Re: What would you build with a web of data? Decision support

2010-04-13 Thread Wolfgang Orthuber
Hi Georgi, First let me underline that the following is not a detached theory, it is very practical: The web of data can support the clinician in his cycle of decision: (a)The clinician makes measurements (in the broadest sense, also speaking with the patient and looking at a picture is

Re: What would you build with a web of data?

2010-04-12 Thread Olaf Hartig
On Monday 12 April 2010 16:14:56 Georgi Kobilarov wrote: > [...] > So after your work on SQUIN, what is your conclusion? Does the distributed > querying approach work well enough that you can imagine a developer > building an application/website using it? First of all, the query approach implemen

RE: What would you build with a web of data?

2010-04-12 Thread Georgi Kobilarov
Hi Yves, > -Original Message- > From: Yves Raimond [mailto:yves.raim...@gmail.com] > Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2010 1:11 PM > Subject: Re: What would you build with a web of data? > > > My observation is that there are zero real apps using linked open data (i.e. >

RE: What would you build with a web of data?

2010-04-12 Thread Georgi Kobilarov
Hi Juan, > This has been my concern from day one! And day one from me was when I > attended the Publishing Linked Data tutorial [1] at ISWC2008! It wasn't clear > to me what you could do with Linked Data, for a web developer perspective. > However, then I saw the Semantic Web Client Library [2] an

RE: What would you build with a web of data?

2010-04-12 Thread Georgi Kobilarov
Hi Bernard, From: Bernard Vatant [mailto:bernard.vat...@mondeca.com] Sent: Friday, April 09, 2010 7:16 PM To: Georgi Kobilarov Cc: public-lod Subject: Re: What would you build with a web of data? There are applications that re-use identifiers, and there are applications that use single

Re: What would you build with a web of data?

2010-04-11 Thread Giovanni Tummarello
+1 thanks Nathan for pointing this out, very very relevant. "luckly" so far it seems a bit too rooted in MS stack of things (just looking at it very very superficially) :-)? Gio > ps: realistically there's the whole microsoft thing to keep in the back > of our minds; they have pretty much a semi-

Re: What would you build with a web of data?

2010-04-11 Thread Giovanni Tummarello
t;> documents.  The end user is probably better off for it. >>> >>> I think one big area could be ecommerce, or data driven commerce. >>> Decentralizing transactions (i would again use a data wiki driven solution >>> for this) within our current legal framework co

Re: What would you build with a web of data?

2010-04-10 Thread John Erickson
I'm going to set aside the question of problems and consider *possibilities* for a moment. I think linked open data offers profound opportunities for community-driven applications; I'll use citizen science as a specific example. I was reminded of this as I listened to this week's episode of "Mate

Re: What would you build with a web of data?

2010-04-10 Thread Hugh Glaser
On 10/04/2010 12:10, "Yves Raimond" wrote: >> My observation is that there are zero real apps using linked open data (i.e. >> data from "the cloud"). Not even a single one. Null. >> After 3 years of "linking open data"... >> > > Aw. Come on Georgi. How can you launch such a FUD after having see

Re: What would you build with a web of data?

2010-04-10 Thread Yves Raimond
> My observation is that there are zero real apps using linked open data (i.e. > data from "the cloud"). Not even a single one. Null. > After 3 years of "linking open data"... > Aw. Come on Georgi. How can you launch such a FUD after having seen a demo of the amazing Musicbore, really. http://vim

Re: What would you build with a web of data?

2010-04-10 Thread Ivan Herman
want to build now, and then see why it's not possible. If it > doesn't work on the small scale of some simple app, how will linked data > ever save our planet? > > Cheers, > Georgi > > > -Original Message- > > From: Bernard Vatant [mailto:bernard.vat...@m

Re: What would you build with a web of data?

2010-04-09 Thread François Dongier
lization of >>> documents. The end user is probably better off for it. >>> >>> I think one big area could be ecommerce, or data driven commerce. >>> Decentralizing transactions (i would again use a data wiki driven solution >>> for this) within our current legal f

Re: What would you build with a web of data?

2010-04-09 Thread Juan Sequeda
er a boost to the economy. Countries like greece >> could benefit from a boost to their economy. In fact, all countries could. >> WIth any decentralization process there's going to be winners and losers, >> but again hopefully the end user will be better off in the long term. &g

Re: What would you build with a web of data?

2010-04-09 Thread François Dongier
hopefully the end user will be better off in the long term. > > WIll this equate to saving the planet? Maybe, just maybe ... :) > > >> >> Cheers, >> Georgi >> >> > -Original Message- >> > From: Bernard Vatant [mailto:bernard.vat...@monde

Re: What would you build with a web of data?

2010-04-09 Thread Paul Houle
On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 4:48 AM, Georgi Kobilarov wrote: > > Let's be creative about stuff we'd build with the web of data. Assume the > Linked Data Web would be there already, what would build? > > Lots of things: (1) A 'smart' encyclopedia that can reformat Wikipedia (and other content) for sp

Re: What would you build with a web of data?

