Re: WebIDs and Content-Location

2012-04-15 Thread Toby Inkster
On Sun, 15 Apr 2012 21:48:09 +0100 Norman Gray wrote: > tl;dr: content-location trumps request-uri. As per RFC 2616, true. But in practice, most browsers have never implemented this. Some HTTP libraries do though. (libwww-perl does.) There are Internet drafts planned to obsolete RFC 2616, and t

Re: Facebook Linked Data

2011-09-28 Thread Toby Inkster
On Tue, 27 Sep 2011 15:04:13 -0400 Tim rdf wrote: > Thanks for pointing out that it might be a foaf:Account and not > foaf:Person. > > I need to dig into their semantics before I run around misusing them! You could even do: a fo

Re: Facebook Linked Data

2011-09-27 Thread Toby Inkster
On Fri, 23 Sep 2011 10:11:29 -0400 Tim rdf wrote: > >a foaf:Person; >owl:sameAs > Personally, I'd say: a foaf:Person ; foaf:account

Re: ANN: http://www.productontology.org - more than 300,000 specific OWL DL classes for types of objects

2011-03-01 Thread Toby Inkster
On Tue, 1 Mar 2011 19:13:13 +0100 Martin Hepp wrote: > The Product Ontology is designed to be compatible with the > GoodRelations Ontology for e-commerce, but it can be used for any > other Semantic Web or Linked Data purpose that requires class > definitions for objects. [] a gr:ActualProductOr

Re: URI Comparisons: RFC 2616 vs. RDF

2011-01-22 Thread Toby Inkster
On Tue, 18 Jan 2011 21:43:08 -0600 Peter DeVries wrote: > I have URI's where case is important only at the terminal identifier. > (HTML URI's in this example) > http://lod.taxonconcept.org/ses/v6n7p.html > should be different than > http://lod.taxonconcept.org/ses/v6N7p.html > Am I correct in thi

Re: Reverse Links and HTTP Referer

2011-01-12 Thread Toby Inkster
On Wed, 12 Jan 2011 02:47:34 + Nathan wrote: > 1: does anybody send HTTP Referer headers from their linked data > clients and crawlers? I don't have a linked data client or crawler. However, I have written a GRDDL implementation which needs to follow various links to find transformation fil

Re: Is it best practices to use a rdfs:seeAlso link to a potentially multimegabyte PDF?, existing predicate for linking to PDF?

2011-01-10 Thread Toby Inkster
On Mon, 2011-01-10 at 08:55 +, Phil Archer wrote: > I'd be happy enough to see greater granularity for rdfs:seeAlso. I > have a use case where I want to say something like "the has been > minted recently by a source that is not authoritative but that, if > widely adopted, could become so. Eith

Re: Is it best practices to use a rdfs:seeAlso link to a potentially multimegabyte PDF?, existing predicate for linking to PDF?

2011-01-10 Thread Toby Inkster
On Sun, 2011-01-09 at 18:21 +0300, Vasiliy Faronov wrote: > Maybe it's time to define several specializations of rdfs:seeAlso with > stronger semantics? Don't we already have enough of those? powder-s:describedby . # provides some more information about , often in a # machine-readable format

Re: Possible Idea For a Sem Web Based Game?

2010-12-10 Thread Toby Inkster
On Fri, 2010-12-10 at 02:58 +0100, Melvin Carvalho wrote: > Real world locations might be the way forward. > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMQ5DFkU794 That reminds me - there was an article in the New Scientist a few weeks ago about "newsgames". These are essentially journalism in an alternative

Re: Any reason for ontology reuse?

2010-12-04 Thread Toby Inkster
On Fri, 3 Dec 2010 18:15:08 -0200 Percy Enrique Rivera Salas wrote: > I would like to know, which are the specific reason(s), > for reuse terms from well-known vocabularies in the process of Publish > Linked Data on the Web? Consider this question: I would like to know, which are the specific re

Re: Possible Idea For a Sem Web Based Game?

2010-12-01 Thread Toby Inkster
On Wed, 1 Dec 2010 23:06:42 +0100 Melvin Carvalho wrote: > I think the next thing I need to model is 'items'. > > At present need to work out a way to say a location has an item. Perhaps model it the other direction? game:initial_position . -- Toby A Inkster

Re: Is 303 really necessary?

2010-11-28 Thread Toby Inkster
On Sun, 28 Nov 2010 14:52:21 +0100 Giovanni Tummarello wrote: > is clearly a web page but its also an actor, it is pointed by their > graph in other pages as such and the same page contains the opengraph > triple "type" "actor" That's consistent with the definition of the og:type property. og:t

Re: Failed to port datastore to RDF, will go Mongo

2010-11-24 Thread Toby Inkster
On Wed, 24 Nov 2010 18:12:50 + Ben O'Steen wrote: > That's not the point that is being made. A competent developer, using > all the available links and documentation, spending days researching > and learning and trying to implement, is unable to make an app using a > triplestore that is on a

Re: Possible Idea For a Sem Web Based Game?

