Re: [PEDA] Logo's for FCC, UL and CE ?

2001-08-09 Thread Dan Kennedy
Is that cheek, or cheeks? As the moon rises in Minnesota... Dan Kennedy Great River Electronics Inc. Phil So wrote: > How about changing the location of the tattoo to one's > cheek. Then one can make a statement at each inspection ... > > Sorry! It's Friday here in New Zealand... > * * * *

Re: [PEDA] reg clean ? Rotate components with drag tracks

2001-08-09 Thread Dennis Saputelli
how did you clean the registry and what OS are you using? Dennis Saputelli Dave Eloranta wrote: > Hi > I was without the hole size editor for several months, then I lost x-y > coordinate display for library editing only. The only solution for me was to > completely uninstall all things Protel /

[PEDA] Is the war is over ? Nope on a rope....

2001-08-09 Thread Fabian Hartery
Hi all I would just like to inform the list that for those ogre's like me (PCAD+Protel user) Service Pack 2 for P-Cad 2001 fixed 'half' the transpose ability problem between packages. However, when I attempted to saved a P-Cad pwb as an ascii file, not only did Dr. Watson show up (re: NT 4.

Re: [PEDA] Logo's for FCC, UL and CE ?

2001-08-09 Thread Ian Wilson
On 05:32 PM 9/08/2001 -0400, Andrew J Jenkins said: >On 08:57 AM 8/10/2001 +1200, Phil So wrote: > >... How about changing the location of the tattoo to one's > >cheek. Then one can make a statement at each inspection ... > >It's impolite to moon CE officials. ;) > >aj But fun! iw * * * * *

Re: [PEDA] Logo's for FCC, UL and CE ?

2001-08-09 Thread Andrew J Jenkins

Re: [PEDA] Logo's for FCC, UL and CE ?

2001-08-09 Thread Phil So
This issue with CE marking has caused many of us lots of headaches. Wading through the standards documents, it becomes clear that they are the work committees where all the members want to have their say, whether or not it is of value or not. How about changing the location of the tattoo to one'

Re: [PEDA] Logo's for FCC, UL and CE ?

2001-08-09 Thread David Cuthbert
"Brad Velander" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Similarly, one can apply the same logic to resistors, >capacitors and other components. Unless there is a specific directive >which covers those types of components, they are covered under the >products most suitable directives and are the respon

Re: [PEDA] CF connector footprint

2001-08-09 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
Apologies for being way off topic, but we need some fun this summer... > You're welcome. I have seen your company in trade mags over the years. I > didn't know Tallahassee had a technology industry base. Are there electronic > design jobs? I do know it's one hella party town!!! Yeah, lots of par

Re: [PEDA] Logo's for FCC, UL and CE ?

2001-08-09 Thread Darryl Newberry
Alas, Partminer is no more, it was actually useful, so it had to go. It was acquired and promptly replaced by freetradezone, which sucks mightily, as do most monolithic, graphics-intensive, form-over-function, marketing-suit driven web ideas. BTW, I was being sarcastic about all the requests for

Re: [PEDA] Compactflash socket PCB footprint

2001-08-09 Thread Ted Tontis
I have 10 and they are all AMP foot prints. Sorry no JST. Ted -Original Message- From: Ted Tontis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2001 1:03 PM To: 'Protel EDA Forum' Subject: Re: [PEDA] Compactflash socket PCB footprint give me the foot print number you are lookin

Re: [PEDA] Logo's for FCC, UL and CE ?

2001-08-09 Thread Fabian Hartery
Darryl, I have found Copernic (www.copernic.com) most useful for general searches. It has a free basic version. I believe Partminer (www.partminer.com) and its associated Free Trade Zone are pretty good too. I use http://pw1.netcom.com/~dwsmith/index.html as my homepage, so I don't have to think

Re: [PEDA] Logo's for FCC, UL and CE ?

2001-08-09 Thread Brian Guralnick
Different Brian... Carl, Worst case scenario, you could use my picture-Gerber converter. For something like a CE logo, I don't really recommend it, my converter was really designed to bring in a complete graphic with shades for those who just must have it. So the CE logo would be built wit

Re: [PEDA] Logo's for FCC, UL and CE ?

2001-08-09 Thread Darryl Newberry
Download it from http://www.conformance.co.uk/CE_MARKING/CELOGO/ce_logo.html Anybody ever heard of this newfangled thing called an internet search engine? www.google.com Darryl Newberry Hardware Engineer Freedom Scientific, Inc 2850 SE Market Pl Stuart FL 34997 (561) 223-6443 http://www.free

Re: [PEDA] Compactflash socket PCB footprint

2001-08-09 Thread Darryl Newberry
JST # ICM-MA50H-SS52-1151 is NOT a SOCKET, its a HEADER (type I). Sorry, my bad... Darryl Newberry Hardware Engineer Freedom Scientific, Inc 2850 SE Market Pl Stuart FL 34997 (561) 223-6443 http://www.freedomscientific.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post

Re: [PEDA] Compactflash socket PCB footprint

2001-08-09 Thread Ted Tontis
give me the foot print number you are looking for I have a hand full. Ted -Original Message- From: Darryl Newberry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2001 12:53 PM To: 'Protel EDA Forum' Subject: Re: [PEDA] Compactflash socket PCB footprint I have a JST # ICM-MA50H-S

Re: [PEDA] Logo's for FCC, UL and CE ?

2001-08-09 Thread Schattke, Carl
Brian, I do not see any logo library in the Klipper tool. I down loaded the Protel99SE version. Is it in the Protel98 Version? Perhaps you can elaborate on where the logo library is accessed from the utility. Thanks, Carl Schattke -Original Message- From: Brian Watson [mailto:[EMAIL P

Re: [PEDA] Compactflash socket PCB footprint

2001-08-09 Thread Darryl Newberry
I have a JST # ICM-MA50H-SS52-1151 Darryl Newberry Hardware Engineer Freedom Scientific, Inc 2850 SE Market Pl Stuart FL 34997 (561) 223-6443 http://www.freedomscientific.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave

Re: [PEDA] Compactflash socket PCB footprint

2001-08-09 Thread Darryl Newberry
Be wary of the AMP connectors, last I checked they were going obso. I could be wrong or out of date. I have two Amp CF connectors (788643 & 788667), a > Hirosa (MI20-40-PD-SF, I think), and a Sametc (CFT) > smt connectors for CompactFlash. Let me know if you > want 'em. > > Jeff Stout > > *

Re: [PEDA] Rotate components with drag tracks

2001-08-09 Thread Dave Eloranta
Hi I was without the hole size editor for several months, then I lost x-y coordinate display for library editing only. The only solution for me was to completely uninstall all things Protel / client / pcb etc.. Then clean up the registry getting all program references removed. And finally reinstal

Re: [PEDA] Compactflash socket PCB footprint

2001-08-09 Thread Jeff Stout
I have two Amp CF connectors (788643 & 788667), a Hirosa (MI20-40-PD-SF, I think), and a Sametc (CFT) smt connectors for CompactFlash. Let me know if you want 'em. Jeff Stout - Original Message - From: "Bagotronix Tech Support" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTE

[PEDA] Compactflash socket PCB footprint

2001-08-09 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
Hello, all: Anyone got a CompactFlash socket SMT PCB footprint they can pass on to me? Or if not, any recommendations of a brand/part number? Anything going on with that discussion thread 2 weeks ago about a public domain PCB footprint website/list/whatever? Did the instigators of that other li

Re: [PEDA] The Mysteries of Altium, Jeraldo investigates stay tun ed.

2001-08-09 Thread Brian Guralnick
NOTE: Win2K will take an additional 15-20 seconds to boot if a SBLive is installed, AND an additional 20-25 seconds if Roxxio's Direct CD is installed. There are much better solutions to these 2 products which make them system boot faster & run smoother & faster in general. Brian Gur

Re: [PEDA] The Mysteries of Altium, Jeraldo investigates stay tuned.

2001-08-09 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
> I was reading all of this so seriously, until I got here. You made me snort coffee up my nose! Well, if you can't put Java in your brain, perhaps you can put it in your nose. Just remember: when you code, what comes out is Java Beans when you blow, what comes out is NOT Java Beans;-)

Re: [PEDA] The Mysteries of Altium, Jeraldo investigates stay tun ed.

2001-08-09 Thread Brian Guralnick
Shouldn't have any weird font or lockup problems with that. Maybe an anti-virus utility, or some sort of windows theme enhancement? Brian Guralnick - Original Message - From: "Andrew J Jenkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday,

Re: [PEDA] Logo's for FCC, UL and CE ?

2001-08-09 Thread Ted Tontis
check out www.ce-mag.com Ted -Original Message- From: Brad Velander [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2001 11:38 AM To: 'Protel EDA Forum' Subject: Re: [PEDA] Logo's for FCC, UL and CE ? Gisbert, I am not a CE compliance expert and I do not have access to t

Re: [PEDA] Logo's for FCC, UL and CE ?

2001-08-09 Thread Brad Velander
Gisbert, I am not a CE compliance expert and I do not have access to the statement from the CE group any longer (former life with a different employer). However the statement that I read clearly and specifically stated that computer PSUs and other similar PSUs could not bear the CE marking

Re: [PEDA] The Mysteries of Altium, Jeraldo investigates stay tuned.

2001-08-09 Thread Andrew J Jenkins

Re: [PEDA] PCB Wizard list

2001-08-09 Thread Dennis Saputelli
what's a .bdl file? Dennis Saputelli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Hi All, > > Having stored all my own templates in /Design Explorer > 99SE/System/Templates along with a nice little bitmap icon and a .bdl file > to match, I was wondering if anyone knows how I can change the order in > which thi

[PEDA] Service packs

2001-08-09 Thread Fabian Hartery
To all, It may be of little interest, but PCAD just budded another service pack. I am still awaiting the Controlium and Deletium fixes to go with Altium. C.A.D. by any other name. Fabe * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * *

Re: [PEDA] The Mysteries of Altium, Jeraldo investigates stay tun ed.

2001-08-09 Thread Brad Velander
I don't believe it has much bearing since this problem (commands going astray) is very very random and my machine configuration has been stable for long periods of time. The font change issue is something that I cannot recall ever seeing before. However my virtual Memory sizing is 1.6GB if it help

Re: [PEDA] The Mysteries of Altium, Jeraldo investigates stay tun ed.

2001-08-09 Thread Matt Pobursky
On Wed, 8 Aug 2001 15:57:38 -0400, Jeff Adolphs wrote: >I don't like the W2K reboot time, but if I don't reboot Protel99SE seems to >still be broken. >W2K takes a long time to reboot because its automaticly correcting files, >healing itself, and wondering why Protel99SE crashed! > The boot times

[PEDA] Protel Specctra interface Haiku

2001-08-09 Thread Darryl Newberry
I add teardrop arcs I export into Specctra Arcs now rectangles Darryl Newberry Hardware Engineer Freedom Scientific, Inc 2850 SE Market Pl Stuart FL 34997 (561) 223-6443 http://www.freedomscientific.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMA

Re: [PEDA] Logo's for FCC, UL and CE ?

2001-08-09 Thread ga
Your description is more precise than mine. Thank you. Gisbert "Heiko Vachek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 09.08.2001 15:45:19 Please respond to "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Protel EDA Forum'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cc: Subject: Re: [PEDA] Logo's for FCC, UL and CE ? > Not qu

Re: [PEDA] Footprint for sc70-5 needed

2001-08-09 Thread Konrad Iten
Hi Try this link : http://fairchildsemi.com/products/logic/packaging/sc70_5.html Best regards, Konrad - Original Message - From: "Coleman, Tim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Protel EDA user group Forum (E-mail)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2001 6:55 AM Subject: [PEDA]

Re: [PEDA] The Mysteries of Altium, Jeraldo investigates stay tun ed.

2001-08-09 Thread Andrew J Jenkins

[PEDA] Footprint for sc70-5 needed

2001-08-09 Thread Coleman, Tim
Anyone got one or know where to get one? Cheers TC * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * - or email - * mailto:[EMAIL PROT

Re: [PEDA] Logo's for FCC, UL and CE ?

2001-08-09 Thread Heiko Vachek
> Not quite correct, Brad. It is not illegal, to place a CE > mark on a power > supply, it only is not necessary, as the power supply will > not work for its > own, but only together with e.g. a PC. The complete system > has to carry the > CE mark, but system designers often ask for the compone

Re: [PEDA] Logo's for FCC, UL and CE ?

2001-08-09 Thread ga
>Brad Velander wrote: > >> Relax Jon, >> the CE requirements do not cover use of normal components in an >> assembly. It covers the product/assembly but the individual components are >> not covered separately as far as it effects you or I. The best example of >> this is computer power supp

Re: [PEDA] FYI "Protel's response to my printing problem"

2001-08-09 Thread Stephen
I don't have an answer to the Protel response, but have you tried a software redirector or reformater program between the Protel and the printer? We regularly use Fineprint from www.fineprint.com as a print to screen printer which simulates the printer output and allows you to pass it on to th

Re: [PEDA] Changes to the Protel company name

2001-08-09 Thread Waldemar Kulajew
Hi, Now I ve got a problem. It was forbidden to read [PEDA]-Mails during work. My Boss seen me nearly die laughing. <8-) Waldemar, even standing up from the Flor. Andrew J Jenkins schrieb: > > On 02:53 PM 8/7/2001 -0700, Brad Velander wrote: > >No Tim that would be, only if you "don't"

[PEDA] PCB Wizard list

2001-08-09 Thread michael . payne
Hi All, Having stored all my own templates in /Design Explorer 99SE/System/Templates along with a nice little bitmap icon and a .bdl file to match, I was wondering if anyone knows how I can change the order in which this will appear in the Wizard dialog box. Mike Payne Product Engineering ICON B

Re: [PEDA] Rotate components with drag tracks

2001-08-09 Thread Richard Thompson
Hi Phil and group Perhaps i should have been clearer, it rotates when dragging a component fine (with space) but if i do a (M)ove (C)omponent and then press the mouse to bring up the component selector, select the component i want jump to cursor and it will not rotate with space! Only if i then

Re: [PEDA] Logo's for FCC, UL and CE ?

2001-08-09 Thread Andy Gulliver
..and the fun bit is that it's down to the manufacturer or importer to determine which EEC directives need to be complied with! In the case of the PSU, the CE mark would be justified in compliance with the Low Voltage Directive (electrical safety) but for EMC it would depend on whether the PSU ha

Re: [PEDA] Router crashes (P99SE/SP6)

2001-08-09 Thread Andy Gulliver
Thanks for the tip, Rob I actually had a successful route last night, having first turned off the Sophos Sweep update service - so it looks like the culprit was the anti-virus auto-update. I might just try a control experiment tonight (same start file, AV update on) to be (more) sure. Regards

Re: [PEDA] Logo's for FCC, UL and CE ?

2001-08-09 Thread ga
Jon Elson wrote: >Right, the CE requirement is that all electrical components must bear the >CE mark at the full accepted size (I think it is around 5 cm?). This includes >EVERY component, including 0402 resistors! There are no exceptions >permitted, and any unit bearing even one such unlabeled