Re: Opening Walled Gardens: RDF / Linked Data as the Universal Exchange Language of Healthcare

2013-01-16 Thread David Booth
Hi Frank, Thanks for the comments, and sorry for the accidentally delayed reply. On Tue, 2013-01-15 at 10:32 -0500, Frank Manola wrote: > David-- > > A few quick comments below. > > On Jan 15, 2013, at 9:34 AM, David Booth wrote: > > > Hi, and thanks for your comments! > > > > On Tue, 2013-01

RE: Opening Walled Gardens: RDF / Linked Data as the Universal Exchange Language of Healthcare

2013-01-16 Thread Mead, Charlie (NIH/NCI) [C]
nt: Wednesday, January 16, 2013 3:19 PM To: Michael Miller Cc: Mead, Charlie (NIH/NCI) [C]; David Booth; public-semweb-lifesci Subject: Re: Opening Walled Gardens: RDF / Linked Data as the Universal Exchange Language of Healthcare Good to see this change. Will this make RIM more usable? --Sivara

Re: Opening Walled Gardens: RDF / Linked Data as the Universal Exchange Language of Healthcare

2013-01-16 Thread Sivaram Arabandi, MD
..@mail.nih.gov] >> Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2013 10:01 AM >> To: Michael Miller >> Cc: David Booth; public-semweb-lifesci >> Subject: RE: Opening Walled Gardens: RDF / Linked Data as the Universal >> Exchange Language of Healthcare >> >> Hi Michael --

RE: Opening Walled Gardens: RDF / Linked Data as the Universal Exchange Language of Healthcare

2013-01-16 Thread Michael Miller
ust finishing the documentation. > > charlie > > From: Michael Miller [michael.mil...@systemsbiology.org] > Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2013 10:52 AM > To: Mead, Charlie (NIH/NCI) [C] > Cc: David Booth; public-semweb-lifesci > Subject: RE: Opening Walle

RE: Opening Walled Gardens: RDF / Linked Data as the Universal Exchange Language of Healthcare

2013-01-16 Thread Mead, Charlie (NIH/NCI) [C]
...@systemsbiology.org] Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2013 10:52 AM To: Mead, Charlie (NIH/NCI) [C] Cc: David Booth; public-semweb-lifesci Subject: RE: Opening Walled Gardens: RDF / Linked Data as the Universal Exchange Language of Healthcare hi charlie, and is OWL able to capture everything about the MIF so

RE: Opening Walled Gardens: RDF / Linked Data as the Universal Exchange Language of Healthcare

2013-01-16 Thread Michael Miller
manticidentity.com] > Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 11:48 PM > To: Tom Morris; public-semweb-lifesci > Cc: David Booth; RebholzSchuhmann; Joanne Luciano; Michel Dumontier; > Conor Dowling; Rafael Richards > Subject: Re: Opening Walled Gardens: RDF / Linked Data as the Universal >

RE: Opening Walled Gardens: RDF / Linked Data as the Universal Exchange Language of Healthcare

2013-01-16 Thread Mead, Charlie (NIH/NCI) [C]
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2013 6:05 AM To: Mead, Charlie (NIH/NCI) [C] Cc: Tom Morris; public-semweb-lifesci; David Booth; RebholzSchuhmann; Joanne Luciano; Michel Dumontier; Conor Dowling; Rafael Richards Subject: Re: Opening Walled Gardens: RDF / Linked Data as the Universal Exchange Langua

Re: Opening Walled Gardens: RDF / Linked Data as the Universal Exchange Language of Healthcare

2013-01-16 Thread Renato Iannella
On 16 Jan 2013, at 16:08, "Mead, Charlie (NIH/NCI) [C]" wrote: > HL7 has just completed its first version of the entire MIF -- RIM + data > types + vocabulary -- in OWL Great..any chance that someone will tell us where it is ? ;-) Cheers... Renato Iannella Semantic Identity http://semant