2010-11-21 Thread Toby Inkster
On Sun, 21 Nov 2010 21:24:22 +0100 Melvin Carvalho wrote: > Im also looking for a CYOA game that has the data available. http://outer-court.com/goodies/madv.htm http://jerz.setonhill.edu/if/crowther/ Aside: this is quite a cool article - http://samizdat.cc/cyoa/ -- Toby A Inkster

Re: Possible Idea For a Sem Web Based Game?

2010-11-21 Thread Toby Inkster
On Sat, 20 Nov 2010 23:43:18 + Toby Inkster wrote: > One possible addition, that would go way beyond what the CYOA books > could offer would be for the client to have a stateful store. So when > you entered a room, there could be a list of room contents which you > could colle

Re: Possible Idea For a Sem Web Based Game?

2010-11-21 Thread Toby Inkster
On Sun, 21 Nov 2010 20:43:34 +0800 Joshua Shinavier wrote: > 1) a "node" should not be *only* a location, but should also include a > game-specific context. E.g. instead of a node for "London", have a > node for "running from zombies in London", with a geo:location link to > the DBpedia resource

Re: Possible Idea For a Sem Web Based Game?

2010-11-21 Thread Toby Inkster
On Sun, 21 Nov 2010 15:05:12 +0100 Melvin Carvalho wrote: > > The way I've written this client, the nodes themselves can extend > > the pre-defined link directions: > > > >        <#node1> <#hide-under-rug> <#node2> . > > > >        <#hide-under-rug> > >                rdfs:label "hide under the

Re: Possible Idea For a Sem Web Based Game?

2010-11-20 Thread Toby Inkster
On Sat, 20 Nov 2010 19:13:31 + Toby Inkster wrote: > I'd be happy to mock-up an interface - perhaps tonight! Here are a few test nodes: http://buzzword.org.uk/2010/game/test-nodes/london http://buzzword.org.uk/2010/game/test-nodes/birmingham http://buzzword.org.uk/2010/game/te

Re: Possible Idea For a Sem Web Based Game?

2010-11-20 Thread Toby Inkster
On Sat, 20 Nov 2010 18:28:24 +0100 Melvin Carvalho wrote: > 1. Would each 'location' be a document or a resource? Web of > Documents vs Web of Resources? > > 2. Could we use foaf:image and dcterms:desc for the game pages? > > 3. How would you model the link on each page? Sounds like a pret

Re: survey: who uses the triple foaf:name rdfs:subPropertyOf rdfs:label?

2010-11-12 Thread Toby Inkster
On Fri, 12 Nov 2010 12:08:36 +0100 Dan Brickley wrote: > This is one of several things that OWL DL oriented tools (eg. > http://www.mygrid.org.uk/OWL/Validator) don't seem to like, since it > mixes application schemas with the W3C builtins. DL is a tiresome bore. Add a few more non-DL constructs

Re: Status codes / IR vs. NIR -- 303 vs. 200

2010-11-10 Thread Toby Inkster
On Wed, 10 Nov 2010 23:07:19 + Toby Inkster wrote: > http://id.loc.gov/authorities/sh85121735#concept > http://id.loc.gov/authorities/sh85121591#concept > http://id.loc.gov/authorities/sh85119315#concept > http://id.loc.gov/authorities/sh86001831#concept > http://id.loc.

Re: Status codes / IR vs. NIR -- 303 vs. 200

2010-11-10 Thread Toby Inkster
On Wed, 10 Nov 2010 15:13:42 -0800 Bradley Allen wrote: > Thanks; that's a useful example. So the convention in that case is to > append '#concept' to the end of the IR? #concept is what LOC is using for their SKOS Concepts. #me or similar might be more conventional for FOAF Persons. The BBC use

Re: Status codes / IR vs. NIR -- 303 vs. 200

2010-11-10 Thread Toby Inkster
On Wed, 10 Nov 2010 12:30:35 -0800 Bradley Allen wrote: > Nathan- I think you are overly discounting scalability problems with > fragment URIs. > > Most of the use cases I am dealing with in moving linked data into > production at Elsevier entail SKOS concept schemes with concepts > numbering in

Re: What would break, a question for implementors? (was Re: Is 303 really necessary?)

