Re: Question about standardization

2009-05-19 Thread Kei Cheung
Michael Hucka wrote: SS> Hi Mike, It's good to hear from you. SS> Would you be interested in having a call to discuss SS> the various options? Hi Susie, Good to hear from you too! It's been a while :-). A call (I presume a group call?) sounds like a good idea. What kind of time frame do

Re: Question about standardization

2009-05-18 Thread Michael Hucka
SS> Hi Mike, It's good to hear from you. SS> Would you be interested in having a call to discuss SS> the various options? Hi Susie, Good to hear from you too! It's been a while :-). A call (I presume a group call?) sounds like a good idea. What kind of time frame do you have in mind? I'd

Re: Question about standardization

2009-05-17 Thread Susie Stephens
Hi Mike, It's good to hear from you. Would you be interested in having a call to discuss the various options? Cheers, Susie On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 4:56 PM, Bijan Parsia wrote: > On 17 May 2009, at 20:07, Michael Hucka wrote: > [snip] > >> OK, I understand now. I'm happy to start here, then.

Re: Question about standardization

2009-05-17 Thread Bijan Parsia
On 17 May 2009, at 20:07, Michael Hucka wrote: [snip] OK, I understand now. I'm happy to start here, then. mhucka> Indeed. Standardization of SBML has been discussed mhucka> over many years in the SBML community, bparsia> bparsia> Pointers? Probably the earliest mention with a record onli

Re: Question about standardization

2009-05-17 Thread Michael Hucka
Hi Bijan, and others, The following are some replies to parts of multiple separate messages, all put here in one place to (hopefully) make reading easier: bparsia> MIchael, there's no question in my mind that bparsia> HCLSIG is a perfectly find venue to discuss SBML bparsia> and do HCLSIG s

Re: Question about standardization

2009-05-13 Thread Oliver Ruebenacker
Hello Bijan, All, The sympathy might not come across as intended if you throw such weighty issues as rechartering at newcomers. The rhetorical question was not intended as a blow, but to elicit some more information on what makes a thing substantially worthy of standardization. I was hop

Re: Question about standardization

2009-05-13 Thread Bijan Parsia
On 13 May 2009, at 11:21, Bijan Parsia wrote: [snip] And, to be clear, I'm not always (or typically) very good at the political side in practice because I'm (as should be evident) a grouchy person. To try to summarize constructively, Michael: HCLSIG cannot, itself, standardize SBML

Re: Question about standardization

2009-05-13 Thread Bijan Parsia
On 13 May 2009, at 10:48, Oliver Ruebenacker wrote: Hello Bijan, Michael, All, The group does not deliver standards, but can submit something for consideration to W3C. Hence my care in distinguishing what the group can and cannot do. I remember this being discussed indetail in one o

Re: Question about standardization

2009-05-13 Thread Oliver Ruebenacker
Hello Bijan, Michael, All, The group does not deliver standards, but can submit something for consideration to W3C. I remember this being discussed indetail in one of the phone conferences. If SBML is not deserving of being a standard, the what is? Something no one uses? Take care

Re: Question about standardization

2009-05-13 Thread Bijan Parsia
On 13 May 2009, at 03:12, Michael Hucka wrote: Hi, I hope this is not too off-topic -- I'm new to this group and still am trying to get a sense for what it's about. bparsia> The way to figure out it's formal scope is to bparsia> read the charter: bparsia> http://www.w3.org/2008/05/HCLSIGC

Re: Question about standardization

2009-05-13 Thread Bijan Parsia
On 13 May 2009, at 03:23, Michael Hucka wrote: Hi Oliver, Thanks for your reply. [snip] In the context of HCLSIG's charter, it might be interesting to bring up the fact that SBML tries to be very supportive of annotations and semantic web technologies. (I know Oliver is aware of the followin

Re: Question about standardization

2009-05-12 Thread Michael Hucka
Hi Oliver, Thanks for your reply. curoli> You just have to allow some time for people here curoli> to get familiar with SBML, and to navigate the curoli> buerocracy. OK. What would be the best way to help that along? curoli> Systems Biology is a central theme in the HCLSIG, curoli> a

Re: Question about standardization

2009-05-12 Thread Michael Hucka
Hi, >> I hope this is not too off-topic -- I'm new to this >> group and still am trying to get a sense for what it's >> about. bparsia> The way to figure out it's formal scope is to bparsia> read the charter: bparsia> http://www.w3.org/2008/05/HCLSIGCharter In fact, I did that before

Re: Question about standardization

2009-05-12 Thread Oliver Ruebenacker
Hello Michael, I would say you have come to the right place. Great to have you here. SBML is a mature and widely adopted format that is more than worthy to be submitted as a interest group recommendation (if "interest group recommendation" is the right term). You just have to allow so

Re: Question about standardization

2009-05-12 Thread Bijan Parsia
Hi Michael, On 12 May 2009, at 07:22, Michael Hucka wrote: Hello there, I hope this is not too off-topic -- I'm new to this group and still am trying to get a sense for what it's about. The way to figure out it's formal scope is to read the charter: http://www.w3.org/2008/05/HCLSIGCharter

Question about standardization

2009-05-11 Thread Michael Hucka
Hello there, I hope this is not too off-topic -- I'm new to this group and still am trying to get a sense for what it's about. Those of us working on SBML (the Systems Biology Markup Language -- see http://sbml.org) would like to pursue standards-body recognition of SBML. Would this (HCLSIG) be