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Man-wai Chang wrote: > What's the cheapest way to isolate my own apartment from the wireless > LAN radiation of my neighborhood? > Thanks to all replies. -- @~@http://changmw.homeip.net / v \ May the Force and Farce be with you! Linux 2.6.23.1 /( _ )\ (Xubuntu 7.04) 09:30:01 up 6 day

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On > Behalf Of Man-wai Chang > Sent: 08 November 2007 12:34 > To: profox@leafe.com > Subject: Re: [NF] Shielding my home from excessive > radiation > > > I think you would have to prove that it harmed you > - either your > health or > > caused you a financ

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It's called Short Wave radio and Satelite TV. --- Man-wai Chang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I think you would have to prove that it harmed you > - either your health or > > caused you a financial loss. As I said IANAL. > > You are not supposed to broadcast into other homes' > space. Would U

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Aluminum Foil Hat http://zapatopi.net/afdb/ http://www.lugradio.org/competitions/sh4ct/joachim.jpg But seriously. I think you can do it by lining your house with metal screening. Of course you can forget about getting cell phone, television and radio signals too. ___

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; > Dave Crozier > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of Paul Newton > Sent: 08 November 2007 16:40 > To: profox@leafe.com > Subject: Re: [NF] Shielding my home from excessive radiation > > c = 2.998 m/s >

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)m/s as an approximation. We've got to be precise here seeing as Peter started out being pedantic. Dave Crozier -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Newton Sent: 08 November 2007 16:40 To: profox@leafe.com Subject: Re: [NF] Shieldi

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For those who think that the light speed is a constant, its value is 299792458 m/s (for Frenchies : 299 792 458,00 m/s, some others 299.792.458,00 m / s and others 299,792,458.00 m/s and ... [put here whatever you think is the correct value]) Frédéric Steczycki

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7:57 > À : [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Objet : Re: [NF] Shielding my home from excessive radiation > > * 10^10 > > Paul Newton wrote: > > c = 2.998 m/s > > > > Dave Crozier wrote: > > > >> Oh, I forgot, > >> > >> In fact as Frederick

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* 10^10 Paul Newton wrote: > c = 2.998 m/s > > Dave Crozier wrote: > >> Oh, I forgot, >> >> In fact as Frederick said correctly: >> >> wavelength = 300 / frequency in MHz >> >> Mmm the brain cells haven't completely disappeared yet, it must be all the >> fish I'm eating! In case you wonder

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>So they authorized these manufacturers to spread deadly stuff everywhere So, why does this surprise you? China exports toys with lead based paint and date rape drugs, the US allows cigarettes to be sold, as do most countries, babies can be killed. There is money to be made! Have you seen fig

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c = 2.998 m/s Dave Crozier wrote: > Oh, I forgot, > > In fact as Frederick said correctly: > > wavelength = 300 / frequency in MHz > > Mmm the brain cells haven't completely disappeared yet, it must be all the > fish I'm eating! In case you wonder what the 300 is, it is the speed of > light conver

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Dave Crozier wrote: > In case you wonder what the 300 is, it is the speed of > light converted down to the correct units to make the equation work. > That's like applying the "Fiddle factor": The fiddle factor * your present answer = the correct answer. Used by accountants worldwide, except th

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Oh, I forgot, In fact as Frederick said correctly: wavelength = 300 / frequency in MHz Mmm the brain cells haven't completely disappeared yet, it must be all the fish I'm eating! In case you wonder what the 300 is, it is the speed of light converted down to the correct units to make the equation

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ehalf Of Man-wai Chang Sent: 08 November 2007 14:30 To: profox@leafe.com Subject: Re: [NF] Shielding my home from excessive radiation > Man-wai: split personalities? Seems like you're having a conversation > amongst yourselves, replying several times to your own posts?;-) Your Gra

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Dave Crozier -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Frédéric Steczycki Sent: 08 November 2007 14:57 To: profox@leafe.com Subject: RE: [NF] Shielding my home from excessive radiation Anyway, the wave length is around 10 centimeters for 3GHz (if my memo