2010-11-10 Thread Toby Inkster
On Tue, 9 Nov 2010 17:04:44 -0500 (EST) joel sachs wrote: > I think we can, though we might not be properly understood, e.g. > "Kingsley was great in Gandhi and Sexy Beast." > > Wasn't this part of the summer's argument regarding literals as > rdf:subjects , i.e. But: "Kingsley" film:i

Re: isDefinedBy and isDescribedBy, Tale of two missing predicates

2010-11-08 Thread Toby Inkster
On Fri, 05 Nov 2010 09:05:09 + Phil Archer wrote: > I wrote a short blog entry-like piece last night [1]. My basic point > being that I agree wholly with Ian's analysis but disagree with his > conclusions and I argue the case for a new HTTP status code. I also had that thought. Instead of:

Re: Is 303 really necessary?

2010-11-08 Thread Toby Inkster
On Fri, 5 Nov 2010 10:24:43 + Ian Davis wrote: > On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 10:05 AM, Nathan wrote: > >> Not at all, I'm saying that if big-corp makes a /web crawler/ that >> describes what documents are about and publishes RDF triples >> >>   :primaryTopic dbpedia:Toucan ; a :Document . > >

Re: isDefinedBy and isDescribedBy, Tale of two missing predicates

2010-11-08 Thread Toby Inkster
On Fri, 5 Nov 2010 15:53:34 + Ian Davis wrote: > Suppose I assign the ID 'mars' to represent the planet mars in my RDFa > document. I can then refer to it using http://example.com/foo#mars. > What does it mean when my javascript calls > document.getElementById('mars')? Should I expect now to

Re: Is 303 really necessary?

2010-11-08 Thread Toby Inkster
On Thu, 4 Nov 2010 13:22:09 + Ian Davis wrote: > http://iand.posterous.com/is-303-really-necessary Ian brings up numerous difficulties with 303 responses. The two biggest issues in my opinion are: 1. 303s can be tricky to configure unless you know your way around the ser

Re: Is 303 really necessary?

2010-11-08 Thread Toby Inkster
On Thu, 04 Nov 2010 18:10:02 -0400 David Booth wrote: > ISSUE 1: Whether there is need to use different URIs for the toucan > versus the toucan's web page. Some time ago I showed that there is no > *architectural* need to distinguish between the two: > http://dbooth.org/2007/splitting/ > (Sorry

Re: [foaf-dev] EON - event of note

2010-11-07 Thread Toby Inkster
On Sun, 7 Nov 2010 14:50:58 -0700 Robert Sanderson wrote: > Is there some reason not to use LODE? > > http://linkedevents.org/ontology/ A few, though they could possibly be addressed by a revision of LODE: 1. lode:Event appears to be restricted to events which have already happened. One

Re: [foaf-dev] EON - event of note

2010-11-07 Thread Toby Inkster
On Sun, 7 Nov 2010 13:26:15 +0100 "Michael Schneider" wrote: > For your information, the term "EON" is also used as the acronym of > the "International Workshop on Evaluation of Ontology-based Tools", > an (almost-) yearly event that exists since 2002. See [1] for the > proceedings of the first E

Fw: [foaf-dev] EON - event of note

2010-11-06 Thread Toby Inkster
Begin forwarded message... Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2010 00:32:50 + From: Toby Inkster To: foaf-dev Subject: [foaf-dev] EON - event of note Let's do a bit of collaborative work to flesh out a FOAF-like lightweight vocabulary for describing events, suitable for embedding in RDFa to des

Re: Hash vs Slash in relation to the 303 vs 200 debate (was: Is 303 really necessary - demo)

2010-11-06 Thread Toby Inkster
On Sat, 6 Nov 2010 12:33:34 + Ian Davis wrote: > On a practical level using frags can be inefficient when your linked > data output is backed by a triple store. If you use a slash URI then > generating the data for html/xml/turtle output is just a simple > "describe ". For hash URIs you need

Re: Reification alternative

2010-10-13 Thread Toby Inkster
On Wed, 13 Oct 2010 15:02:01 +0200 Mirko wrote: > I try to understand alternatives to reification for Linked Data > publishing, since reification is discouraged. For completeness, as it's not been mentioned, one method would be to publish two files. This is semantically similar to the use of nam

Re: Correct Usage of rdfs:idDefinedBy in Vocabulary Specifications with a Hash-based URI Pattern

2010-10-13 Thread Toby Inkster
On Thu, 30 Sep 2010 09:06:46 +0200 Martin Hepp wrote: > 1. http://purl.org/vso/ns# for the ontology as an abstract artefact > 2. http://purl.org/vso/ns for the syntactical representation of the > ontology (its serialization) > > Shall the rdfs:isDefinedBy statements refer to #1 or #2 ? I tend

Re: WordNet RDF

2010-09-21 Thread Toby Inkster
On Mon, 20 Sep 2010 13:45:07 +0200 Antoine Isaac wrote: > Very interesting! I'm curious though: what's the application scenario > that made you create this version? It makes it easy to insult people in RDF. <#you> a wordnet:Fool . #!!! More seriously, it's mostly just designed as a dro

