the job of communicating
with the software much better. Perhaps Electra is similar?
Bill Brooks
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From: edsi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 13
It may be the spam filtering software... ours captures messages from the
forum and tags them and sends me a list of the tagged e-mails so I can
manually choose which ones I want to read.
You may have similar software where you are.
Bill Brooks
PCB Design Engineer , C.I.D., C.I.I.
Tel: (760
We need to gather a bunch of programmers and designers together and beat
this one out... after a few brews and a couple of black eyes, we might
actually be able to get what the industry really needs.
Bill Brooks
PCB Design Engineer , C.I.D., C.I.I.
Tel: (760)597-1500 Ext 3772 Fax: (760)597-1510
mited text, spread sheet or Excel format, and
'text'.. which is ASCII text.
Hope that helps clear it up... I know the options can be a little cryptic if
you have not seen them before.
Best regards,
Bill Brooks
PCB Design Engineer , C.I.D., C.I.I.
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-Original Message-
From: Brooks,Bill
Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2004 1:18 PM
Subject: FW: TONIGHT!!! SDDC Meeting Embedded Passives
Last Reminder -
The meeting is Tonight! This is it... don't forget the seminar on Embedded
Passives is at Overland Storage tonight at 5:30PM to 9
India and China are training them as fast as they can...
Bill Brooks
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To: &#
than I thought
Bill Brooks
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From: Mike Reagan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 10:49 AM
To: 'Protel EDA Forum'
Subject: Re: [
ads... but they are
mostly not in the Southwest of the U.S.
How about it Altium... how many active seats of Protel are there?
Bill Brooks
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again...
Perhaps that is what is keeping your editor from opening the files...
Bill Brooks
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From: Steve Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 26
ity of the needs of the majority of
designers that use it. We would like to see them fix the issues we have and
add the features we want and then we think it would be awesome.
Bill Brooks
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mil holes with 24 mil pads in a .062 thick or
thinner board.
Bill Brooks
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-Original Message-
From: Back, Norb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2004 1:00 PM
To:
Having trouble with Adobe Acrobat 6.0 professional and printing from Protel
99SE. It worked as a printer device with Acrobat 5.0 but now it seems to not
work... Has anyone dealt with this before? Any work arounds or fixes?
Thanks in advance...
Bill Brooks
PCB Design Engineer , C.I.D., C.I.I.
Tel
I have used 14/24 successfully without any manufacturing price/yield issues.
When you go below that threshold the price starts to climb.
Bill Brooks
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prestigious award for a PCB designer who used
Protel. A good idea.
Bill Brooks
PCB Design Engineer , C.I.D., C.I.I.
Tel: (760)597-1500 Ext 3772 Fax: (760)597-1510
-Original Message-
From: Abd ulRahman Lomax [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 10:24 AM
To: Protel
ures.
In the mean time, it gets my work done and for that, I cannot complain.
All the best,
Bill Brooks
PCB Design Engineer , C.I.D., C.I.I.
Tel: (760)597-1500 Ext 3772 Fax: (760)597-1510
-Original Message-
From: Mike Reagan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 7:51
www.vts.com/delmar/Dellocal.htm
<http://www.vts.com/delmar/Dellocal.htm>
Best Regards,
Bill Brooks, CID, CII
Communications Officer, SD IPCDC
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e SOT-23 (pin 2) for layout sake, but it
will generate an error on your board when you run DRC...
Any sharp designers out there have a tip or trick for dealing with these or
other scenarios?
Bill Brooks
PCB Design Engineer , C.I.D., C.I.I.
Tel: (760)597-1500 Ext 377
http://www10.edacafe.com/book/SpiceHandBook/index.php
Is that what you are looking for?
The SPICE Handbook of 50 Basic Circuits
Steven M. Sandler and Analytical Engineering, Inc
Bill Brooks
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reason to the mix.
Bill Brooks
PCB Design Engineer , C.I.D., C.I.I.
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From: Harry Lemmens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 6:36 PM
To: Protel EDA Forum
Subject: Re: [PEDA] Would it not be nice?