Re: Opening Walled Gardens: RDF / Linked Data as the Universal Exchange Language of Healthcare

2013-01-15 Thread Michel Dumontier
On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 1:08 AM, Mead, Charlie (NIH/NCI) [C] < mea...@mail.nih.gov> wrote: > . Other activities on the radar are representation of all existing > RIM-derived artifacts -- e.g. RMIMs and CDA templates -- in OWL. There is > definitely movement. +1 m. -- Michel Dumontier Asso

RE: Opening Walled Gardens: RDF / Linked Data as the Universal Exchange Language of Healthcare

2013-01-15 Thread Mead, Charlie (NIH/NCI) [C]
-semweb-lifesci Cc: David Booth; RebholzSchuhmann; Joanne Luciano; Michel Dumontier; Conor Dowling; Rafael Richards Subject: Re: Opening Walled Gardens: RDF / Linked Data as the Universal Exchange Language of Healthcare On 16 Jan 2013, at 02:24, Tom Morris wrote: > I think the argument would

Re: Opening Walled Gardens: RDF / Linked Data as the Universal Exchange Language of Healthcare

2013-01-15 Thread Renato Iannella
On 16 Jan 2013, at 02:24, Tom Morris wrote: > I think the argument would be greatly strengthened by proof points to > support the claims. They don't need to be long and elaborate. The best real-world example would be the BBC's Olympic Games system that used RDF [1]. I think the Response pape

Re: Wiki page on RDF success stories? [was Re: Opening Walled Gardens: RDF / Linked Data as the Universal Exchange Language of Healthcare]

2013-01-15 Thread Mark
Jerven from uniprot has a paper (accepted? Not sure... At least submitted - he sent me the submission) where he details how RDF has made his life much much easier... It may be worth knocking on his door for additional comment at least... M Tom Morris wrote: >On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 12:41

Re: Wiki page on RDF success stories? [was Re: Opening Walled Gardens: RDF / Linked Data as the Universal Exchange Language of Healthcare]

2013-01-15 Thread Tom Morris
On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 12:41 PM, David Booth wrote: > Hi Tom, > > On Tue, 2013-01-15 at 11:24 -0500, Tom Morris wrote: >> On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 9:34 AM, David Booth wrote: > [ . . . ] >> > Yes, we decided that we simply didn't have time to write a long document >> > that more fully explained t

Re: Opening Walled Gardens: RDF / Linked Data as the Universal Exchange Language of Healthcare

2013-01-15 Thread Tom Morris
On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 12:34 PM, Kingsley Idehen wrote: > On 1/15/13 11:06 AM, Mead, Charlie (NIH/NCI) [C] wrote: >> >> The first version of the HL7 MIF in OWL is now available for comment, >> criticism, evolution, and usage. > > Do you have URL from which the OWL rendition can be accessed? Perh

Wiki page on RDF success stories? [was Re: Opening Walled Gardens: RDF / Linked Data as the Universal Exchange Language of Healthcare]

2013-01-15 Thread David Booth
Hi Tom, On Tue, 2013-01-15 at 11:24 -0500, Tom Morris wrote: > On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 9:34 AM, David Booth wrote: [ . . . ] > > Yes, we decided that we simply didn't have time to write a long document > > that more fully explained the benefits [of RDF]. > > I think the argument would be greatly

Re: Opening Walled Gardens: RDF / Linked Data as the Universal Exchange Language of Healthcare

2013-01-15 Thread Kingsley Idehen
On 1/15/13 11:06 AM, Mead, Charlie (NIH/NCI) [C] wrote: The first version of the HL7 MIF in OWL is now available for comment, criticism, evolution, and usage. Do you have URL from which the OWL rendition can be accessed? -- Regards, Kingsley Idehen Founder & CEO OpenLink Software Company We

RE: Opening Walled Gardens: RDF / Linked Data as the Universal Exchange Language of Healthcare