Re: WordNet RDF

2010-09-10 Thread Toby Inkster
On Thu, 9 Sep 2010 14:30:52 +0100 Ian Davis wrote: > This is based on the RDF conversion at > http://semanticweb.cs.vu.nl/lod/wn30/ > > How similar is your work to this version? They're similar in that they're both based on Wordnet 3. There are some key differences though: 1. The vu.nl version

WordNet RDF

2010-09-08 Thread Toby Inkster
Dear all, I've created a think RDF wrapper around the WordNet 3.0 database (nouns only). For example: http://ontologi.es/WordNet/data/Fool This is nothing especially new - Dan Brickley did something similar with WordNet 1.6, many moons ago, and the W3C has also published an RDF version of Word

Re: LOB - linked open bard

2010-09-04 Thread Toby Inkster
On Sat, 4 Sep 2010 14:44:38 -0400 Ed Summers wrote: > Do you have idea where the file URIs are coming from? > > rapper -o turtle http://ontologi.es/lob/ Thanks - fixed. index.rdf and vocab.rdf had been generated by rapper from index.ttl and vocab.ttl, but without setting the base URI correct

LOB - linked open bard

2010-09-03 Thread Toby Inkster
Every play by Shakespeare in RDF: http://ontologi.es/lob/ For example: http://ontologi.es/lob/Hamlet.ttl "Two Noble Kinsmen" is not included, as I couldn't find a good XML version to convert to RDF, and Shakespeare only co-wrote it anyway. -- Toby A Inkster

Re: The Counter Ontology

2010-07-21 Thread Toby Inkster
On Wed, 21 Jul 2010 14:07:25 +0200 Bob Ferris wrote: > Finally, what do you think should we use now: rdf:value and some > restrictions on it for co:Counter or co:count as it is already > defined + a cardinality restriction of 1 on co:Counter for co:count? I'm indifferent as to which you should

Re: The Counter Ontology

2010-07-21 Thread Toby Inkster
On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 14:56:05 +0200 Bob Ferris wrote: > How can I make sure that the value of my counter concept is of the > type xsd:Integer? co:Counter rdfs:subClassOf [ a owl:Restriction ; owl:onProperty rdf:value ; owl:allValuesFrom xsd

Re: Predicate for external links on dbpedialite.org?

2010-07-17 Thread Toby Inkster
On Thu, 15 Jul 2010 17:09:36 +0100 Nicholas Humfrey wrote: > I have added external links to dbpedialite, for example see Berlin: > http://dbpedialite.org/things/3354 > > Is there a better predicate to use than rdfs:seeAlso? You could use the very matter-of-fact sioc:links_to. (The subject of a

Re: spam

2010-07-17 Thread Toby Inkster
On Sat, 17 Jul 2010 12:02:19 +0100 Richard Light wrote: > If [a museum] were to follow the dbpedia model, and publish a set of > [unrelated] triples with the object identifier as subject, embedded > in their web page for the object, there is nothing to stop someone > else putting out a page cont

Re: CPAN as linked data

2010-07-09 Thread Toby Inkster
On Wed, 2010-04-07 at 15:20 +0100, Toby Inkster wrote: > This lunch time I threw together a quick Linked Data wrapper around > CPAN::SQLite. And today I've added a few updates. The most immediately apparent is that all data is available as RDFa. > Example author: > > http

Re: FYI: Blog on HTTP Link header and host-wide well-known URI-s, and Linked Data

2010-07-08 Thread Toby Inkster
On Wed, 7 Jul 2010 07:03:21 +0200 Ivan Herman wrote: > http://www.w3.org/QA/2010/07/new_opportunities_for_linked_d.html Not sure why my comment yesterday has still not shown up, but for the benefit of these lists... I've been supporting some of these technologies in my Perl modules

Re: RDF Extensibility

2010-07-08 Thread Toby Inkster
On Thu, 8 Jul 2010 12:16:06 -0500 Pat Hayes wrote: > I would veto this option. To do this would be a lot more work than > not doing it; and it would greatly complicate the semantic > specification, which would have to keep track of this > 'meaninglessness'. Why would tools need to keep track of

Re: RDF Extensibility

2010-07-07 Thread Toby Inkster
On Tue, 6 Jul 2010 16:11:19 -0500 Pat Hayes wrote: > The world doesn't have facts like that in it. Classes and properties > are intellectual constructs, not the stuff of reality. Hell, if a > particle can be a wave, then surely a class can be a property. > Anyway, RDF doesn't make logical a p

Re: Subjects as Literals

2010-07-06 Thread Toby Inkster
On Tue, 6 Jul 2010 16:30:06 +0200 "Michael Schneider" wrote: > What do you mean by "false statement"? False in the same sense that this is false: foaf:name "Barry Chuckle" . Whether it is provably false by an automated agent is debata