I
Yes I do get the option of assigning pins based upon the layout... but its
frustrating and a manual process without Pin/Gate swap features in the
Protel Software.
Bill Brooks
PCB Design Engineer , C.I.D., C.I.I.
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How do you output your fab drawing?
Bill Brooks
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convert their old legacy databases into their new purchased format.
I believe Altium/Protel has lost its 'common sense'... or maybe PCB designer
sense at the very least.
Bill Brooks
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Tel: (760)597-1500 Ext 3772 Fax: (760)597-1510
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mm that's another subject.
If Mentor was cheaper Protel would not have a chance. Hang in there Protel
and get the product working before sending it out. And... listen to your
customers...
Best regards,
Bill Brooks
PCB Design Engineer , C.I.D., C.I.I.
Tel: (760)597-1500 Ext 3772 Fax: (760)597-15
I'm sure they were former auto salesmen ... 'oh, you want brakes with it...
well that's the diamond option, and a steering wheel? Well you need the
platinum option...' etc... etc..
Bill Brooks
PCB Design Engineer , C.I.D., C.I.I.
Tel: (760)597-1500 Ext 3772 Fax: (760)597-
B Design Manual by Norman S.
Einarson " A great book that was distributed by Coretec a number of years
ago.
It sounds like your board will be a candidate for fiducials on the panel.
Bill Brooks
PCB Design Engineer , C.I.D., C.I.I.
Tel: (760)597-1500 Ext 3772 Fax: (760)597-1510
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2nd Best... would be Cadence. The features are similar but the user
interface is 10 years behind. Similar cost, similar time to get up and
running... similar maintenance...similar modularity.
Bill Brooks
PCB Design Engineer , C.I.D., C.I.I.
Tel: (760)597-1500 Ext 3772 Fax: (760)597-1510
nd your
company very well. Some folks need the capabilities that are not available
in Protel and can afford to buy them. For the rest of us, there is Protel.
Bill Brooks
PCB Design Engineer , C.I.D., C.I.I.
Tel: (760)597-1500 Ext 3772 Fax: (760)597-1510
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From: Ra
ings like board outlines,
dimensions, etc...
We use the schematic package here that comes with Protel and we get by with
it. Have for the last 3 years.
Bill Brooks
PCB Design Engineer , C.I.D., C.I.I.
TITAN CORPORATION
DATRON WORLD COMMUNICATIONS DIVISION
3030 Enterprise Court, Vista, CA 92083
ROTFL...
Bill Brooks
PCB Design Engineer , C.I.D., C.I.I.
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-Original Message-
From: Mike Reagan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 9:15 AM
To: 'Protel EDA Forum'
Subject: Re: [PEDA] Creating selective keep
on or
DRC but can be brought back onto the layer when changes are needed that
require using the router again.
Bill Brooks
PCB Design Engineer , C.I.D., C.I.I.
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-Original Message-
From: Ray Mitchell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, Ap
. I also write articles for PCD&M
magazine...
Hmmm.. I think I might need a vacation. lol
Bill Brooks
PCB Design Engineer , C.I.D., C.I.I.
Tel: (760)597-1500 Ext 3772 Fax: (760)597-1510
-Original Message-
From: Jaurique, Brad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 20
This is serious Mike.
I would go back to the old software and get my customer happy first... and
take this up with tech support. Sounds like Protel is still performing true
to form... release it before its done and fix it on the designer's time...
and nickel.
How disappointing...
Bill B
ks we could live anywhere.
Bill Brooks
PCB Design Engineer , C.I.D., C.I.I.
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-Original Message-
From: Bagotronix Tech Support [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 9:13 AM
To: Protel EDA Forum
Subject: Re: [PEDA] hors
o with horses and buggy's
again... whew... that would be a site.
Bill Brooks
PCB Design Engineer , C.I.D., C.I.I.
Tel: (760)597-1500 Ext 3772 Fax: (760)597-1510
As to cars vs. horses, all I can say is that I find the emissions of cars to
be much more tolerable than the emissions of horse
nter for one of those ITT Tech schools of
some sort. I wish it had been at Altium HQ that would have been even closer
for me.
