Re: Yosemite Manifesto on RDF as a Universal Healthcare Exchange Language

2013-06-07 Thread David Booth
On 06/07/2013 01:40 PM, Michael Brunnbauer wrote: Not a single word about privacy and dangers in the position statement ? Strange... Right. Privacy is very important, but orthogonal: privacy requirements would apply to *any* information representation language. The intent was to keep the Yo

Re: Yosemite Manifesto on RDF as a Universal Healthcare Exchange Language

2013-06-07 Thread David Booth
On 06/07/2013 01:40 PM, Michael Brunnbauer wrote:> > I think life sciences have been early adopters for a while so this may > be a bit of preaching to the converted :-) I sure hope so! :) On 06/07/2013 02:00 PM, Michael Brunnbauer wrote: On Fri, Jun 07, 2013 at 10:44:55AM -0700, peter.hend...@

Survey on defining practices in ontologies

2013-06-07 Thread Selja Seppälä
In view of the upcoming Definitions in Ontologies (DO 2013) workshop that will be held on July 7, in Montreal, in conjunction with ICBO 2013, we are sending out a survey on definitions: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/11yxHNL6noN8_oa8aEuHowOZZTvd__t164pNgtmEzSG8/viewform. The objective is to ga

RE: Yosemite Manifesto on RDF as a Universal Healthcare Exchange Language

2013-06-07 Thread Rich Cooper
OK, technically, the CCR spec imposes a model, but it is the universal model with the least specification density because all EHRs are required to output it. That means it is a universal input to all databases. And the conversion of XML formats to any database you want is up to the beholder. Con

Re: Yosemite Manifesto on RDF as a Universal Healthcare Exchange Language

2013-06-07 Thread Michael Brunnbauer
Hello Rich, On Fri, Jun 07, 2013 at 11:17:27AM -0700, Rich Cooper wrote: > By NTSC specification, all certified EHR systems > must be able to output XML files in the CCR > (continuity of care record) format, so there is > already a standard for the data itself, We are talking about healthcare in

Re: Yosemite Manifesto on RDF as a Universal Healthcare Exchange Language

2013-06-07 Thread Conor Dowling
(David - correct me if I'm wrong here). The emphasis of the health-care sessions at SemTech was on RDF to "*surface your semantics*" (Charlie Mead's phrase), as one medium for *both data and schema*. No data arrangement is forced on you when you expose what you have. As David said at SemTech, "RD

RE: Yosemite Manifesto on RDF as a Universal Healthcare Exchange Language

2013-06-07 Thread Rich Cooper
By NTSC specification, all certified EHR systems must be able to output XML files in the CCR (continuity of care record) format, so there is already a standard for the data itself, with no models imposed on the data. -Rich Sincerely, Rich Cooper EnglishLogicKernel.com Rich AT EnglishLo

Re: Yosemite Manifesto on RDF as a Universal Healthcare Exchange Language

2013-06-07 Thread Peter . Hendler
And everyone makes there own SNOMED and HL7. I don't know. We all basically agreed to "a model" when making SNOMED. It would never have worked if everyone could make their own roles. NOTICE TO RECIPIENT: If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are prohibited from sharin

Re: Yosemite Manifesto on RDF as a Universal Healthcare Exchange Language

2013-06-07 Thread Michael Brunnbauer
Hello Peter, On Fri, Jun 07, 2013 at 10:44:55AM -0700, peter.hend...@kp.org wrote: > We'll still argue about whether we use SNOMED roles, make HL7 rim classes > and roles or openEHR or something else. Asking for a single extensive ontology about the world - or even about a limited subject - tha

Re: Yosemite Manifesto on RDF as a Universal Healthcare Exchange Language

2013-06-07 Thread Peter . Hendler
Also, the RDF is just triplets. It doesn't say who's model. It is RDF of a SNOMED like or HL7 like or openEHR like model? Does everyone make up their own roles and nodes? So saying it's RDF leaves all the same problems we have now. It's not so much the representation as it is the models. W

Re: Yosemite Manifesto on RDF as a Universal Healthcare Exchange Language

2013-06-07 Thread Michael Brunnbauer
Hello David, I think life sciences have been early adopters for a while so this may be a bit of preaching to the converted :-) Not a single word about privacy and dangers in the position statement ? Strange... Regards, Michael Brunnbauer On Fri, Jun 07, 2013 at 01:03:17PM -0400, David Booth

Yosemite Manifesto on RDF as a Universal Healthcare Exchange Language

2013-06-07 Thread David Booth
FYI, there is an excellent article on SemanticWeb.com about the workshop held this week at the SemTech conference, on "RDF as a Universal Healthcare Exchange Language", which culminated in a position statement called the "Yosemite Manifesto": http://goo.gl/eibDL Here is the manifesto itself: h