Re: Subjects as Literals

2010-07-06 Thread Toby Inkster
On Tue, 6 Jul 2010 14:03:19 +0200 "Michael Schneider" wrote: > So, if > > :s "lit" :o . > > must not have a semantic meaning, what about > > "lit" rdf:type rdf:Property . > > ? As, according to what you say above, you are willing to allow for > literals in subject position, this trip

Re: Subjects as Literals

2010-07-06 Thread Toby Inkster
On Mon, 5 Jul 2010 17:43:17 -0500 Pat Hayes wrote: > Well, nobody is suggesting allowing literals as predicates (although > in fact the RDF semantics would easily extend to this usage, if > required, and the analogous structures are allowed, and do have > genuine use cases, in ISO Common Lo

Re: Show me the money - (was Subjects as Literals)

2010-07-02 Thread Toby Inkster
On Fri, 2010-07-02 at 08:39 +0100, Ian Davis wrote: > I would prefer to see this kind of effort put into n3 as a general > logic expression system and superset of RDF that perhaps we can move > towards once we have achieved mainstream with the core data expression > in RDF. I'd like to see 5 or 6 a

Re: Show me the money - (was Subjects as Literals)

2010-07-01 Thread Toby Inkster
On Thu, 01 Jul 2010 13:05:54 -0400 Kingsley Idehen wrote: > W3C only officially acknowledges RDF/XML as Markup Language for RDF > Data Model. I hear this time and time again, but it is not true anymore. XHTML+RDFa 1.0 became a W3C Recommendation in October 2008. It has the same publication stat

Re: Subjects as Literals, [was Re: The Ordered List Ontology]

2010-06-30 Thread Toby Inkster
On Wed, 30 Jun 2010 13:18:25 -0700 Jeremy Carroll wrote: > Here are the reasons I voted this way: > > - it will mess up RDF/XML No it won't - it will just mean that RDF/XML is only capable of representing a subset of RDF graphs. And guess what? That's already the case. -- Toby A Inkster

Re: Subjects as Literals

2010-06-30 Thread Toby Inkster
On Wed, 30 Jun 2010 14:54:47 -0600 Robert Sanderson wrote: > "London" dcterms:isPartOf "England" > > That is true only for the particular London which is the capital of > England, not London, Texas, London, Ontario or London in Kiribati. Consider: "London" dcterms:isPartOf dbpedia:Engl

Re: The Ordered List Ontology

2010-06-30 Thread Toby Inkster
On Wed, 30 Jun 2010 10:54:20 +0100 Dan Brickley wrote: > That said, i'm sure sameAs and differentIndividual (or however it is > called) claims could probably make a mess, if added or removed... You can create some pretty awesome messes even without OWL: # An rdf:List that loops around..

Re: The Counter Ontology

2010-06-25 Thread Toby Inkster
On Fri, 2010-06-25 at 12:21 +0200, Bob Ferris wrote: > I don't know about a good translation for this, but a good German phrase > for describing this situation is: "Es wurde ja auch Zeit!". I don't know > about any good English translation for this, yet. My German is not as good as it used to be

Re: The Counter Ontology

2010-06-25 Thread Toby Inkster
On Thu, 2010-06-24 at 23:22 +0200, Bob Ferris wrote: > Here is the Counter Ontology Yay! Now we can do mid-90s style web page hit counters in RDFa! -- Toby A Inkster

Re: Org. Namespace Example

2010-06-23 Thread Toby Inkster
On Wed, 23 Jun 2010 14:52:29 -0700 (PDT) Gannon Dick wrote: > An RDF/XML example for each type is below These examples are strange. Firstly, bridges and beaches are not typically considered organisations. Secondly, you appear to be using some of the classes defined by the org vocabulary as if

Re: 'owl:Class and rdfs:Class' vs. 'owl:Class or rdfs:Class'

2010-06-16 Thread Toby Inkster
On Wed, 16 Jun 2010 14:37:29 +0200 Bob Ferris wrote: > - if one uses OWL features for modelling an ontology, define the > concepts only with owl:Class, because RDFS systems, wouldn't know how > to handle these features I think most times people use OWL for modelling an ontology, they also tend

Re: Describing Images (and similar), and Descriptor discovery.