Bill Brooks
PCB Design Engineer , C.I.D., C.I.I.
Tel: (760)597-1500 Ext 3772 Fax: (760)597-1510
Trip? what trip, aren't you located there in Vista there just ab
rk. But
I am getting better at it... it's a REAL pain. The things we do to make a
living... LOL
Bill Brooks
PCB Design Engineer , C.I.D., C.I.I.
Tel: (760)597-1500 Ext 3772 Fax: (760)597-1510
-Original Message-
From: Mike Reagan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 10,
like.times
UP!...
All my best and in good humor.
Bill Brooks
PCB Design Engineer , C.I.D., C.I.I.
Tel: (760)597-1500 Ext 3772 Fax: (760)597-1510
-Original Message-
From: Mike Reagan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 10:01 AM
To: 'Protel EDA Forum'
standardize the industry from design through assembly.
(And no I'm not getting paid to say that... lol) Check it out. It will
replace the IPC-SM-782 spec on surface mount components.
I'll copy the release below for your reference...
Bill Brooks
PCB Design Engineer , C.I.D., C.I.I.
Tel
great it
was... but I can guarantee I won't 'get my knickers in a knot' worrying
about it.
(I just love that one... 'Knickers in a Knot'... I heard that on TV the
other night )
Bill Brooks
PCB Design Engineer , C.I.D., C.I.I.
Tel: (760)597-1500 Ext 3772 Fax: (760)597-1
t complain... you could be starving... right? Now shut
up and drink your vodka and eat your moldy bug ridden bread. Life is good
here...
Bill Brooks
PCB Design Engineer , C.I.D., C.I.I.
Tel: (760)597-1500 Ext 3772 Fax: (760)597-1510
-Original Message-
From: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax [mail
Funny, I blame Microsoft for our acceptance of software with 'bugs' in it...
I tell you what... If I found bugs in something I bought from the grocery
store... I would take it back.
Bill Brooks
PCB Design Engineer , C.I.D., C.I.I.
Tel: (760)597-1500 Ext 3772 Fax: (760)597-1510
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seen the new product release for 2004... but I have seen
DXP... and 99SE, and 99, and 98, and 2.5 ... so when do we get what we want?
Bill Brooks
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I happen to know of a 4 month or longer assignment that requires a Protel
Designer with Protel 99SE SP6 experience. If you know of someone in the San
Diego area that could do this job please send me a resume so I can forward
it to the interested party.
Bill Brooks
PCB Design Engineer , C.I.D
http://www.outputcity.com/
The above link will take you to the website for the people we use to get
film converted to Gerber. They do a great job.
Ask for Holly.
Bill Brooks
PCB Design Engineer , C.I.D., C.I.I.
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d its benefits and
down sides? Have you personally used it, how long, what sort of problems
have you seen, what are the cost issues?
Best Regards,
Bill Brooks
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on the top
layer and ends on an inner layer it does not show up on the printout.
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The moderator of this e-mail news/discussion group needs to filter out Auto
replies from getting re-broadcast to all of us... this guys piers is in some
sort of loop repeating over and over with each e-mail his auto reply sends
it auto replies to itself...
Bill Brooks
"The person who sa
ean by 'mounted rails' is somewhat unclear to me. Are you getting
copper bar stock and machining it to mount it on the board? Are you
referring to 'Bus Bars' that solder into the card? Please explain..
Bill Brooks, CID
-Original Message-
From: Brian Guralnick [mailto:[EMA
ts'. As soon as you generate the
netlist the Design explorer recognizes that the schematic is a multi sheet
schematic and rearranges the order into a hierarchical order indicating the
dependence of the sheets on the 'Dummy' Master sheet. That seems to work for
me. Hopefully that gets
ear.net.nz/pages/joecolquitt/0makepcb.html
http://www.steveonweb.com/pcb.php
http://www.fullnet.com/u/tomg/gooteepc.htm
some fun reading there... good luck!