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OTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > De la part de Man-wai Chang > Envoyé : 8 novembre 2007 15:15 > À : [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Objet : Re: [NF] Shielding my home from excessive radiation > > Paul Newton wrote: > > Man-wai Chang wrote: > >>> Paper decreases/stop

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: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Man-wai Chang Sent: 08 November 2007 14:30 To: profox@leafe.com Subject: Re: [NF] Shielding my home from excessive radiation > Man-wai: split personalities? Seems like you're having a conversation > amongst yourselves, reply

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On Nov 8, 2007 5:29 AM, Man-wai Chang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > What's the cheapest way to isolate my own apartment from the wireless > LAN radiation of my neighborhood? How about this? ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@le

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Man-wai Chang wrote: > Man-wai Chang wrote: >>> ... not anyone's life or death as well not like those US students >>> that shot their own classmates... :) >> IN the end, I hate seeing people dying before me. >> > > Not just people, life ... :) > You just don't know how hard to main my since

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> Man-wai: split personalities? Seems like you're having a conversation > amongst yourselves, replying several times to your own posts?;-) Your Grave, sorry, Grace. Go back to the technology. Must GPS be based on satellites? -- @~@http://changmw.homeip.net / v \ May the Force an

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Adam Buckland wrote: > Yes the FCC were told to take two aspirin and call back if it didn't > improve over the weekend. So they authorized these manufacturers to spread deadly stuff everywhere... -- @~@http://changmw.homeip.net / v \ May the Force and Farce be with you! Linux 2.6.23.1 /

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Man-wai Chang wrote: >> ... not anyone's life or death as well not like those US students >> that shot their own classmates... :) > > IN the end, I hate seeing people dying before me. > Not just people, life ... :) -- @~@http://changmw.homeip.net / v \ May the Force and Farce be

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Yes the FCC were told to take two aspirin and call back if it didn't improve over the weekend. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Man-wai Chang Sent: 08 November 2007 14:14 To: profox@leafe.com Subject: Re: [NF] Shielding my home

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> I guess you could complain to the FCC. Don't be surprised if they tell you > that your neighbors are in compliance with regulations - a certain amount is > allowed under the law, it is unlikely that they exceed the regs. I remembered some PC manufacturers (it's IBM I think) that stop using pla

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Paul Newton wrote: > Man-wai Chang wrote: >>> Paper decreases/stops wifi. But for a best result I'd say a wire fence >>> connected to the earth. >>> >> Must the distance between each wire in the cage be smaller than the >> wavelength of the incoming wave? If that's the case, it's not a mesh >

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> I guess you could complain to the FCC. Don't be surprised if they tell you > that your neighbors are in compliance with regulations - a certain amount is > allowed under the law, it is unlikely that they exceed the regs. Have US doctors ever communicated with FCC? Radiation could be deadly, li

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Man-wai Chang wrote: >> Paper decreases/stops wifi. But for a best result I'd say a wire fence >> connected to the earth. >> > > Must the distance between each wire in the cage be smaller than the > wavelength of the incoming wave? If that's the case, it's not a mesh > cage, but a big sheet o

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Man-wai Chang wrote: >> I don't conduct military operations, so I really don't need wireless >> stuff, except maybe the GPS system. >> > > BUT GPS doesn't have to use wireless broadcasts right? > > Man-wai: split personalities? Seems like you're having a conversation amongst yourselves,

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On Thursday 08 November 2007 08:50, Man-wai Chang wrote: > > Paper decreases/stops wifi. But for a best result I'd say a wire fence > > connected to the earth. > > Must the distance between each wire in the cage be smaller than the > wavelength of the incoming wave? If that's the case, it's not a m

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On Thursday 08 November 2007 08:49, Man-wai Chang wrote: > > Don't know, as I said IANAL (I am not a lawyer). > > Then is the regulations enforced? Will those regulations be transformed > into laws? I heard that motherboards has a emission requirement, at > least while I was learning about computer