2010-06-09 Thread Toby Inkster
On Wed, 09 Jun 2010 14:01:32 +0100 Nathan wrote: > I'm just wondering what approaches people are taking to describing > non rdf/html resources, such as Images, PDFs and similar? As Michael pointed out, if you consider the RDF document to be a "representation" (in HTTP terminology) of the image,

Re: Request for Feedback, Suggestions on TaxonConcept Species Concepts

2010-06-06 Thread Toby Inkster
On Fri, 4 Jun 2010 18:06:08 -0500 Peter DeVries wrote: > I would appreciate feedback on these models and any suggestions for > how they could be improved. :-) The following: @prefix txn: . a

Re: Migrating from slash to fragment

2010-05-23 Thread Toby Inkster
On Tue, 18 May 2010 19:39:02 +0900 "KangHao Lu (Kenny)" wrote: > I think this can be generalized and it shouldn't be con:preferredURI > but something like link:preferredURI. Have you taken a look at ? It's a vocab for talking about the different URIs that a thing has

Re: Migrating from slash to fragment

2010-05-15 Thread Toby Inkster
On Fri, 14 May 2010 17:53:50 +0100 Nathan wrote: > I'm wondering if there are any recommended paths for migrating RDF or > specifically an ontology from slash to fragment URIs (?) Cool URIs don't change. -- Toby A Inkster

Re: Linking a vCard to its holder

2010-05-15 Thread Toby Inkster
On Fri, 14 May 2010 14:23:47 +0100 Ian Davis wrote: > http://open.vocab.org/terms/businessCard Nathan has also posted this, but http://purl.org/uF/hCard/terms/hasCard has pretty much identical semantics. It's part of a vocabulary I put together a couple of years ago that I needed for

Public domain icons

2010-05-09 Thread Toby Inkster
I'm writing an RDF linter/visualiser and need some icons, preferably public domain. I've been using Tango, but they don't cover all the concepts I need. I want a coherent icon set covering the following: - Person - Organisation - Group (of people) - Document - Project - Book -

[Fwd: CPAN as linked data]

2010-04-07 Thread Toby Inkster
Original Message Subject: CPAN as linked data From:"Toby Inkster" Date:Wed, April 7, 2010 3:18 pm To: d...@lists.perlrdf.org -- This lunch ti

Re: SPARQL: sorting resources by label?

2010-03-14 Thread Toby Inkster
On Sun, 2010-03-14 at 21:01 +0100, Danny Ayers wrote: > On 14 March 2010 20:04, Toby Inkster wrote: > > > I use something like: > > > >OPTIONAL { > > ?subject ?labelprop ?label . > > GRAPH <http://buzzword.org.uk/2009/label-pr

Re: SPARQL: sorting resources by label?

2010-03-14 Thread Toby Inkster
On Sat, 2010-03-13 at 04:16 +0100, Axel Rauschmayer wrote: > > OPTIONAL { > > ?subj ?labelPred ?label . > > FILTER ( > > (?labelPred = > > ) # (1) > > ) > > FILTER( isLiteral(?label) ) > >

Re: Notes on "RDFa For Turtles"

2010-03-14 Thread Toby Inkster
On Fri, 2010-03-12 at 10:21 -0500, Paul Houle wrote: > I think the differential use of href and resource here maximizes > backwards and forwards compatibility. It is non-conformant to use > legacy link/@rel elements if @about is not set in the element. > Also, > > > > > Is disallowed because

Re: Conneg representation equivalence

2010-03-11 Thread Toby Inkster
On Thu, 2010-03-11 at 02:24 +, Nathan wrote: > If I have multiple representations of a resource which I consider > equal, let's say one of each of the following: RDF+XML, RDF+N3, SVG > > Then should all three representations be considered equivalent? They certainly *could* all represent the s

Re: RDFa for Turtles

2010-03-11 Thread Toby Inkster
On Wed, 2010-03-10 at 12:03 -0500, Paul Houle wrote: > > You want to use @property, not @rel. Also, don't forget @xml:lang! > Am I missing anything? To bullet-proof it, you may want to explicitly set @about on *all* the and elements, plus @xml:lang on all elements, to avoid chaining, a

Re: RDFa for Turtles 2: HTML embedding

2010-03-11 Thread Toby Inkster
On Wed, 2010-03-10 at 22:50 +0100, Danny Ayers wrote: > On 10 March 2010 18:19, Paul Houle wrote: > > > http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"; > xmlns:dcterms="http://purl.org/dc/terms/";> > > > > > > ... > > > This does bend the XHTML/RDFa standard and also HTML a little (those > namespace decla

[Fwd: Request for feedback on HTTP Location header syntax + semantics, Re: Issues 43 and 185, was: Issue 43 (combining fragments)]

2010-03-10 Thread Toby Inkster
I wonder if the semantics of the proposed solution to ticket 43 below have implications for httpRange-14? Original Message Subject: Request for feedback on HTTP Location header syntax + semantics, Re: Issues 43 and 185, was: Issue 43 (comb