Bill Brooks, CID
-Original Message-
From: Nagaraj [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 3:09 AM
To: Protel EDA Forum
S
Hi Ian,
I have run Protel 99SE sp6 on my laptop on Win XP Pro. No problems so far..
Most of the machines we have that run Protel are running Win 2K Pro.
Both operating systems seem to be ok with Protel 99SE sp6 as far as I know.
Bill Brooks
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From: Ian Wilson [mailto
received any patch to fix it.. so we suffer
with it.
We have a HP DesignJet 650C and a HP DesignJet 800 (24"wide roll paper feed)
Both have minor issues with plotting but we get by. The fonts get messed up
on one and the line codes for dashed lines come out too small to see on the
other.
Bill B
e PIN Circles
either.
I found if I choose to print the file in picture or bitmap mode it prints
visible but if I use HPGL2 as the mode for printing the circles and dashed
lines do not print. Has Protel every created a patch to fix this? I think
it's been bad since version 98.
Thanks -
Bill B
I have noticed that the "NOT" indicator or Bar over the signal name
'feature' in Protel Schematic plots incorrectly on the HP Plotter when
printing my schematic. Have any of you seen this before and what is causing
it? How can I work around this problem?
Bill Brooks
PCB Des
l and whether you use the
windows file system or store your files in the DDB.
Bill Brooks
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From: Tony Karavidas [mailto:tony@;encoreelectronics.com]
Sent: Friday, October 25, 2002 11:21 PM
To: 'Protel EDA Forum'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [PEDA] Windows
hey
also had us draft them large to avoid the same problem.
Some of you may remember the old 'hump' at crossovers we used to use to make
sure no one mis-interpreted the cross over as a connect spot. We did away
with those in preference to the simpler connect dot rule. That's the one
a lot of money. Their customers will work
for them for free too, because they are able to use the software
successfully and easily. What goes around, comes around...
Bill Brooks
PCB Design Engineer , C.I.D., C.I.I.
TITAN SYSTEMS CORPORATION
DATRON WORLD COMMUNICATIONS DIVISION
3030 Enterprise C
Correct me if I am wrong, but doesn't Protel 98 give the option of saving
the schematic in Orcad version 7 format?
Bill Brooks
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From: Tony Karavidas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2002 1:44 PM
To: 'Protel EDA Forum'
Sub
ere were many parts and it did seem a daunting task to
have to do them all by manual entry... We are going to write a little
procedure to help us remember how to do it correctly in the future. I just
love discovering work-arounds for non-intuitive user interface programming
choices. Don't you
:)
Bill Brooks
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Does the new DXP have reports like "Last Used Ref Des", or "Un-used Ref
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Bill Brooks
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ocking all components).Now I want to
unlock all of the components on this test board, but I don't see the equivilent
of the GLOBAL command anywhere. Looked in the help section, but not too
helpful. All I'm able to do right now is select each component and manually
unlock it.
All hel
Hi,
I've been monitoring this group for a few months now. An associate has a job
to make some changes to his customer's board, and the customer is using Protel
99SE SP6. Since he's not yet joined the group, he wanted me to post this for
him:
We're still hammering away at a 6-layer board w
ed in the Fab Drawing.
Bill Brooks
PCB Design Engineer , C.I.D., C.I.I.
TITAN SYSTEMS CORPORATION
DATRON WORLD COMMUNICATIONS DIVISION
3030 Enterprise Court
Vista, CA 92083
Tel: (760)597-1500 Ext 3772 Fax: (760)597-1510
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-Origi
I have seen something similar... I had to re-install. - BB
-Original Message-
From: Cam Andruik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 10:30 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [PEDA] All Servers gone
Well this is wierd. Yesterday Protel worked fine. Today I start it up
Well, it seems Mentor has decided to purchase Innoveda...
http://biz.yahoo.com/djus/020424/20020424001913_1.html
Interesting...
- Bill B
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What is this? a new form of SPAM?
- Bill
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From: Bob Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 9:12 AM
To: Protel EDA Forum
Subject: [PEDA] send info.
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From: "Carl Schattke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: &
Just a few questions that might help solve the prob...
is it capitalized or lower case?
there is an option when placing text that lets you select from a pop down
dialog box the "smart text" you want... did you select it from there?