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> ... not anyone's life or death as well not like those US students > that shot their own classmates... :) IN the end, I hate seeing people dying before me. -- @~@http://changmw.homeip.net / v \ May the Force and Farce be with you! Linux 2.6.23.1 /( _ )\ (Xubuntu 7.04) 22:02:01 u

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On Thursday 08 November 2007 08:28, Adam Buckland wrote: > Errr yes they do, BBC world service is widely available even in HK, > Radio Free Europe, Radio Free Asia, Voice of America, Voice of Russia, > China Radio International spring to mid as well. > > I hereby nominate this thread for a " Michae

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> Paper decreases/stops wifi. But for a best result I'd say a wire fence > connected to the earth. Must the distance between each wire in the cage be smaller than the wavelength of the incoming wave? If that's the case, it's not a mesh cage, but a big sheet of metal :) -- @~@http://c

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> Don't know, as I said IANAL (I am not a lawyer). > Then is the regulations enforced? Will those regulations be transformed into laws? I heard that motherboards has a emission requirement, at least while I was learning about computers in my old days so what happened to those requirements? -

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Hi Paper decreases/stops wifi. But for a best result I'd say a wire fence connected to the earth. Fred > -Message d'origine- > De : [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > De la part de Man-wai Chang > Envoyé : 8 novembre 2007 12:30 > À : [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Objet : [NF] Shielding

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Man-wai Chang wrote: >> Then let's go back to the technology of shielding our homes from >> un-necessary radiation. >> >> Sorry for wondering into the domain of blondes' politics and militarism. >> > > DO NOT worry, I am NOT interested in your guns or girls. So spare this > thread, please. :) >

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On Thursday 08 November 2007 07:33, Man-wai Chang wrote: > > I think you would have to prove that it harmed you - either your health > > or caused you a financial loss. As I said IANAL. > > You are not supposed to broadcast into other homes' space. Would USA > allows another nation to broadcast int

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> Then let's go back to the technology of shielding our homes from > un-necessary radiation. > > Sorry for wondering into the domain of blondes' politics and militarism. > DO NOT worry, I am NOT interested in your guns or girls. So spare this thread, please. :) -- @~@http://changmw.homei

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> I hereby nominate this thread for a " Michael Madigan [OT] Waste of > electrons" award. Then let's go back to the technology of shielding our homes from un-necessary radiation. Sorry for wondering into the domain of blondes' politics and militarism. -- @~@http://changmw.homeip.net / v

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ers, Adam. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Man-wai Chang Sent: 08 November 2007 12:34 To: profox@leafe.com Subject: Re: [NF] Shielding my home from excessive radiation > I think you would have to prove that it harmed you - either your health

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>> Paint all of the walls with radio-blocking paint, too: >> http://www.vnunet.com/vnunet/news/2186428/wireless-blocking-paint > > The paint used by the F117s are not yet available to civilians, right? Note that I am *NOT* stopping others from eavedropping, but do *NOT* use wirelss stuff for the

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Man-wai Chang wrote: >> I don't conduct military operations, so I really don't need wireless >> stuff, except maybe the GPS system. > > BUT GPS doesn't have to use wireless broadcasts right? > Wireless stuff is possibly the biggest threat to USA. LOL... -- @~@http://changmw.homeip.net /

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> I don't conduct military operations, so I really don't need wireless > stuff, except maybe the GPS system. BUT GPS doesn't have to use wireless broadcasts right? -- @~@http://changmw.homeip.net / v \ May the Force and Farce be with you! Linux 2.6.23.1 /( _ )\ (Xubuntu 7.04) 21:14:01

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Man-wai Chang wrote: >>> I am very happy with wired phones. >> I think wired phones uses less energy, right? Inconvinient Truth? > > Also, the government could LOG EVERYTHING. Isn't it great? I like it > actually. :) > I don't conduct military operations, so I really don't need wireless stuff, e

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>> I am very happy with wired phones. > I think wired phones uses less energy, right? Inconvinient Truth? Also, the government could LOG EVERYTHING. Isn't it great? I like it actually. :) -- @~@http://changmw.homeip.net / v \ May the Force and Farce be with you! Linux 2.6.23.1 /( _ )\

