Ontology entity IDs

2006-07-10 Thread William Bug
Hi Trish,I too would be interested in hearing more about what Chris M. has been doing with alphanumeric IDs in translating between OBO format & OWL.As I've mentioned earlier, I'm more comfortable with the sort of URI Alan presents below, than one where term strings are used as IDs.  In essence, the

Re: ontology specs for self-publishing experiment

2006-07-10 Thread Alan Ruttenberg
Hi Trish, What was the specifics of the argument for alphanumeric versus numeric identifiers? If you check out the go-format list I recently sent some examples that use identifiers of the form http://www.bioontologies.org/2006/02/obo/GO#001 Details are in http://sourceforge.net/maila

[BIONT] Teleconference (Date correction) Tomorrow, Tuesday 11th July, 2006

2006-07-10 Thread Kashyap, Vipul
  Phone: +1 617 761 6200, conference 24668 ("BIONT")   IRC: irc://irc.w3.org:6665/hcls   Browser-based IRC client: http://www.w3.org/2001/01/cgi-irc   Date and Time: 11th July, 2006, 11:00am - 12:00pm   Agenda:   -    Discuss progress on Ontology Task Force tasks -    An

[BIONT] Teleconference

2006-07-10 Thread Kashyap, Vipul
Phone: +1 617 761 6200, conference 24668 ("BIONT")   IRC: irc://irc.w3.org:6665/hcls   Browser-based IRC client: http://www.w3.org/2001/01/cgi-irc   Date and Time: 13th June, 2006, 11:00am - 12:00pm   Agenda:   -    Discuss progress on Ontology Task Force tasks -    Any o

[HCLS] tagging publications/experiments with Annotea topics

2006-07-10 Thread Marja Koivunen
With Annotea social bookmarks a user can tag their published experiments with selected topics. This helps in finding them especially if we come up with some recommended topics and publish them as bookmark files and make links between topics that are similar enough. The rest of the detailed in

Re: ontology specs for self-publishing experiment

2006-07-10 Thread William Bug
Dear Philip,Thanks again for your thoughtful and candid comments.I'm glad you mentioned "Sonic Hedgehog."  :-)I would have to disagree on the point you are making here.From the point of view of mining the literature, use of language is remarkably "messy" given the business of science.As wonderfully

Re: ontology specs for self-publishing experiment

2006-07-10 Thread Trish Whetzel
AR> Could I strongly support the following. If there is one AR> repeatedly confirmed lesson from the medical communities AR> experience with large terminologies/ontologies/ it is to AR> separate the "terms" from the "entities". ... Not that I wish to disagree with Alan, of course, but

RE: ontology specs for self-publishing experiment

2006-07-10 Thread Miller, Michael D (Rosetta)
Hi All, > Yes, but put another way, you have refactored the problem of > "incommensurateness" into two more tractable pieces - one about the > data structures to convey meaning, the other about the meanings > conveyed. You have also removed the risk of conflating the two ... Thanks, Alan

Re: ontology specs for self-publishing experiment

2006-07-10 Thread Alan Rector
On 10 Jul 2006, at 11:42, Phillip Lord wrote: "AR" == Alan Rector <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: AR> All AR> Just catching up. AR> Could I strongly support the following. If there is one AR> repeatedly confirmed lesson from the medical communities AR> experience with large term

Re: XML vs. RDF

2006-07-10 Thread William Bug
Dear Philip,I agree with every comment you make - 100%.Thanks for taking the time to address some of these issues.See below for very brief addenda.Cheers,BillOn Jul 10, 2006, at 6:36 AM, Phillip Lord wrote: "WB" == William Bug <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:   WB> 5) OWL isn't perfect for representing

Re: ontology specs for self-publishing experiment

2006-07-10 Thread Phillip Lord
> "AR" == Alan Rector <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: AR> All AR> Just catching up. AR> Could I strongly support the following. If there is one AR> repeatedly confirmed lesson from the medical communities AR> experience with large terminologies/ontologies/ it is to AR> separate t

Re: XML vs. RDF

2006-07-10 Thread Phillip Lord
> "WB" == William Bug <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: WB> 5) OWL isn't perfect for representing formal ontological WB> frameworks - besides we're just representing terminologies, not WB> building an ontology OWL is sufficient for representing terminologies as far as I can tell. To su

Re: ontology specs for self-publishing experiment

2006-07-10 Thread Phillip Lord
> "cm" == chris mungall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Converting between one syntax and another is fairly simple, and >> there are some reasonably tools for it. XSLT would work for >> converting XML into RDF. I wouldn't like to use it for converting >> the other way (actually I would