- Bill Brooks
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From:
Does anyone know if the new DXP software is going to allow PIN SWAPPING or
GATE SWAPPING? Its a feature that I think Protel ought to be able to do... I
have not been able to do that yet with the software... Anyone have a 3rd
party solution?
Bill Brooks
PCB Design Engineer , C.I.D.
TITAN
It was at the PCBWEST show... Very impressive changes... user interface
improvements are nice... They demo'd it at the users group meeting on
Wednesday... They still have some areas they are working on but it looks
much nicer, we shall see when we get through the beta testing, eh?
Bill B
. It keeps it all in
the same package, and would be much easier to tweak or change when
conceptualizing the board. We still do this with parts and bare
punchboards now. I do see that different users would still want the
hooks to the outside world
Just my take...
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I don't use it... - BB
-Original Message-
From: Afshin Salehi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2002 9:17 AM
To: Protel Forum
Subject: [PEDA] Autoplacer
Hey everyone,
I was wondering if anyone has had any luck with the autoplace
function? I
have played with
ic in the window... what's
up with that? You think it decided to drop them due to a conflict?
We have about 8 licenses here...
- Bill Brooks
P.S. I called Altium(Protel) and tried to get a Tech Support person to help
me... all I got was a recording... and they will get to my message
Tango, and Accell used the .pcb file format.
Bill Brooks
PCB Design Engineer , C.I.D.
DATRON WORLD COMMUNICATIONS, INC
3030 Enterprise Court
Vista, CA 92083
Tel: (760)597-1500 Ext 3772 Fax: (760)597-1510
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IPC Designers Council, San Diego Chapter
http://www.ipc.org
d checking the
signals, so a couple of the engineering were wondering about that
capability.
Bill Brooks
PCB Design Engineer , C.I.D.
DATRON WORLD COMMUNICATIONS, INC
3030 Enterprise Court
Vista, CA 92083
Tel: (760)597-1500 Ext 3772 Fax: (760)597-1510
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IPC
Interesting Just what is Protel having a problem with? When trying to
import the gerber into a blank pcb file in protel, the error message said
that protel choked on the comment lines with the long set of dashes in
them... go figure...
- Bill Brooks
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From: T
Georg Beckmann mentioned having a little utility to convert the GERBER
output from CAMTASIC to PROTEL compatible Gerber for import to Protel.
Does anyone have this file they can make available to me? I would like to
test it on some boards I am plying with. Could be very useful thanks
Bill
Hi Georg, Could I get a copy of the Gerber translator program you mentioned
in this post?
- Bill Brooks
Bill Brooks
PCB Design Engineer , C.I.D.
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Vista, CA 92083
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program. So apparently as long as the mounting holes are free
pads without being a component the netlist macro generator will ignore
them... nice. I just need to make sure that the older designs do not have
the mounting holes as components... :)
- Bill Brooks
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From
ck it every time now... :)
Bill Brooks
PCB Design Engineer , C.I.D.
DATRON WORLD COMMUNICATIONS, INC
3030 Enterprise Court
Vista, CA 92083
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http://www.ipc.org/SanDiego/
http://home.fd
print pad.
My other suggestion was made without having known about the "No-connect"
option in the plane connect rules... That's a nice feature... It does reduce
the possibility of having a confusion over the DRC error problem. Thanks
Bill Brooks
PCB Design Engineer , C.I.D.
DATRON
hen
you can define a rule for "plane connect" and set the "power plane connect
style" filter kind to "PAD" and and look for "free pad 1" and set the Rule
Attributes to "No Connect". This will make a clearance around the pad based
on the clearance rul
that helps...
Bill Brooks
PCB Design Engineer , C.I.D.
DATRON WORLD COMMUNICATIONS, INC
3030 Enterprise Court
Vista, CA 92083
Tel: (760)597-1500 Ext 3772 Fax: (760)597-1510
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http://home.fda.net
Hi Tony,
Got one question... please... Do you have a configuration management group
where you work?...
