Re: protein entities (was Re: Rules (was Re: Ambiguous names. was: Re: URL +1, LSID -1)

2007-07-19 Thread Waclaw Kusnierczyk
Michel_Dumontier wrote: Darren, Also, while we recognize that there are different qualities that can be ascribed to a basically identical biochemical entity in different structural conformations or states of ligand binding, we are not attempting (at least in the beginning) to describe these st

Re: protein entities (was Re: Rules (was Re: Ambiguous names. was: Re: URL +1, LSID -1)

2007-07-19 Thread Waclaw Kusnierczyk
Michel_Dumontier wrote: Sequence form is again a placeholder term ... ... distinguish between a phosphorylated version of a protein and the non-phosphorylated version (as an example). The need for the latter derives from the fact that the two versions might have different functions. Inde

Re: protein entities

2007-07-19 Thread Waclaw Kusnierczyk
Darren Natale wrote: Protein, in this scheme, is the amino acid polymer produced by a translation process using an mRNA as a template. This fits about any polypeptide produced by a ribosome. I'd think that the term 'protein' is reserved for some, but not all polypeptides (even if we talk

Re: Ambiguous names. was: Re: URL +1, LSID -1

2007-07-16 Thread Waclaw Kusnierczyk
Matthias Samwald wrote: The evidence for what I point out is found everywhere: "P12345 is expressed in some tissues"... according to Alan's points, this would be a wrong statement. When the Semantic Web should really find widespread adoption, they would be saying something like "C12345 is

Re: Ambiguous names. was: Re: URL +1, LSID -1

2007-07-16 Thread Waclaw Kusnierczyk
sorry! i got confused by the response to response pattern. vQ Marijke Keet wrote: p.s.: I did not write that, that was Eric. I know I ought to have taken up that point as well, but then, my time is limited. regards, marijke Waclaw Kusnierczyk ha scritto: Marijke Keet wrote: The

Re: Ambiguous names. was: Re: URL +1, LSID -1

2007-07-16 Thread Waclaw Kusnierczyk
Marijke Keet wrote: The problem with proteins is that I haven't seen any biologists agree on a general way to determine whether two proteins are the same or not, sure. how can you determine that *two* entities are *one* entity? (they may become one, but that's a different story.) vQ

Re: Evidence

2007-06-12 Thread Waclaw Kusnierczyk
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * In the view of BFO-friendly ontologies, there exists no thing that IS evidence. Instead, evidence is a ROLE that can be plaid by things in a certain context. Mathias, if you look carefully at BFO, you'll see that roles are entities. This means that evidences, as

Re: Evidence

2007-06-12 Thread Waclaw Kusnierczyk
Daniel Rubin wrote: At 07:15 AM 6/11/2007, Matt Williams wrote: I changed the subject line to make it more specific. I think that Evidence is a tricky, slippery subject. It seems to be both traces (i.e. records of something) and in many cases, inferences. Those inferences probably shouldn'

Re: Evidence

2007-06-12 Thread Waclaw Kusnierczyk
Daniel Rubin wrote: At 07:15 AM 6/11/2007, Matt Williams wrote: I changed the subject line to make it more specific. I think that Evidence is a tricky, slippery subject. It seems to be both traces (i.e. records of something) and in many cases, inferences. Those inferences probably shouldn'