Re: RDF, XML, XSLT: Grit

2010-01-19 Thread Toby Inkster
On Mon, 2010-01-18 at 23:32 +0100, Christoph LANGE wrote: > … of that kind: I have successfully done some XSLT processing with > RXR (http://wiki.oasis-open.org/office/RXR, > http://www.dajobe.org/papers/xmleurope2004/). I found it very nice > for XSLT processing, as there is exactly one way for

Re: Creating JSON from RDF

2009-12-13 Thread Toby Inkster
On Sat, 2009-12-12 at 21:42 +, Jeni Tennison wrote: > To put this in context, what I think we should aim for is a pure > publishing format that is optimised for approachability for normal > developers, *not* an interchange format. RDF/JSON [1] and the SPARQL > results JSON format [2] aren

Re: attaching multiple licenses

2009-12-09 Thread Toby Inkster
On Wed, 2009-12-09 at 07:15 -0500, Kingsley Idehen wrote: > Yes, I still stand by my case for HTTP URIs as implicit vehicles of > Attribution.

Re: quick advice on content negotiation

2009-12-08 Thread Toby Inkster
On Tue, 2009-12-08 at 16:43 +, Nathan wrote: > I've implemented content negotiation as follows: > where we have a URI resource http://example.org/user/23 > when that URI is requested then content negotiation using the Accept > header kicks in, if any of the RDF formats are specified and data >

Re: attaching multiple licenses

2009-12-08 Thread Toby Inkster
On Mon, 2009-12-07 at 11:05 +, Tom Heath wrote: > IIRC then Tim disagreed with this at some point, arguing that two > documents that describe the same resource and are reached by content > negotiation and a 303 from the same URI should contain the same > information to the greatest possible ext

Re: attaching multiple licenses

2009-12-06 Thread Toby Inkster
On Sun, 2009-12-06 at 19:40 +0100, Georgi Kobilarov wrote: > Say I publish one URI for an artist: > http://example.org/resource/Madonna > > I aggregate information from multiple sources about that artist, and > those sources have different licenses. One triple comes from a source > under GNU FDL,

Re: RDF Update Feeds + URI time travel on HTTP-level

2009-11-26 Thread Toby Inkster
On Thu, 2009-11-26 at 00:04 +, Richard Cyganiak wrote: > If you choose such a rather broad definition for agent-driven > negotiation, then you surely must count the practice of sending > different responses based on client IP or User-Agent header, both of > which are common on the Web, as

Re: RDF Update Feeds

2009-11-17 Thread Toby Inkster
On Tue, 2009-11-17 at 16:45 +0100, Georgi Kobilarov wrote: > How do we deal with RDF diffs? Talis' changeset vocab is a good start: http://n2.talis.com/wiki/Changesets It has enough level of details for changes to be rewound, replayed, etc. -- Toby A Inkster

Re: Data linking to Geonames

2009-11-17 Thread Toby Inkster
On Mon, 2009-11-16 at 17:31 +0100, Bernard Vatant wrote: > I would like to get updated estimation about the size of the linked > data using geonames URIs (outside Geonames publication itself, of > course). libre.fm profiles include a "location" field. After filling in this field in the edit profi

Re: differentFrom?

2009-11-16 Thread Toby Inkster
On Sat, 2009-11-14 at 22:52 +, Richard Light wrote: > But owl:disjointWith does rather better (scoring 19979). owl:disjointWith serves a rather different purpose though. The following classes are owl:differentFrom each other: ex:AcademyAwardWinner ex:GrammyAwardWinner

Re: Subjects & Tagging - Help?

2009-11-04 Thread Toby Inkster
On Wed, 2009-11-04 at 14:26 +, Nathan wrote: > Primary question in this scenario is why dc:subject through to local tag > then tag associated with moat:localMeaning rather than dc:subject > straight through to dbpedia resource? ... > > .. as from the dc docs I gathered that "This term (dc:sub

Re: Subjects & Tagging - Help?

2009-11-04 Thread Toby Inkster
On Tue, 2009-11-03 at 18:16 +, Nathan wrote: > Hoping for a little bit of guidance here on tagging & assigning > subjects to content etc - I can't quite grasp how to describe what an > item of content is about # TIMTOWTDI # Here's a few abbreviations for starters... @prefix dct:

Re: Newbie LOD Questions :)

2009-10-29 Thread Toby Inkster
On Wed, 2009-10-28 at 23:48 +, Nathan wrote: > - which are the preferred ontologies to use when trying to be very > specific about a subject (rather than dc.subject dc.creator etc which > are essentially free text based not URI identifier based) It's worth mentioning that RDFa makes it prett

Re: Linked (genealogy) data

2009-10-02 Thread Toby Inkster
On Thu, 2009-10-01 at 21:51 +0100, John Goodwin wrote: > I've been working on my family tree as linked data in my spare time. I've been looking at doing something similar but haven't gotten around to it yet. I have quite a bit on paper, but very little typed up. My plan was to enter everything in