- Bill Brooks
-Original Message-
From: Tony Karavidas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2001 3:00 PM
To: Protel EDA Forum
Subject: Re: [PEDA] Protel usage
I
ter of none... and when
do we get to put our feet up on the desk like that guy who's in the picture
on the box?
As a caveat, I still like Protel better than PADS... (which truly sucks with
terrific force...) all things are relative...after all :)
Still wish they had not used the Explorer con
miliar 1.4 mils thick copper we all know and love That copper sheet
material was then laminated or applied to an insulator backing and the PCB
was born.. :) (don't ya love legends)
Can't remember where I heard it... but it made sense... Might as well retell
it...
- Bill Brooks
-
ars... Join the other Cad companies in their
greed... end up in the graveyard with them... Its just common sense. This
stuff always seems to happen when small companies make the transition to
High overhead large companies.. Top heavy sales staffs, and support groups
that are under funded...oh well my 2
t the parts...
that is inside the edit module... fork over more cash"... etc...
etc..
- Bill Brooks
-Original Message-
From: Bagotronix Tech Support [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2001 8:41 AM
To: Protel EDA Forum
Subject: Re: [PEDA] ATS
> Screw them
This is also how we do it... I bring in the gerber from their scans and put
it on mechanical layers in the Protel database. The I place the components
on top of the image and move the traces from the mechanical layers to the
trace layers. - Bill Brooks
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From: Dennis
at too. I even heard of a guy that
was milling off the layers of a board, one at a time, and photographing the
circuits to recreate lost artwork. I guess it is done, but sounds like a lot
of work! - Bill Brooks
Bill Brooks
PCB Design Engineer , C.I.D.
DATRON WORLD COMMUNICATIONS, INC
3030 Enterpr
zeros... which is a bother, because we use part numbers with leading
zeros... Guess there's always a fly in the ointment... It makes the tool
useless to me.
- Bill Brooks
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From: Richard Thompson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 5:57 AM
To: P
eal with a
board with zero parts on it. So it hangs... anyone else seen this?
Bill Brooks
PCB Design Engineer , C.I.D.
DATRON WORLD COMMUNICATIONS, INC
3030 Enterprise Court
Vista, CA 92083
Tel: (760)597-1500 Ext 3772 Fax: (760)597-1510
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
IPC Designers Council, San Die
Hello Group,
Can anyone make some suggestions as to available standards besides IPC to use
for PCB design. The current feeling here is that IPC is may be too loose for
current state of the art..
Thanks,
Bill Pullen
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I can take this project on when I retire ;)
Just kidding... I have a web site that could host this info but I don't have
enough space to hold the library... Maybe we could get some free webspace to
hold it and then it would be a possibility...
Bill Brooks
PCB Design Engineer
e work is divided up among a large
group its very possible to do amazing things... Protel people are some of
the best technical people around... think about it. You can make a
difference, even if its only a small difference, it adds up. You are a great
bunch keep up the ideas... :)
- Bill Broo
Try increasing the pre-heater temp or slow the conveyer speed. You need the
top side of the board at 200 degrees F before contacting the wave.
Bill Pullen
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From: Harry Selfridge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, July 20, 2001 12:54 PM
To: Protel EDA Forum
Hi Richard,
I would suggest that you check your setup on Design Rules for the
autorouter. It may be that the spacing you are telling the program to
maintain is so large that there are no paths for the router to take that
would not violate the spacing rule.
- Bill Brooks
Bill Brooks
PCB Design
s, rather than
give us a tool to do purchasing's job...
Their policy of adding unnecessary 'hoopla' and 'fluff' to the program has
not abated..it continues with reckless abandon... :(
(rant mode off)
Bill Brooks
PCB Design Engineer
DATRON WORLD COMMUNICATIONS INC.
3030
you using?
What other software is running while you are trying to use Protel?
Bill Brooks
PCB Design Engineer
DATRON WORLD COMMUNICATIONS INC.
3030 Enterprise Court
Vista, CA 92083
Tel: (760)597-1500 Ext 3772 Fax: (760)597-1510
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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