@leafe.com Date: 11/14/2012 5:03 PM Its XP Pro 64 - which I believe has a VERY Different SP set of iterations vs. regular XP. But, without it booting - I can't U what

Re: [NF] SATA Drive a Dead PC...

2012-11-14 Thread Kurt @ VR-FX
the data from the old drive. Not that it matters, and you may have already stated...but what brand is this HD? Mike Original Message Subject: Re: [NF] SATA Drive a Dead PC... From: Kurt @ VR-FX v...@optonline.net To: profoxt...@leafe.com Date: 11/14/2012 5:03 PM Its XP Pro 64

Re: [NF] SATA Drive a Dead PC...

2012-11-14 Thread Mike Copeland
off the drive that is recoverable. For the price of some time and a new hard drive, you might be able to recover most of the data...if the drive will still run. Thank God for backups...right? (right? right? huh?) Mike Original Message Subject: Re: [NF] SATA Drive a Dead PC

Re: [NF] SATA Drive a Dead PC...

2012-11-14 Thread Kurt @ VR-FX
Original Message Subject: Re: [NF] SATA Drive a Dead PC... From: Kurt @ VR-FX v...@optonline.net To: profoxt...@leafe.com Date: 11/14/2012 5:30 PM For the Hell of it - I blew air into the fan on the CPU. So - as I mentioned before - I was now seeing errors like No Boot files

Re: [NF] SATA Drive a Dead PC...

2012-11-14 Thread Kurt @ VR-FX
in retrieving data, not applications. :-) -- rk -Original Message- From: ProfoxTech [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Kurt @ VR-FX Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 3:34 PM To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: Re: [NF] SATA Drive a Dead PC... I've tried Safe Mode in the past