Re: [PEDA] Serious Bug: Polygons still connecting to pads after the net has been changed to something other then the polygon net name.

. The online drc then shows the error as it should. BUT If I repour the polygon it ignores the different net keepout and acts as if the keepout isn't even there. Similar but different problem. Thanks Wayne Trow PCB Design Technician Gallagher Group LTD Hamilton NEW ZEALAND [p] +64 7 838 9800 ext

Re: [PEDA] Win2000

Ive just had IS upgrade my pc to win2k and Protel, over the small period that ive been using win2k, seems to work just as good as my previous OS - WinNT4. Other people may have different opinions though. Wayne Trow PCB Design Technician Gallagher Group LTD Hamilton NEW ZEALAND [p] +64 7 838

[PEDA] Polygon Vertices

Hi All, Quicky #2. How do I delete polygon vertices? Wayne Trow PCB Design Technician Gallagher Group LTD Hamilton NEW ZEALAND [p] +64 7 838 9800 ext 8737 [f] +64 7 838 9801 [e] [EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto

[PEDA] Polygon Vertices

Dont worry - found it ! When Move polyGon and clicked on vertex hit delete - logical really !! Wayne Trow PCB Design Technician Gallagher Group LTD Hamilton NEW ZEALAND [p] +64 7 838 9800 ext 8737 [f] +64 7 838 9801 [e] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Forwarded by Wayne Trow/GGL on 07/02/02 09:24

[PEDA] Polygons

Hi all Quicky... Can you do a global change on polygons? Wayne Trow PCB Design Technician Gallagher Group LTD Hamilton NEW ZEALAND [p] +64 7 838 9800 ext 8737 [f] +64 7 838 9801 [e] [EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto

Re: [PEDA] Polygons

What I want to do is change to track width and grid spacing globally. But considering its within the dialog box of the polygon I would say that its not possible. Thanks anyway Wayne Trow PCB Design Technician Gallagher Group LTD Hamilton NEW ZEALAND [p] +64 7 838 9800 ext 8737 [f] +64 7 838

[PEDA] Component primatives

the associated net to the primitives. Am I doing sometime wrong or is this the way its meant to be? Wayne Trow PCB Design Technician Gallagher Group LTD Hamilton NEW ZEALAND [p] +64 7 838 9800 ext 8737 [f] +64 7 838 9801 [e] [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [PEDA] Camtastic

GC-CAMEdit and Powerstation are graphicode products www.graphicode.com Wayne Trow PCB Design Technician Gallagher Group LTD Hamilton NEW ZEALAND [p] +64 7 838 9800 ext 8737 [f] +64 7 838 9801 [e] [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [PEDA] Camtastic

Tom, what are the settings you use to get the text showing up ? as I cant seem to recreate your problem. please elaborate Wayne Trow PCB Design Technician Gallagher Group LTD Hamilton NEW ZEALAND [p] +64 7 838 9800 ext 8737 [f] +64 7 838 9801 [e] [EMAIL PROTECTED

[PEDA] New version of the Protel/AutoCAD 3D modeler.

for AutoCAD 2000, 2000i and 2002. There is a free 30 day trial available for download. For more info, go to www.desktop-eda.com.au Wayne Trow PCB Design Technician Gallagher Group LTD Hamilton New Zealand * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto

[PEDA] Footprint field on sch (was: On the SCH but not the PCB)

fields on the schematic? Wayne Trow PCB Design Technician Gallagher Group LTD Hamilton NEW ZEALAND [p] +64 7 838 9800 ext 8737 [f] +64 7 838 9801 [e] [EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list

Re: [PEDA] Protel Viewer

. Graphicode have a gerber viewer that is free - GC-Preview - go to www.graphicode.com. Hope this helps Wayne Trow PCB Design Technician Gallagher Group LTD Hamilton NEW ZEALAND [p] +64 7 838 9800 ext 8737 [f] +64 7 838 9801 [e] [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [PEDA] BOM question

This is a stab in the dark but on sw1-3 have you got any settings selected like hidden fields. What fields are you BOMing? Wayne Trow PCB Design Technician Gallagher Group LTD Hamilton NEW ZEALAND [p] +64 7 838 9800 ext 8737 [f] +64 7 838 9801 [e] [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [PEDA] Polygon at non 45degree angles

