et. The VCC
net seems to be connecting as do all the other nets....huh?
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very stable.
Just my $0.02
Lloyd Good
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Calgary, AB, Canada T1Y 7J7
(403) 214-4777
-Original Message-
From: Bagotronix Tech Support [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2001 10:47 AM
To: Multiple recip
s ago.
Check the Protel site regarding the OBDC driver.
Cheers,
Lloyd Good
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-Original Message-
From: Bob Fearon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 2:46
The output netlist
will import into the database and load directly, or it used to.
Cheers,
Lloyd Good
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can reuse
them. The ease and accuracy of the translation is unbelievable. I recently
detected a 20mil interference in the metal work after fully assembling a
multi-pcb product in Solidworks.
Let me know if you're interested in it. It only costs about $500 US.
Regards,
Lloyd Good
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I have seen this as well. It seems that the BOM generator sorts parts only
by Part type and footprint.
This makes it very important to differentiate between a 10K-J (5%) and a
10K-F (1%). This is not a "bug", it's just the way it works.
Lloyd Good
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dments, I would love to see some
Designator conventions used by all of you. Please include as many as
possible in your replies. The more ammunition the better.
Note- I would prefer more North Amercian conventions as we are a N.A
company.
Thanks,
Lloyd Good
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y. They all look the
same to me. Seems redundant to have more than 1 image. IMHO.
Lloyd Good
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2728 Hopewell Place NE
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-Original Message-
From: Crist, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, Feb
om the
CSV with the utility that Terry Harris spoke of.
Thanks all,
Lloyd Good
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-Original Message-
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g dept approval of the footprint first after its
creation.
When we use outside contractors, the same rules apply, we supply our pcb
footprint library on CD.
Just what we are doing. Seems to be working.
Lloyd Good
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2728 Hopewell Place NE
Calgary, AB, Cana
graduates here. Does anyone know
if they have a good reputation in the US with the Industry.
I would appreciate any input off line on DeVry or any other Institute in the
area.
Thanks in advance,
Lloyd Good
GE Harris Energy Control Systems Canada Inc.
2728 Hopewell Place NE
Calgary, AB, Canada T1
Oops,
My email is
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From: Good, Lloyd (PS, GE Harris-Canada)
Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2001 9:12 AM
To: Multiple recipients of
Hello all,
One thing I have never figured out is how to arrange the order of the sheets
in a project so that they are in the order that I want, and that they print
in that order. Has anyone ever bothered to figure it out and could you
please enlighten me?!
Regards,
Lloyd Good
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big design). So realistically, how
usable does that make it
Can I please get some resolution from Protel on this issue.
Regards,
Lloyd Good
GE Harris Energy Control Systems Canada Inc.
2728 Hopewell Place NE
Calgary, AB, Canada T1Y 7J7
I may be wrong but as I understand it, gerber layers don't have holes in the
pads. So it would seem reasonable to assume that your total 2030 is 0mm.
Unless your talking about the NC drill files in which case I'm talking
through my hat and you're in trouble.
Regards,
Lloyd Good
G
.
Thanks in advance.
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adequate research.
Any comments?
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-Original Message-
From: Brad Velander [mai
ng is that the power ports which should be
global aren't being connected.
Any suggestions....?!
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d the wrong
connections. Viola.fixed. Apparently Protels ERC checker did not pick up
the multiple connections for what ever reason. I even made sure the multiple
net name check was on. It may have to do with the sheet not having many net
labels on the connectionsnot sure.
Thanks again,
Lloyd
no
option in the bios to disable the USB port and Windoze NT does not even
support USB. I have been experiencing the delays which are becoming
increasingly annoying. I have a standard MS ergo mouse with scroll wheel.
Any ideas..
desperately,
Lloyd Good
Engineering Systems Co-ordinator
GE
Ivan,
You kill me!
You should be in Marketinghaha!
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From
ode convention.
Your input would be greatly appreciated.
PS My test engineer is from Nortel, so this may be my problem....haha.
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2728 Hopewell Place NE
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T1Y 7J7
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uld leak out of his dept and into the released section of files,
which would be disastrous.
Regards,
Lloyd Good
Engineering Systems Co-ordinator
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2728 Hopewell Place NE
Calgary, Alberta, Canada
T1Y 7J7
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Hello all,
Has anyone had any success in converting old (versions 2 & 3) PADs files
into Protel?
We have a company that we purchased whose old files are in these formats and
need some conversion utility to do many file conversions.
Please advise.