2010-04-09 Thread Melvin Carvalho
WIll this equate to saving the planet? Maybe, just maybe ... :) > > Cheers, > Georgi > > > -Original Message- > > From: Bernard Vatant [mailto:bernard.vat...@mondeca.com] > > Sent: Friday, April 09, 2010 12:25 PM > > To: Georgi Kobilarov > > C

Re: What would you build with a web of data?

2010-04-09 Thread Juan Sequeda
ople would want to build now, and then see why it's not possible. If it > doesn't work on the small scale of some simple app, how will linked data > ever save our planet? > > Cheers, > Georgi > > > -Original Message- > > From: Bernard Vatant [mailto:b

Re: What would you build with a web of data?

2010-04-09 Thread Bernard Vatant
Original Message----- > > From: Bernard Vatant [mailto:bernard.vat...@mondeca.com] > > Sent: Friday, April 09, 2010 12:25 PM > > To: Georgi Kobilarov > > Cc: public-lod > > Subject: Re: What would you build with a web of data? > > > > Hi Georgi > > C

Re: What would you build with a web of data?

2010-04-09 Thread Nathan
Nathan wrote: > Georgi Kobilarov wrote: >> Hi Matthias, >> There are applications that re-use identifiers, and there are applications that use single, hand-picked data sources. But let's be honest, that's not "using the linked data cloud". So, why's that? There must be a reason

Re: What would you build with a web of data?

2010-04-09 Thread Nathan
Georgi Kobilarov wrote: > Hi Matthias, > >>> There are applications that re-use identifiers, and there are >>> applications that use single, hand-picked data sources. But let's be >>> honest, that's not "using the linked data cloud". So, why's that? >>> There must be a reason. >>> Which >>> part

Re: What would you build with a web of data?

2010-04-09 Thread Aldo Bucchi
;s not possible. If it doesn't work on the small scale of some simple app, how will linked data ever save our planet? Cheers, Georgi -Original Message- From: Bernard Vatant [mailto:bernard.vat...@mondeca.com] Sent: Friday, April 09, 2010 12:25 PM To: Georgi Kobilarov Cc: public-l

RE: What would you build with a web of data?

2010-04-09 Thread Georgi Kobilarov
Hi Matthias, > > There are applications that re-use identifiers, and there are > > applications that use single, hand-picked data sources. But let's be > > honest, that's not "using the linked data cloud". So, why's that? > > There must be a reason. > > Which > > part of the ecosystem sucks? > >

Re: What would you build with a web of data?

2010-04-09 Thread Adrian Walker
Hi All, Good question. Here's a description of an app about energy independence www.reengineeringllc.com/EnergyIndependence1.pdf and here is the same thing as a video www.reengineeringllc.com/EnergyIndependence1Video.htm (Flash video with audio) You can also run the app itself, and get e

RE: What would you build with a web of data?

2010-04-09 Thread Georgi Kobilarov
t work on the small scale of some simple app, how will linked > > data ever save our planet? > > > > Cheers, > > Georgi > > > >> -Original Message- > >> From: Bernard Vatant [mailto:bernard.vat...@mondeca.com] > >> Sent: Friday, April 09, 2

Re: What would you build with a web of data?

2010-04-09 Thread Matthias Samwald
Georgi wrote: There are applications that re-use identifiers, and there are applications that use single, hand-picked data sources. But let's be honest, that's not "using the linked data cloud". So, why's that? There must be a reason. Which part of the ecosystem sucks? I don't see why limit

Re: What would you build with a web of data?

2010-04-09 Thread Aldo Bucchi
ant [mailto:bernard.vat...@mondeca.com] Sent: Friday, April 09, 2010 12:25 PM To: Georgi Kobilarov Cc: public-lod Subject: Re: What would you build with a web of data? Hi Georgi Copying below the comment I just posted on ReadWriteWeb. Looks like a rant, but could have been worse ... I could have ad

RE: What would you build with a web of data?

2010-04-09 Thread Georgi Kobilarov
? Cheers, Georgi > -Original Message- > From: Bernard Vatant [mailto:bernard.vat...@mondeca.com] > Sent: Friday, April 09, 2010 12:25 PM > To: Georgi Kobilarov > Cc: public-lod > Subject: Re: What would you build with a web of data? > > Hi Georgi > Copying below the

Re: What would you build with a web of data?

2010-04-09 Thread Bernard Vatant
Hi Georgi Copying below the comment I just posted on ReadWriteWeb. Looks like a rant, but could have been worse ... I could have added that if the Web of Data is used to find out more cute cats images, well, I wonder what I do on this boat. I'm amazed, not to say frightened, by the egocentrism an

What would you build with a web of data?

2010-04-09 Thread Georgi Kobilarov
Yesterday issued a challenge on my blog for ideas for concrete linked open data applications. Because talking about concrete apps helps shaping the roadmap for the technical questions for the linked data community ahead. The real questions, not the theoretical ones... Richard MacManus of ReadWrite