Re: how to consume linked data

2009-09-25 Thread Toby Inkster
On 25 Sep 2009, at 07:41, Graham Klyne wrote: Interesting... I'm doing work at the moment with CIDOC-CRM (http:// cidoc.ics.forth.gr/) and its expression in OWL (http:// www8.informatik.uni-erlangen.de/IMMD8/Services/cidoc-crm/ versions.html). Have you seen Simon Reinhardt's recent OWL2 ver

Re: Quick Update re. DBpedia RDFa pages

2009-09-18 Thread Toby Inkster
On 18 Sep 2009, at 14:26, Kingsley Idehen wrote: We've enhanced the initial release of DBpedia's HTML+RDFa pages. All the literals are @en. Would be nice to have a few xml:lang attributes where appropriate. -- Toby A Inkster

Re: SPARQL: restricting DESCRIBE queries

2009-09-07 Thread Toby Inkster
On 7 Sep 2009, at 15:36, Bernhard Schandl wrote: DESCRIBE ?concept WHERE { ?concept rdfs:label "Berlin"@en . } LIMIT 2 returns some ~4500 triples because it includes the description of dbpedia:Berlin. Any suggestions how I could limit the number of triples returned by such a query? Fak

Re: What about music-related URIs???

2009-09-07 Thread Toby Inkster
On 6 Sep 2009, at 17:06, Dan Brickley wrote: ps. i am just running MusicBrainz Picard tagger over all my mp3s (includes all the CDs I ever bought...). ... Is there a tool / workflow people here can recommend to turn all that into RDF locally? does picard keep a db somewhere, or all metadata is j

Project idea: cviki (or some better name than that)

2009-09-01 Thread Toby Inkster
I think this is a great idea for a project, but I don't have time to do it myself... 1. Set up a wiki (pref MediaWiki) for people to publish their CVs/ Resumés. This might need slightly different access restrictions than normal MediaWiki installations to prevent people from negatively edit

Re: ANN: BestBuy.com starts publishing full catalog as RDF/XML using GoodRelations - 27 million triples

2009-09-01 Thread Toby Inkster
On 1 Sep 2009, at 08:23, Martin Hepp (UniBW) wrote: All individual item URIs, e.g. http://products.semweb.bestbuy.com/products/8182593/semanticweb.rdf should be dereferenceable and return a RDF/XML representation with the proper media type. But the RDF obtained by dereferencing that URI i

Re: Top three levels of Dewey Decimal Classification published as linked data

2009-08-20 Thread Toby Inkster
On Wed, 2009-08-19 at 14:27 -0400, Panzer,Michael wrote: > I would like to announce the availability of the DDC Summaries as a > linked data service that uses SKOS and other vocabularies for > representation [1]. Please take a look if you like. Comments, > suggestions, and advice are really appreci

Re: data.gov now live with RDFa

2009-08-19 Thread Toby Inkster
On Wed, 2009-08-19 at 06:50 -0400, rick wrote: > http://www.data.gov/ > The page has two triples. Ten by my count. The namespace for Dublin Core is wrong though. It's currently pointed at which is a documentation file. The namespace should

Re: ProductDB

2009-08-14 Thread Toby Inkster
On Fri, 2009-08-14 at 18:12 +0200, Simon Reinhardt wrote: > barter:wants owl:propertyChainAxiom (gr:seeks gr:includesObject > gr:typeOfGood) . owl:propertyChainAxiom = awesome. I really need to take a closer look at OWL2. Without knowing about owl:propertyChainAxiom, I would have suggested N3:

Re: ProductDB

2009-08-14 Thread Toby Inkster
On Fri, 2009-08-14 at 15:17 +0200, Martin Hepp (UniBW) wrote: > Note that the GoodRelations "seeks" patterns allows using the full > amount of details and the same vocabulary for specifying wish lists > you can say that you are interested in TV sets with at least 11 inches > of screen size etc. So

Re: ProductDB

2009-08-14 Thread Toby Inkster
On Fri, 2009-08-14 at 10:15 +0100, Ian Davis wrote: > I'm pleased to announce the first release of ProductDB: > http://productdb.org/ Nice. This, I think, would be very useful in conjunction with a few terms to link products to people and organisations. Firstly: where are products available?

Re: ANN: RDF2RDFa: Turning RDF/XML into Snippets for Copy-and-Paste

2009-08-14 Thread Toby Inkster
On Thu, 2009-08-13 at 23:50 +0200, Martin Hepp (UniBW) wrote: > The tool is available at > http://www.ebusiness-unibw.org/tools/rdf2rdfa/ A few bits of feedback: 1. The contents of the @content attributes don't seem to be properly HTML-escaped. This is especially problematic for literals that con

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