Nicholas, To change the shape of a polygon go edit/ Move/ polyGon vertices (M,G). To add a vertex to an edge click on the cross-thingy in the centre of the edge line. Dont think you can do arcs but I could be wrong - its happened before !! : -) Hope this helps Wayne Trow PCB Design

Re: [PEDA] SV: Polygon at non 45degree angles

WELL Bugger me with a broomstick !! I was wrong Nicholas, you can do arcs. Thanks Wayne Trow PCB Design Technician Gallagher Group LTD Hamilton NEW ZEALAND [p] +64 7 838 9800 ext 8737 [f] +64 7 838 9801 [e] [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [PEDA] Protel Viewer

Graphic command that stores the image in your document -Place the objects on the Windows clipboard as a graphic image (which you can re-size) -Place Text on the Windows Clipboard as text in your schematic - copied from the klipper help file Sorry for the mis-direction Wayne Trow PCB Design

Re: [PEDA] SV: Polygon at non 45degree angles

WELL String me up and hit me with a stick !!! Wayne Trow wrote: WELL Bugger me with a broomstick !! I believe this was tried in New York a few years ago, and it ended up costing the city over $10 million after the case wound through the courts. Jon (Embedded image moved to file: pic29358

Re: [PEDA] Protel Viewer

International Inc. #300 - 4401 Still Creek Drive, Burnaby, B.C., Canada, V5C 6G9. Tel (604) 292-9089 (direct line) Fax (604) 292-9010 Website: www.norsat.com -Original Message- From: Wayne Trow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 3:41 PM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re

[PEDA] Pcad 8.5 import

Hi All Is there a way to import pcad8.5 pcbs or pdif files into Protel99seSP6 ? I know this is a big ask but Im sure there are some diehard pcad8.5 users out there - come on you know who you are !!! :-) Thanks HEAPS Wayne Trow PCB Design Technician Gallagher Group LTD Hamilton NEW ZEALAND [p

Re: [PEDA] Paste masks

for solder paste and a 10thou stainless stencil for glue. Sometimes for low run boards we use brass stencils. Cheers Wayne Trow PCB Design Technician Gallagher Group LTD Hamilton NEW ZEALAND [p] +64 7 838 9800 ext 8737 [f] +64 7 838 9801 [e] [EMAIL PROTECTED

[PEDA] Layer specific keepouts

Hi All I drew a line 15thou thick through the middle of a row of smt resistors. This line has no net and is assigned keepout. I did this to prevent a polygon from going between the resistors. HOWEVER The polygon completely ignores the keepout track and draws directly on top of it. Why? The

[PEDA] Layer specific keepouts

.. Cheers Wayne - Forwarded by Wayne Trow/GGL on 23/11/01 11:28 - Wayne Trow

Re: [PEDA] Layer specific keepouts

Darren The same layer as the polygon and the smd - the top layer. Wayne Darren Moore

[PEDA] Designators

Hi All Is there a way to have component designators appear on more than one layer ? Excluding just writing text. It would be useful to still have the association between component and designator. Thanks Wayne * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message:

Re: [PEDA] How to use objects as keepouts?

Charlie When you place a keepout fill I dont think it gets plotted in the gerber files so you wont end up with a unconnected piece of copper under your SMD. I could be wrong - its happened before :-) Wayne

Re: [PEDA] double double messages messages

Hhii When using Lotus Notes and I reply to a forum message using reply to all with history then it puts the List address in both the to: line and the cc: line. This message will probably get to you twice - did it ? Wayne

Re: [PEDA] Routing in Single Layer Mode

that anyway? (i can't remember) Wayne Trow wrote: Hi All When routing a trace on a signal layer when in single-layer-mode, parts of the net that are on other layers show. Is this meant to happen? Can I stop it from happening? IM USING SINGLE LAYER MODE FOR A REASON AND THIS IS VERY

[PEDA] Line or Track

Hi All I have placed a line on the top layer, 1mil thick and made it a keepout line (in its property dialog box). Why, therefore, it is flagged as a width constraint error when it is a line and a keepout line at that ! Are lines and tracks the same on signal layers? THEY SHOULDN'T BE -

Re: [PEDA] Holes

THOMAS !!! WONDERFUL - YOU LEGEND ! THANKS Wayne Thomas

Re: [PEDA] Using 3D and a 3D bug...