2013-01-15 Thread David Booth
ow available for comment, > criticism, evolution, and usage. Excellent! David > > charlie > > From: Sivaram Arabandi, MD [sivaram.araba...@gmail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 10:03 AM > To: RebholzSchuhmann > Cc: Joanne Luciano; David Booth; public-semweb-lifesc

Re: Opening Walled Gardens: RDF / Linked Data as the Universal Exchange Language of Healthcare

2013-01-15 Thread Tom Morris
On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 9:34 AM, David Booth wrote: > Hi, and thanks for your comments! > > On Tue, 2013-01-15 at 12:58 +, RebholzSchuhmann wrote: >> >> don't know how someone reads this, who does not know all these benefits >> anyways. Reads as if you are selling RDF to somebody who knows hal

Re: Opening Walled Gardens: RDF / Linked Data as the Universal Exchange Language of Healthcare

2013-01-15 Thread David Booth
Hi Sivaram, On Tue, 2013-01-15 at 09:03 -0600, Sivaram Arabandi, MD wrote: > Agree with this and want to add one more - this statement from the document: > "Meaningful Use currently mandates a patchwork of idiosyncratic > formats, such as HL7, CCD/ C32, CCR, NCPDP SCRIPT, C-CDA and QRDA. > W

RE: Opening Walled Gardens: RDF / Linked Data as the Universal Exchange Language of Healthcare

2013-01-15 Thread Mead, Charlie (NIH/NCI) [C]
lic-semweb-lifesci; Michel Dumontier; Conor Dowling; Rafael Richards Subject: Re: Opening Walled Gardens: RDF / Linked Data as the Universal Exchange Language of Healthcare Agree with this and want to add one more - this statement from the document: "Meaningful Use currently mandat

Re: Opening Walled Gardens: RDF / Linked Data as the Universal Exchange Language of Healthcare

2013-01-15 Thread Frank Manola
David-- A few quick comments below. On Jan 15, 2013, at 9:34 AM, David Booth wrote: > Hi, and thanks for your comments! > > On Tue, 2013-01-15 at 12:58 +, RebholzSchuhmann wrote: >> Hi, >> >> don't know how someone reads this, who does not know all these benefits >> anyways. Reads as if y

RE: Opening Walled Gardens: RDF / Linked Data as the Universal Exchange Language of Healthcare

2013-01-15 Thread Michael Miller
mail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 4:41 AM > To: David Booth > Cc: public-semweb-lifesci; Michel Dumontier; Conor Dowling; Rafael Richards > Subject: Re: Opening Walled Gardens: RDF / Linked Data as the Universal > Exchange Language of Healthcare > > Thanks for doing t

Re: Opening Walled Gardens: RDF / Linked Data as the Universal Exchange Language of Healthcare

2013-01-15 Thread Sivaram Arabandi, MD
Agree with this and want to add one more - this statement from the document: "Meaningful Use currently mandates a patchwork of idiosyncratic formats, such as HL7, CCD/ C32, CCR, NCPDP SCRIPT, C-CDA and QRDA. While such formats provide a degree of machine processability, in comparison, RDF

Re: Opening Walled Gardens: RDF / Linked Data as the Universal Exchange Language of Healthcare

2013-01-15 Thread David Booth
Hi, and thanks for your comments! On Tue, 2013-01-15 at 12:58 +, RebholzSchuhmann wrote: > Hi, > > don't know how someone reads this, who does not know all these benefits > anyways. Reads as if you are selling RDF to somebody who knows half-way > the benefits of RDF. Yes, we decided that w

Re: Opening Walled Gardens: RDF / Linked Data as the Universal Exchange Language of Healthcare

2013-01-15 Thread RebholzSchuhmann
Hi, don't know how someone reads this, who does not know all these benefits anyways. Reads as if you are selling RDF to somebody who knows half-way the benefits of RDF. It would have made sense to be more precise on the privacy and security issues. Neither RDF nor XML have been developed to ad