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> I think you would have to prove that it harmed you - either your health or > caused you a financial loss. As I said IANAL. You are not supposed to broadcast into other homes' space. Would USA allows another nation to broadcast into its homeland? -- @~@http://changmw.homeip.net / v \

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> But it's easy to prove that, isn't it? Just hotspot detectors would > work, right? The point is are their laws governing the range of > radiation emission in civilian homes. Note that I am not against others using wireless LAN, just keep the radiation within their own homes. Fair right? -- @

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On Thursday 08 November 2007 07:14, Man-wai Chang wrote: > > You might have to sue the individuals and corporations in the > > neighborhood one by one. The cost would be WAY more than the faraday > > cage, and you might not win. > > But it's easy to prove that, isn't it? Just hotspot detectors woul

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> I am very happy with wired phones. I think wired phones uses less energy, right? Inconvinient Truth? -- @~@http://changmw.homeip.net / v \ May the Force and Farce be with you! Linux 2.6.23.1 /( _ )\ (Xubuntu 7.04) 20:28:01 up 6 days 6:59 ^ ^2 users load average: 0.02 0.02 0.00

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On Thursday 08 November 2007 07:10, Ted Roche wrote: > On 11/8/07, Ted Roche <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Paint all of the walls with radio-blocking paint, too: > > Paint the ceiling, too. You'd want to use a wired mesh under the carpets. Hi Ted! Radio-blocking paint, eh? Where do you get that

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> You might have to sue the individuals and corporations in the neighborhood > one > by one. The cost would be WAY more than the faraday cage, and you might not > win. But it's easy to prove that, isn't it? Just hotspot detectors would work, right? The point is are their laws governing the rang

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> Paint all of the walls with radio-blocking paint, too: > http://www.vnunet.com/vnunet/news/2186428/wireless-blocking-paint The paint used by the F117s are not yet available to civilians, right? -- @~@http://changmw.homeip.net / v \ May the Force and Farce be with you! Linux 2.6.23.1 /

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> You would still have whatever radiation was coming from your own stuff. Or > you > could just forget about it and hope the stuff is safe as nearly everyone > does. I am very happy with wired phones. -- @~@http://changmw.homeip.net / v \ May the Force and Farce be with you! Linux 2.

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On 11/8/07, Ted Roche <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Paint all of the walls with radio-blocking paint, too: > Paint the ceiling, too. You'd want to use a wired mesh under the carpets. -- Ted Roche Ted Roche & Associates, LLC http://www.tedroche.com

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> Take a look at faraday cages. The mesh has to be smaller than the wavelength > of the smallest wave you want to protect against. I suppose you could paper > the walls in aluminum foil, screen the windows with fine metal mesh, tie it > all to a ground and . . . > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fa

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On 11/8/07, Man-wai Chang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > What's the cheapest way to isolate my own apartment from the wireless > LAN radiation of my neighborhood? > Paint all of the walls with radio-blocking paint, too: http://www.vnunet.com/vnunet/news/2186428/wireless-blocking-paint -- Ted Ro

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On Thursday 08 November 2007 06:45, Man-wai Chang wrote: > Man-wai Chang wrote: > > What's the cheapest way to isolate my own apartment from the wireless > > LAN radiation of my neighborhood? > > Our of curiosity: could a US citizen sue his/her neighborhood for this > wireless invasion? Hi Man-wai

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On Thursday 08 November 2007 06:29, Man-wai Chang wrote: > What's the cheapest way to isolate my own apartment from the wireless > LAN radiation of my neighborhood? Hi Man-wai! Take a look at faraday cages. The mesh has to be smaller than the wavelength of the smallest wave you want to protect a

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Man-wai Chang wrote: > What's the cheapest way to isolate my own apartment from the wireless > LAN radiation of my neighborhood? > Our of curiosity: could a US citizen sue his/her neighborhood for this wireless invasion? -- @~@http://changmw.homeip.net / v \ May the Force and Farce be