Re: [PEDA] P99SE has Altzheimers' ?

2003-09-20 Thread John A. Ross
-Original Message- From: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 19, 2003 8:15 PM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] P99SE has Altzheimers' ? At 07:02 AM 9/19/2003, John A. Ross [Design] wrote: But as for a point by point, and ease of use, UI

Re: [PEDA] P99SE has Altzheimers' ?

2003-09-20 Thread Ian Wilson
On 08:40 PM 19/09/2003, John A. Ross [Design] said: -Original Message- From: Ian Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 19, 2003 1:41 AM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] P99SE has Altzheimers' ? ..snip.. I deleted a whole lot of more contentious stuff,

Re: [PEDA] P99SE has Altzheimers' ?

2003-09-20 Thread Ian Wilson
On 10:50 PM 19/09/2003, Robert M. Wolfe said: John, Not sure if they did this yet but if the Autorouter for PADS is now the Expedition (VeriBest) autorouter I would state they not in the same ballpark, and quite frankly not in the same universe. Never looked at their Blaze Router though, but

Re: [PEDA] P99SE has Altzheimers' ?

2003-09-20 Thread Hamid A. Wasti
Ian Wilson wrote: I am very interested in this but the numbers seem hard to come by. Can anyone give a purchase and annual cost for other packages that include Sch capture, PCB, autorouter and simulation? It may be instructive to try to set up some sort of table to collate this stuff. When I

Re: [PEDA] P99SE has Altzheimers' ?

2003-09-20 Thread Robert M. Wolfe
Steve, I would check it out at Mentor Graphics site, I do know just before Mentor bought VeriBest, VeriBest had made the router a standalone router to be able to sell it as such. I believe Mentor kept it that way to compete against Specctra. They at least would have had to do this to interface

Re: [PEDA] P99SE has Altzheimers' ?

2003-09-20 Thread Robert M. Wolfe
John, I hear ya, I don't have the luxury of having another seat of something with autorouting that works at the moment. Right now our fornt end is Orcad so I too have a backannotation situation to deal with too. I really wished Protel had released the autorouter I hoped it would be. As it is now I

Re: [PEDA] P99SE has Altzheimers' ?

2003-09-20 Thread Jim Walker
Ian Orcad just had a sale with Capture, Pspice, and Layout for $10,000. I believe that included an autorouter. The regular price was $22,000. Jim Walker Walker Power Design, Inc. Ian Wilson wrote: On 10:50 PM 19/09/2003, Robert M. Wolfe said: John, Not sure if they did this yet but if the