Lloyd Good
Engineering Systems Co-ordinato
Yes very familiar with Genrad.
Unless you have the latest version which includes the new Protel file
convertor, you need to export your Protel PCB file out in Version 2.8 ASCII
format. Then Genrad has a program convertor called Alchemist which converts
to GenCad.cad files.
Hope that helps
Lloyd
Rob,
If you send me the file I have a PCAD file convertor, you may lose some hole
information but most everything comes across okay. What ever doesn't can be
fixed in Protel.
Regards,
Lloyd Good
Engineering Systems Co-ordinator
GE Substation Automation Systems
2728 Hopewell Place NE
Ca
? Is this old
news and I have just had my head in the clouds?
Regards,
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Colin et al,
Further to your point, if Altium / Protel or whatever you want to call them
now were smart, they would buy out the 3D export features from Desktop-eda
and incorporate them into the next version.
The 3D viewer that Protel offered with the SE version is what prompted me to
contact Deskt
Ralf,
I think what Mr Lomax was doing was trying to find a way for our unilingual
cousins to the South to remember what antwort means, not it's literal
translation.
Auf wiedersehen,
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ings fixed, but considering what else is out there,
I am making the best of the current situation.
Regards,
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I'm with you, Tony. You couldn't pay me to go backwards into the old
separated file method. Our designs use a numbering scheme which in the past
meant having to look up on paper records which version of schematic matched
what version of pcb. The ddb file system makes it fast and idiot proof.
tfully) What is
your overall general opinion of the developments from AutoTrax 6.0 to DE
99SE?
Regards,
Lloyd Good
-Original Message-
From: Fred A Rupinski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 9:10 AM
To: Protel EDA Forum
Subject: Re: [PEDA] Protel usage
Most of us mak
Bill,
Sounds like the exact type of situation we are in. We have old schematics in
Autocad, old pcbs in PCAD and even a few designs in old Orcad. Until
recently, we used the same file managment system you describe and frankly I
did everything I could to get rid of it. What nonsense it was to keep
Why would you want to take a step backwards!
-Original Message-
From: Watnoski, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2001 7:12 AM
To: 'Protel EDA Forum'
Subject: Re: [PEDA] Pin & gate swapping
My best recommendation would be to toss Protel out and use P-C
programming (Xilinx Foundation or fascimile) dictate what pins get connected
to what signal.
Regards,
Lloyd Good
-Original Message-
From: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2001 12:51 PM
To: Protel EDA Forum
Subject: Re: [PEDA] Pin & gate swap
Does anyone know how to get Camtastic to check for these hanging traces?
Cheers,
Lloyd
-Original Message-
From: Ian Capps [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 3:53 PM
To: Protel EDA Forum
Subject: Re: [PEDA] Unconnected Traces
Nick
You will need to look into Camt
If possible I would love a copy too, Please.
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-Original Message-
From: Georg Beckmann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2001 12:04 AM
To: 'Protel EDA Forum'
Subject: [PEDA] AW: CAMTASTIC GERBER TO PROTEL TRANSLATOR?
I sent it to Abdulrahman Lomax
Further to this thread, does anyone know how to set the default color of the
ratsnest lines. I know how to edit them but would prefer that they came up
with the color of my choice everytime they were created.
Regards,
Lloyd
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTEC
While I have set this parameter, it seems that new netlist loading will
still see the new connections use a default grey color which is not the
color I have set. Has anyone else seen this? Possibly a bug?
-Original Message-
From: Thomas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December
On Wed, 12 Dec 2001 18:02:23 -0600, Jon Elson wrote:
>Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote:
>
>
>Any comments on the level of support others have gotten?
>
I've not called for any tech support since Protel moved from California to
Utah. The last time I spoke to someone at Protel, Sam Cox and Vinh Ho w
Tim,
Under the CAM outputs, you have choices to generate gerbers, NC Drill, Pik
and Place etc. This the the section that you wish to use. Just choose to
generate Pick and Place which gives you two files a *.txt and a *.csv file
of the X/Y co-ordinates for the components. Also choose to generate a
Tim,
Unfortunately the testpoint feature is one that does not fall under global
edit control. Much to my dismay! You might try to define what a test point
is, provided they all share the same characteristics. This can be done in
the Design-Rules-Manufacturing tab menu. Then you might have some suc
Steve,
You can export the print preview parts out to a windows metafile, but for
small snips of pcb this is a real lengthy process. You're better to use a
utility (shareware) called "Snag-it" . This is a great little utility and
very easy to use, you can select portions of the screen or the whole
I'm with you Dennis, I never copy the whole board into the panel. I just use
another Mechanical layer (usually 3) to create a panelization drawing and
let the fab house deal with it. We always print out the panel drawing and
include it in the ECN package. Many of our test fixtures are created for
Dave,
With regard to the first item. Which service pack are you running. I seem to
remember this same issue with anything before service pack 4 or 5. I
remember the PAD net text being black and hard to read. Make sure you are
running at least service pack 5. There are some issues with SP6 that I
Steve,
I don't know if what you want can be done. The pcb identifies each footprint
as a unique component. You might be able to trick the netlist if you call
both footprints U1 for instance, but each time you load the netlist it will
try to disconnect all the pins of one "U1" and reconnect the oth
Sounds like way to much confusion to me. This might be great for a one
person operation, but trying to get a whole group of engineers to follow
that strict regiment would be almost impossible.
Do your production boards change that drastically from the proto? Our's
certainly don't.
-Original M
Sean,
I hope you charge this guy by the hour!!
-Original Message-
From: Sean James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 1:27 PM
To: Protel EDA Forum
Subject: Re: [PEDA] Altium preps topological autorouter
To quote Mike Reagan -
"What could be simpler and faster t
Ian,
I did some work for a local company that was a spin-off of Nortel and ran
into the same problem. The schematics were in Cadence but the PCB files were
unknown. I found out later that they were created using a proprietary layout
program of Nortels. It seems that this program is created by Cade
Peter
I refused to use 98. I continued to use Protel for windows 2.8 until 99SE
came out. It wasn't until I discovered the real benefits of the database
idea did I completely abandon 2.8. I think you'll find yourself in the
minority if you think 98 was more stable. I would prefer to use the DOS
Au
ch snow you got out in the Maritimes
this year?
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need a computer, I
have a slide rule that works just fine.
Sounds like some projects are not as complex as others.
IMHO
Lloyd Good
-Original Message-
From: robi artwork [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 5:29 AM
To: Protel EDA Forum
Subject: Re: [PEDA] Re[3]: Vie
Brad,
I understand the sentiment of the Protel viewer by others in the forum. I
suppose the point that I am trying to make it that Protel is an EDA tool not
a 3D CAD package. I don't expect it to be. I use it for what it is intended,
not for what is not intended. Ergo, I use the 3D export utility
"Many users will not want to have to convert all their libraries to include
3-D information"
This is my point exactly. Some PCB designers have no interest in the 3D
world, so let's not create a proverbial white elephant inside of Protel. The
functionality you request would add cost, or possibly
Ted,
Even as I wrote it I was thinking about that particular boat-car, and I knew
someone would bring it up. haha As I remember that idea also sunk.
Cheers,
-Original Message-
From: Ted Tontis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 12:04 PM
To: 'Protel EDA Forum'
Su
Mr Lomax,
I don't believe that I missed your point at all, I just don't agree. There
is no such thing as a "simple" 3D model. If all you want is simple height,
you might want to follow Robi's advice and calculate the separations with a
pencil and paper. If you need interference checking as you sta
Ahhh Mr Jenkins,
I was wondering when you would jump into the fray. I've missed your soft
demeanor and objectiveness. It has been so long since I've been indirectly
compared to an "aging dweeb" and "twits". I should have explained that I do
not differentiate between PCB designer and Engineer as th
ion would be to switch to Windoze 2K Pro.
This OS seems to be very stable and will eliminate the " pregant pause"
problem.
Other than that, more information may be required.
Cheers,
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GE Energy Services
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Regards,
Lloyd Good
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ared to be
centered to start with, yet I had the problem?
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n for complex double
sided. It seems to me that you can't beat the proto-1 service at AP
Circuits. Just my opinion!
www.apcircuits.com
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I got it too! #%#$@%@!!!
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should be pretty cheap.
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nd in copying and
rotating the component?
I may just be grasping at air here, but I'd be curious to know if the
metric/imperial conversion played any part.
Cheers,
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the
alternative is to have it converted directly into Unidoc, which we can't do
either.
Any thoughts?
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recommend to anyone that wants to panelize.
Just my opinion,
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position 32
Anyone seen this before and have any answers how to fix it.
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at created this is V3.5, I
suspect that the translator expects PowerPCB 2000 format.
Has anyone had good results translating files from PADS 2000?
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Hello all,
I have a client that is looking for a Protel 99SE license. Does anyone have
one for sale. Please email me off-line at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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