Re: Creating JSON from RDF

2009-12-13 Thread Ivan Herman
Dan is right on many front... (it usually true:-) - I personally do not see a problem this being done on ESW, this does not mean any type of formal 'Association' with W3C (giving you a writing right is a matter of setting up a user for you and sending, eg, me or dan a mail to add you to the acce

Re: APIs and Lists

2009-12-13 Thread Daniel O'Connor
On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 10:54 AM, Daniel O'Connor wrote: > > >>> The first question is: How do we define which resources are members of a >>> list? >>> >> > Perhaps a dead simple way to do it is > http://sw.deri.org/2007/07/sitemapextension/ - you lose some of the > semantic expressiveness, but yo

Re: APIs and Lists

2009-12-13 Thread Daniel O'Connor
> >> The first question is: How do we define which resources are members of a >> list? >> > Perhaps a dead simple way to do it is http://sw.deri.org/2007/07/sitemapextension/ - you lose some of the semantic expressiveness, but you list resources.

Re: Creating JSON from RDF

2009-12-13 Thread Toby Inkster
On Sat, 2009-12-12 at 21:42 +, Jeni Tennison wrote: > To put this in context, what I think we should aim for is a pure > publishing format that is optimised for approachability for normal > developers, *not* an interchange format. RDF/JSON [1] and the SPARQL > results JSON format [2] aren

Re: APIs and Lists

2009-12-13 Thread Herbert Van de Sompel
Hi Jeni I wonder whether ORE Aggregations could be (part of) a solution: http://www.openarchives.org/ore/1.0/toc Greetings Herbert Van de Sompel Sent from my iPhone On Dec 13, 2009, at 15:20, Jeni Tennison wrote: Hi, Dave (Reynolds) raised the point that lists are an integral part of m

Re: Creating JSON from RDF

2009-12-13 Thread Dan Brickley
On Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 8:03 PM, Dave Reynolds wrote: > Hi Jeni, > > [Rest of post snipped for now, I'll respond properly later. Seems like we > are on sufficiently similar wavelengths that it is "just" a matter of > working the details.] > >> I don't know where the best place is to work on this:

Re: Creating JSON from RDF

2009-12-13 Thread Mark Birbeck
Hi Jeni, On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 9:42 PM, Jeni Tennison wrote: > Hi, > > As part of the linked data work the UK government is doing, we're looking at > how to use the linked data that we have as the basis of APIs that are > readily usable by developers who really don't want to learn about RDF or

APIs and Lists

2009-12-13 Thread Jeni Tennison
Hi, Dave (Reynolds) raised the point that lists are an integral part of most APIs. This is another thing that we know we need to address in the UK linked government data project, but are unsure as yet how best to do so. This is a bit of a brain dump of my current thinking, which is mostly

Re: Creating JSON from RDF

2009-12-13 Thread Dave Reynolds
Hi Jeni, [Rest of post snipped for now, I'll respond properly later. Seems like we are on sufficiently similar wavelengths that it is "just" a matter of working the details.] I don't know where the best place is to work on this: I guess at some point it would be good to set up a Wiki page or

Re: Creating JSON from RDF

2009-12-13 Thread Jeni Tennison
Hi Dave :) On 13 Dec 2009, at 13:34, Dave Reynolds wrote: Jeni Tennison wrote: As part of the linked data work the UK government is doing, we're looking at how to use the linked data that we have as the basis of APIs that are readily usable by developers who really don't want to learn abou

Re: Creating JSON from RDF

2009-12-13 Thread Jeni Tennison
On 12 Dec 2009, at 22:33, Damian Steer wrote: In terms of code accessing the results there isn't much difference. The former requires an initial path to the array ['results'] ['bindings'], then the use of ['value'] for each access. Is true. As I said, I'm a lot less concerned about the JSON

Re: Creating JSON from RDF

2009-12-13 Thread Jeni Tennison
On 12 Dec 2009, at 22:27, Danny Ayers wrote: I can't offer any real practical suggestions right away (a lot to digest here!) but one question I think right away may some significance: you want this to be friendly to normal developers - what kind of things are they actually used to? Do you have an

Re: DBTropes.org, a TVTropes.org linked data wrapper

2009-12-13 Thread Daniel O'Connor
> >> Daniel, > > What's the aversion to simply thinking in SPARQL re. Freebase? > I can think in both, MQL just is more readily accessable to me and with the freebase query editor, more easily learned. > > Freebase folks: Why not provide a SPARQL option (basically a SPARQL to MQL > translator i

Re: Creating JSON from RDF

2009-12-13 Thread Dave Reynolds
Hi Jeni, Jeni Tennison wrote: As part of the linked data work the UK government is doing, we're looking at how to use the linked data that we have as the basis of APIs that are readily usable by developers who really don't want to learn about RDF or SPARQL. Wow! Talk about timing. We are lo

Re: Creating JSON from RDF

2009-12-13 Thread Jeni Tennison
Frederick, Thanks, that looks interesting, and the idea of supporting similar mappings to XML and to CSV is very attractive. But I couldn't actually work out how I would use it in the kind of situation we find ourselves in. We have, for example, RDF like this: http://education.data.gov.

Re: Creating JSON from RDF

2009-12-13 Thread Nathan
Damian Steer wrote: > On 12 Dec 2009, at 21:42, Jeni Tennison wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> As part of the linked data work the UK government is doing, we're looking at >> how to use the linked data that we have as the basis of APIs that are >> readily usable by developers who really don't want to learn