Re: corrupted table and database issues

2012-08-15 Thread MB Software Solutions General Account
On Tue, August 14, 2012 10:57 am, Alan Bourke wrote: Another thing - if you don't use a DBC then you can't use transactional updates of tables, so for me the vanishingly small chance of getting a corrupted DBC that you could get back by restoring 3 files from from yesterday's backup is vastly

Re: corrupted table and database issues

2012-08-15 Thread Rafael Copquin
maketransactable() istransactable() Rafael Copquin El 15/08/2012 12:17 p.m., MB Software Solutions General Account escribió: On Tue, August 14, 2012 10:57 am, Alan Bourke wrote: Another thing - if you don't use a DBC then you can't use transactional updates of tables, so for me the

Re: corrupted table and database issues

2012-08-15 Thread Ken Dibble
On Tue, August 14, 2012 10:57 am, Alan Bourke wrote: Another thing - if you don't use a DBC then you can't use transactional updates of tables, so for me the vanishingly small chance of getting a corrupted DBC that you could get back by restoring 3 files from from yesterday's backup is

Re: corrupted table and database issues

2012-08-14 Thread Alan Bourke
Another thing - if you don't use a DBC then you can't use transactional updates of tables, so for me the vanishingly small chance of getting a corrupted DBC that you could get back by restoring 3 files from from yesterday's backup is vastly outweighed by this fact. -- Alan Bourke alanpbourke

Re: corrupted table and database issues

2012-08-09 Thread Jean Laeremans
I came to the same conclusion all those years ago. A+ jml On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 11:42 PM, Dan Covill dcov...@san.rr.com wrote: The DBC was designed and implemented by the same folks that brought us the Registry. When we found out that names 10chars were implemented only in the DBC, and not

RE: corrupted table and database issues

2012-08-09 Thread Allen
I went the other way. Tried DBC's and regretted it. Now no way. Al -Original Message- I came to the same conclusion all those years ago. A+ jml On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 11:42 PM, Dan Covill dcov...@san.rr.com wrote: The DBC was designed and implemented by the same folks that brought us

RE: corrupted table and database issues

2012-08-09 Thread geoff
[mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Allen Sent: Thursday, 9 August 2012 5:03 PM To: profox@leafe.com Subject: RE: corrupted table and database issues I went the other way. Tried DBC's and regretted it. Now no way. Al -Original Message- I came to the same conclusion all those

RE: corrupted table and database issues

2012-08-09 Thread Allen
A bit like the wizards and most classes. Al -Original Message- From: profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of geoff Sent: 09 August 2012 09:37 To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: RE: corrupted table and database issues I looked for advantages

RE: corrupted table and database issues

2012-08-09 Thread James Harvey
- From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of geoff Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2012 3:37 AM To: 'ProFox Email List' Subject: RE: corrupted table and database issues I looked for advantages and found few. I looked for disadvantages and found several. I look

RE: corrupted table and database issues

2012-08-09 Thread Tracy Pearson
James Harvey jhar...@hanoverpa.com wrote: It's been so long now that I cannot remember what drove me to use the DBC for this project. I have a number of other projects that do NOT take advantage of the DBC. Now I'm wondering what grief and aggravation would I endure if I were to decide to free

Re: corrupted table and database issues

2012-08-09 Thread Peter Cushing
James Harvey wrote: It's been so long now that I cannot remember what drove me to use the DBC for this project. I have a number of other projects that do NOT take advantage of the DBC. Now I'm wondering what grief and aggravation would I endure if I were to decide to free the tables and do

Re: corrupted table and database issues

2012-08-09 Thread Jeff Johnson
To: 'ProFox Email List' Subject: RE: corrupted table and database issues I looked for advantages and found few. I looked for disadvantages and found several. I look for recommendations from others, found none and steered well clear. No regrets. Fox is a great product. DBCs are the dark alley we

Re: corrupted table and database issues

2012-08-09 Thread Frank Cazabon
-637-6766 -Original Message- From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of geoff Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2012 3:37 AM To: 'ProFox Email List' Subject: RE: corrupted table and database issues I looked for advantages and found few. I looked

Re: corrupted table and database issues

2012-08-09 Thread Alan Bourke
On Thu, Aug 9, 2012, at 01:28 PM, Frank Cazabon wrote: James, I've been using DBCs since they first came into VFP without any problems at all. Me too. -- Alan Bourke alanpbourke (at) fastmail (dot) fm ___ Post Messages to:

RE: corrupted table and database issues

2012-08-09 Thread Dave Crozier
Bourke Sent: 09 August 2012 13:40 To: profox@leafe.com Subject: Re: corrupted table and database issues On Thu, Aug 9, 2012, at 01:28 PM, Frank Cazabon wrote: James, I've been using DBCs since they first came into VFP without any problems at all. Me too. -- Alan Bourke alanpbourke

RE: corrupted table and database issues

2012-08-09 Thread John Weller
+1 John Weller 01380 723235 07976 393631 Seconded... The only problems I ever had with dbc's were in the days when hardware/network cards were causing data corruption. Since using good hardware = no problems at all. ___ Post Messages to:

RE: corrupted table and database issues

2012-08-09 Thread James Harvey
-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Dave Crozier Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2012 8:54 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: RE: corrupted table and database issues Seconded... The only problems I ever had with dbc's were in the days when hardware/network cards were causing

Re: corrupted table and database issues

2012-08-09 Thread Paul Hill
On 9 August 2012 14:56, James Harvey jhar...@hanoverpa.com wrote: I've got two UPS, but they are useless if the power is off for 6 hours like this last incidence. Doesn't your UPS nicely shutdown the server when they are out of juice? -- Paul ___

RE: corrupted table and database issues

2012-08-09 Thread James Harvey
Hill Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2012 9:55 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: corrupted table and database issues On 9 August 2012 14:56, James Harvey jhar...@hanoverpa.com wrote: I've got two UPS, but they are useless if the power is off for 6 hours like this last incidence. Doesn't your UPS

RE: corrupted table and database issues

2012-08-09 Thread Dave Crozier
August 2012 15:12 To: 'ProFox Email List' Subject: RE: corrupted table and database issues No, didn't know they could do that? James E Harvey Corresponding Officer/M.I.S. Hanover Shoe Farms, Inc. www.hanoverpa.com office: 717-637-8931 cell: 717-887-2565 fax: 717-637-6766 -Original Message

RE: corrupted table and database issues

2012-08-09 Thread Dave Crozier
Oops that should have read James, not John Dave -Original Message- From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Dave Crozier Sent: 09 August 2012 15:12 To: ProFox Email List Subject: RE: corrupted table and database issues John, Most UPS's have

RE: corrupted table and database issues

2012-08-09 Thread James Harvey
...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Dave Crozier Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2012 10:13 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: RE: corrupted table and database issues John, Most UPS's have an interface (used to be serial but now is mostly USB) into the PC which can be monitored and hence initiate a graceful unattended

Re: corrupted table and database issues

2012-08-09 Thread Eurico Chagas Filho
: corrupted table and database issues I looked for advantages and found few. I looked for disadvantages and found several. I look for recommendations from others, found none and steered well clear. No regrets. Fox is a great product. DBCs are the dark alley we try to avoid. -Original Message

Re: corrupted table and database issues

2012-08-09 Thread Paul Hill
On 9 August 2012 15:12, Dave Crozier da...@flexipol.co.uk wrote: John, Most UPS's have an interface (used to be serial but now is mostly USB) into the PC which can be monitored and hence initiate a graceful unattended shutdown. The last time I used a UPS they were all serial! Windows NT4

RE: corrupted table and database issues

2012-08-08 Thread James Harvey
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Re: corrupted table and database issues

2012-08-08 Thread Jeff Johnson
On 08/08/2012 04:27 AM, James Harvey wrote: Thanks for the link, this utility looks interesting, and I see that version 2008b includes a DBC testing and repair option. The error number returned when trying to open the corrupted table was 1683. The cdx lost three indexes, and one field name

RE: corrupted table and database issues

2012-08-08 Thread James Harvey
[mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Johnson Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 8:11 AM To: profox@leafe.com Subject: Re: corrupted table and database issues On 08/08/2012 04:27 AM, James Harvey wrote: Thanks for the link, this utility looks interesting, and I see that version 2008b

Re: corrupted table and database issues

2012-08-08 Thread Peter Cushing
James Harvey wrote: The only issue I have with SDT is convincing the powers to be the price is worth it. We justified it by calculating how much time I spent on doing database updates to the main system and any offline versions. Your rate of pay for the time and the software pays for

RE: corrupted table and database issues

2012-08-08 Thread James Harvey
: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Peter Cushing Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 9:33 AM To: profox@leafe.com Subject: Re: corrupted table and database issues James Harvey wrote: The only issue I have with SDT is convincing the powers to be the price

Re: corrupted table and database issues

2012-08-08 Thread Peter Cushing
James Harvey wrote: In addition to the recreating indexes, would it also return the long field names so the dbc would validate properly? It will do some simple repairs to table headers but not sure if it fixes links to databases as never had that kind of error. I can send you the CHM file

RE: corrupted table and database issues

2012-08-08 Thread James Harvey
[mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Peter Cushing Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 10:01 AM To: profox@leafe.com Subject: Re: corrupted table and database issues James Harvey wrote: In addition to the recreating indexes, would it also return the long field names so the dbc would validate

Re: corrupted table and database issues

2012-08-08 Thread Jeff Johnson
Cushing Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 9:33 AM To: profox@leafe.com Subject: Re: corrupted table and database issues James Harvey wrote: The only issue I have with SDT is convincing the powers to be the price is worth it. We justified it by calculating how much time I spent on doing

Re: corrupted table and database issues

2012-08-08 Thread MB Software Solutions, LLC
On 8/8/2012 7:27 AM, James Harvey wrote: Thanks for the link, this utility looks interesting, and I see that version 2008b includes a DBC testing and repair option. The error number returned when trying to open the corrupted table was 1683. The cdx lost three indexes, and one field name was

Re: corrupted table and database issues

2012-08-08 Thread MB Software Solutions, LLC
On 8/8/2012 9:21 AM, James Harvey wrote: The only issue I have with SDT is convincing the powers to be the price is worth it. It's under $300! Good Lord! Count the cost of downtime to show it's value. -- Mike Babcock, MCP MB Software Solutions, LLC President, Chief Software Architect

Re: corrupted table and database issues

2012-08-08 Thread MB Software Solutions, LLC
On 8/8/2012 9:43 AM, James Harvey wrote: In addition to the recreating indexes, would it also return the long field names so the dbc would validate properly? It would put the database to exactly the state you said it should be in the image SDT saves for its structure. One of the must haves

Re: corrupted table and database issues

2012-08-08 Thread Dan Covill
The DBC was designed and implemented by the same folks that brought us the Registry. When we found out that names 10chars were implemented only in the DBC, and not the DBF, we did two things. First, we kept all field names to 10 chars so that IF we went to DBCs we wouldn't be depending on

RE: corrupted table and database issues

2012-08-07 Thread Richard Kaye
: corrupted table and database issues We had a power outage, and apparently this corrupted a table hshealth'. When I try to 'use' the table I get an error: Variable pk_hshealth is not found. This is the name of the primary key field, which is an auto increment field type. If I open

RE: corrupted table and database issues

2012-08-07 Thread Tracy Pearson
, 2012 9:45 AM To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: corrupted table and database issues We had a power outage, and apparently this corrupted a table hshealth'. When I try to 'use' the table I get an error: Variable pk_hshealth is not found. This is the name of the primary key field

Re: corrupted table and database issues

2012-08-07 Thread Alan Bourke
Restore to backup ? -- Alan Bourke alanpbourke (at) fastmail (dot) fm ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list:

RE: corrupted table and database issues

2012-08-07 Thread James Harvey
...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Tracy Pearson Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2012 9:56 AM To: profox@leafe.com Subject: RE: corrupted table and database issues Richard Kaye wrote on 2012-08-07: Did you use the RECOVER option when executing VALIDATE DATABASE? Make sure you have a copy of the table, index

Re: corrupted table and database issues

2012-08-07 Thread Gérard Lochon
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