A new addon server is being develop by desktop-eda. This will allow, apparently, the interface with mechanical 3d modelling and pcb 3d modelling. Full control of the 3d-ing etc. Dont quote me on this though. Wayne Trow

Re: [PEDA] None

Wayne Earlier in the list in the synchroniser is there a macro that adds the component FS1 ? It wont add a node to a net if there is no component either already on the pcb on earlier in the synchronizer. Wayne Trow PCB Design Technician Gallagher Group LTD (COMPETETOR OF TRU-TEST

[PEDA] xls files

Hi All Ive created a BOM from a sch and used client spreadsheet as the output. It put an xls file within the database as I expected. Is there a way to open xls files that are within a ddb with excel and not the protel spreadsheet server? Thanks Wayne Trow PCB Design Technician Gallagher

Re: [PEDA] Holes

Dwight Ill try it bit busy at the moment though. Thanks Wayne Trow Dwight

Re: [PEDA] xls files

Wayne Yep thats one solution but I would really like to know if I can open the xls file with excel when its still within the database just like you do with a word doc. Cheers Wayne Trow PCB Design Technician Gallagher Group LTD Hamilton +64 7 838 9800 ext 8737

[PEDA] Holes

Hi All We have mounting holes in our pcbs - amazingly enough :-) but when I left-click-hold to move a hole it disappears leaving only the crosshairs. WHY OH WHY OH WHY ? Thanks for you help Wayne Trow PCB Design Technician Gallagher Group LTD Hamilton New Zealand

Re: [PEDA] Holes

the copper pad diameter? The copper pad size is 0,0. The hole sizes are anything higher than this. Wayne -Original Message- From: Wayne Trow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, 14 November 2001 11:48 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [PEDA] Holes Hi All We have

Re: [PEDA] Holes

you have assigned to pad holes AND BACKGROUND? -Original Message- From: Wayne Trow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, 14 November 2001 11:48 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [PEDA] Holes Hi All We have mounting holes in our pcbs - amazingly enough :-) but when I

Re: [PEDA] Holes

memory this only happens when the copper pad diameter is less than (incl zero) the hole diameter, irrespective of whether it's PTH or not. Cheers Brendon. - Original Message - From: Wayne Trow [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 1:47 PM

[PEDA] Net Transfer

Hi All Ive got a design that was made a long time ago by someone else and the pcb has no net information associated with free primitives (traces). Updating from schematic doesn't seem to fix it. Thats with Assign net to connected copper checked. Any ideas? Wayne Trow Gallagher Group LTD

[PEDA] Net Transfer

Hi All On closer inspection it seems that some traces are connected and others aren't. ??? Wayne - Forwarded by Wayne Trow/GGL on 05/11/01 10:45

[PEDA] Clearance from edge of board

keep out traces as well - which is what I dont want. Thanks in Advance Wayne Trow Gallagher Group LTD Hamilton New Zealand * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com

[PEDA] Mechanical Layers

Hi All Has anyone ever noticed that when in the mechanical layers dialog box the TAB key makes the selection go up and SHIFT-TAB makes it go down. I would have expected it to be the other way around. Wayne * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message:

Re: [PEDA] Clearance from edge of board

Create a Room Definition (design rules/placement). -Original Message- From: Wayne Trow [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: [PEDA] Clearance from edge of board

components outside the room will cause a violation. Hope this helps, Tom. -Original Message- From: Wayne Trow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, 1 November 2001 12:19 PM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] Clearance from edge of board Thomas (and All) I have

Re: [PEDA] Political messages (Ex: THIS SAYS IT ALL)

Ditto Ian Wilson

[PEDA] Drill Output in CAMtastic

*** Todays forums are sponsored by Ian Martin Limited Engineering/Technical Placement Specialists www.ianmartin.com *** Hi All How do you change the output format of a drill file when

[PEDA] CAM Outputs

in words Thanks in advance Wayne Trow PCB Design Technician Gallagher Group LTD Hamilton New Zealand * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact

Re: [PEDA] CAM Outputs

Hi Brad yes I use the windows file system. I create a copy of the cam's to hardrive - which is part of the preferences of CAM output. Namely in a dir called c:\camout\ But when generating files Protel places folders in this location called Cam for x I cant have spaces in the folder name.

Re: [PEDA] CAM Outputs

Hi Sorry - Im wrong - I do use the MS Access Database configuration. Wayne -Brad Wrote Hi Wayne, welcome to PEDA. There are no stupid questions, especially when you are just starting with Protel. By your comment I would have to assume that you are

Re: [PEDA] Windows 2000

I get it too !!! I would love a solution Wayne Trow * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL