Re: [PEDA] PPC missing Component Pads on bottom layer

2002-07-18 Thread Linden Doyle
Paul, Have you included the Multilayer in the list of layers in the plot? Right click on the printout name in the PCBPrint Explorer Panel and select Properties. Add the Multilayer to the list. Another possibility is the colour assigned to the Multilayer layer is the same as the background.

Re: [PEDA] PPC missing Component Pads on bottom layer

2002-07-18 Thread Terry Creer

Re: [PEDA] 90 degree C?

2002-07-18 Thread Dwight Harm
Most of the ICs we use are only rated to 85 deg. C operating range. I'd hate to troubleshoot a board running 130degC components. -Original Message- From: Danny Bishop Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 6:21 PM hi Basically FR4 should run up to 130degC, and your semiconductor can most

Re: [PEDA] 90 degree C?

2002-07-18 Thread Danny Bishop
I would look at the junction temperature as the limiting factor if push comes to shove. The operating temperature is more of a rule of thumb. The 130degC really only refers to the board material itself anyway. -Original Message- From: Dwight Harm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent:

Re: [PEDA] PPC missing Component Pads on bottom layer

2002-07-18 Thread Rene Tschaggelar
Adding to the other comments : Don't forget to move the multilayer to the top of the layer list. Rene * Tracking #: 94B4AC7DD83DED45A6D614903264A28926197C48 *

Re: [PEDA] 90 degree C?

2002-07-18 Thread Dave Eloranta
Hi I have designed Ovenized oscillators operating in the 85 degree C range. At first we used standard FR4. The boards would turn brown and look as they were about to fall apart after a year or so. We switched to a high temp laminate G200 from Allied Signal at that time. The BT epoxy types have a

Re: [PEDA] 90 degree C?

2002-07-18 Thread Rene Tschaggelar
I've one seen a multilayer pcb technology where they have water circulating inside the pcb. Is the problem getting the heat away or has it to be that hot there ? Rene Michael Biggs wrote: Hi all, Anyone run very hot traces @ like 90 degree C on there PWBs and or use surface

Re: [PEDA] Anybody plagued by Protel executable corruptions recen tly? FIXED!

2002-07-18 Thread Brad Velander
Dennis Matt, these were the schematic configuration files found within the DDB. The fix, delete the existing file and let a new one be generated when you next annotate or generate a BOM. This problem was mimicking the problem that I had a couple of weeks ago when it seems some

Re: [PEDA] pdf output

2002-07-18 Thread Westfeldt, Pat

[PEDA] Does the Autorouter actually work?

2002-07-18 Thread Bill
Hi, I've been monitoring this group for a few months now. An associate has a job to make some changes to his customer's board, and the customer is using Protel 99SE SP6. Since he's not yet joined the group, he wanted me to post this for him: We're still hammering away at a 6-layer board

Re: [PEDA] Does the Autorouter actually work?

2002-07-18 Thread Tim Fifield
I have never had the autorouter work for me on anything more than a very basic 2 sided pcb. Even then, I don't like what it does. I do everything manually. Perhaps I need some training on how to run it properly Tim *

Re: [PEDA] Does the Autorouter actually work?

2002-07-18 Thread Joey Nelson
I've previously used the autorouter on a 6/6 4 layer board with out many problems. When using the autorouter I've always had to spend a lot of time cleaning up the routes. Since that time, I've stopped using the autorouter. After I saw how much better I can do by hand, with a little more effort

[PEDA] PEDA] Honeywell footprint

2002-07-18 Thread Michael Reagan (EDSI)

Re: [PEDA] Does the Autorouter actually work?

2002-07-18 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
Evidently I have much better luck with the autorouter than most of you folks do. I have used it on boards ranging from 2-sided to 8 layer. I admit that there are sometimes things it does which baffle me, but I don't get the design rule violations like was described in the original post. And I

Re: [PEDA] Does the Autorouter actually work?

2002-07-18 Thread Duane Foster
Are you starting the board 75% routed? If so, be sure all tracks are correctly assigned to nets before autorouting and be sure to lock preroutes if you do not want them altered. Of course 'locking preroutes' may not give the autorouter enough 'room' to put in remaining tracks, which leads to

Re: [PEDA] pdf output

2002-07-18 Thread Matt Pobursky
On Thu, 18 Jul 2002 10:48:40 -0600, Westfeldt, Pat wrote: When I loaded Acrobat 5, it only loaded distiller as a printer, which in other applications has been fine.  I got Protel 99SE to work a little better with distiller, by forcing open the pdf and saving as, before I went on to print the next

Re: [PEDA] Does the Autorouter actually work?

2002-07-18 Thread Jon Elson
Bagotronix Tech Support wrote: Evidently I have much better luck with the autorouter than most of you folks do. I have used it on boards ranging from 2-sided to 8 layer. I admit that there are sometimes things it does which baffle me, but I don't get the design rule violations like was

Re: [PEDA] PEDA] Honeywell footprint

2002-07-18 Thread Fabian Hartery
http://www.ssec.honeywell.com/microwave/products/AT4610specsheet.pdf Mike is this what you are looking for ? Fabe Fabian Hartery Research Engineer, B. Eng (Electrical) Guigne International Limited 63 Thorburn Road St. John's, Newfoundland, Canada A1B3M2 tel: 709-738-4070 fax: 709-738-4093

Re: [PEDA] PEDA] Honeywell footprint

2002-07-18 Thread Harry Selfridge
Hi Mike, Page three of the data sheet at: http://www.ssec.honeywell.com/microwave/products/AT4610specsheet.pdf points to the mechanical data at: http://www.asat.com/library/drawings/mod/dgmj4i.pdf The mechanical data is quite detailed, and you should be able to develop a PCB footprint

Re: [PEDA] Does the Autorouter actually work?

2002-07-18 Thread Lloyd Johnson
In my experience the autorouter works well when starting from scratch 2 or 4 layer boards. You have to get the design rules right for the density you are hoping to accomplish. I have not had good luck invoking the auto-router to just route a few new added parts to an existing high density

Re: [PEDA] PEDA] Honeywell footprint

2002-07-18 Thread Michael Reagan (EDSI)
Harry MANY THANKS Mike - Original Message - From: Harry Selfridge [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 1:53 PM Subject: Re: [PEDA] PEDA] Honeywell footprint Hi Mike, Page three of the data sheet at:

Re: [PEDA] Does the Autorouter actually work?

2002-07-18 Thread Dennis Saputelli
i think Lloyd's assessment here is pretty spot on the router prefers an empty board, depending on your level of fussiness it may not be suitable for your work Lloyd Johnson wrote: In my experience the autorouter works well when starting from scratch 2 or 4 layer boards. You have to get the

[PEDA] New Simulation Model

2002-07-18 Thread MSIsallen

Re: [PEDA] Does the Autorouter actually work?

2002-07-18 Thread Phillip Stevens
B 2. The autorouter finishes, announces that it has completed 87% of the board B (or something like that), and leaves behind hundreds of design rule B violations, mainly shorts and clearance violations. Tracks will be on top of B each other and on top of vias. Vias will be in tooling holes.

[PEDA] ODBC errors

2002-07-18 Thread Hugh Stevenson
Hello, I am going a bit crazy with ODBC errors. I know this is an old problem but I can't remember what to do about it. I am running 99SE SP6. Win 2000. I am not doing anything different from normal but I am having the ODBC message when I try to save, my file is not saved and will not save