Re: Points of order on this WG

2009-06-25 Thread Doug Schepers
Hi, Arun- Arun Ranganathan wrote (on 6/25/09 1:38 AM): On Jun 23, 2009, at 5:10 PM, Ian Hickson wrote: The Web Storage specification is someone dead-locked right now due to the lack of consensus on whether to use SQL or not. This topic continues to be discussed in Mozilla newsgroups. Few

Re: Points of order on this WG

2009-06-25 Thread Ian Hickson
On Thu, 25 Jun 2009, Doug Schepers wrote: On Jun 23, 2009, at 5:10 PM, Ian Hickson wrote: The Web Storage specification is someone dead-locked right now due to the lack of consensus on whether to use SQL or not. I don't buy this argument for an instant, and I'd be very surprised if

Re: Do we need to rename the Origin header?

2009-06-25 Thread Jonas Sicking
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 8:57 PM, Adam Barthw...@adambarth.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 8:50 PM, Bil Corryb...@corry.biz wrote: Continuing your example, if XHTML defines requests from form as privacy-sensitive, then the UA will have two different behaviors for Sec-From, depending on if

Re: Handling too few arguments in method calls

2009-06-25 Thread Cameron McCormack
Cameron McCormack: From some very brief testing, it seems that Firefox and Opera tend to throw an exception when calling a method with too few arguments, while IE, Safari and Chrome will assume that the missing arguments were the undefined value. Simon Pieters: Hmm. What did you use as

Re: Do we need to rename the Origin header?

2009-06-25 Thread Anne van Kesteren
On Thu, 25 Jun 2009 05:50:32 +0200, Bil Corry b...@corry.biz wrote: Continuing your example, if XHTML defines requests from form as privacy-sensitive, then the UA will have two different behaviors for Sec-From, depending on if it's rendering HTML5 or XHTML? HTML5 defines an XHTML

[WebIDL] Callback, PropertyOnly, NoInterfaceObject

2009-06-25 Thread Marcin Hanclik
Hi Cameron, Following our conversation on the geolocation ML http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-geolocation/2009Jun/0173.html I have the following clarification request related to the Web IDL spec. In the geolocation spec we have now: [NoInterfaceObject] interface PositionOptions {

[widgets] dig sig RelaxNG schema

2009-06-25 Thread Kai Hendry
Using http://bondi.omtp.org/1.0/security/xmldsig-core-schema.rnc and rnv [1] I've been trying to validate the example: http://www.w3.org/TR/widgets-digsig/#example Firstly does widgets-digsig have it's own grammar.rnc? I have not been able to find one. Using xmldsig-core-schema.rnc I ran into a

Belated Regretts for telcon.

2009-06-25 Thread Andrew Sledd
Last minute changes in schedule prevented me from attending. Sorry for late regretts. Andy

Re: Do we need to rename the Origin header?

2009-06-25 Thread Bil Corry
Jonas Sicking wrote on 6/25/2009 2:11 AM: On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 8:57 PM, Adam Barthw...@adambarth.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 8:50 PM, Bil Corryb...@corry.biz wrote: Continuing your example, if XHTML defines requests from form as privacy-sensitive, then the UA will have two

Re: Points of order on this WG

2009-06-25 Thread Arthur Barstow
Nikunj, All, Charles will respond separately regarding a way forward but I want to respond to the false accusation below. On Jun 24, 2009, at 8:13 PM, ext Nikunj R. Mehta wrote: The WG chair went ahead with the publication of the Web Storage draft overriding serious objections about it's

Re: [widgets] Draft Minutes from 25 June 2009 Voice Conference

2009-06-25 Thread Arthur Barstow
On Jun 25, 2009, at 10:16 AM, Barstow Art (Nokia-CIC/Boston) wrote: The draft minutes from the June 25 Widgets Security voice conference are available at the following and copied below: http://www.w3.org/2009/05/25-wam-minutes.html The correct URI is:

Re: Handling too few arguments in method calls

2009-06-25 Thread Darin Adler
What about too many arguments, and ignoring extra ones? Is that settled? -- Darin

Re: Points of order on this WG

2009-06-25 Thread Nikunj R. Mehta
I have listed these requirements on my blog - http://o-micron.blogspot.com/2009/06/requirements-for-and-components-needed.html I will put these together in a forma suitable for W3C uses. Nikunj http://o-micron.blogspot.com On Jun 24, 2009, at 11:13 PM, Doug Schepers wrote: Hi, Arun- Arun

Re: Points of order on this WG

2009-06-25 Thread Nikunj R. Mehta
On Jun 24, 2009, at 7:34 PM, Michael(tm) Smith wrote: Nikunj R. Mehta nikunj.me...@oracle.com, 2009-06-24 17:13 -0700: I want to raise two formal points of order about the manner in which this WG has operated, particularly in respect to Web Storage. 1. Charter 2. Process Firstly, no one

Re: Points of order on this WG

2009-06-25 Thread Nikunj R. Mehta
On Jun 24, 2009, at 10:24 PM, Doug Schepers wrote: Hi, Nikunj- I think Mike was overly blunt, but essentially correct in his response, but I'd like to add a specific comment inline... Nikunj R. Mehta wrote (on 6/24/09 8:13 PM): On Jun 23, 2009, at 5:10 PM, Ian Hickson wrote: The Web

Re: [widgets] dig sig RelaxNG schema

2009-06-25 Thread Frederick Hirsch
Kai XML Signature 1.1 is specified using XML Schema [1]. XML Signature 1.1 has a draft RNG schema [2]. We did not develop an rnc grammar for widget signature. The XML Security WG started to work on an XML Signature 1.1 RNG schema [2] but since we do not have deep expertise in the group

Re: Points of order on this WG

2009-06-25 Thread Nikunj R. Mehta
On Jun 25, 2009, at 9:34 AM, Arthur Barstow wrote: Nikunj, All, Charles will respond separately regarding a way forward but I want to respond to the false accusation below. On Jun 24, 2009, at 8:13 PM, ext Nikunj R. Mehta wrote: The WG chair went ahead with the publication of the Web

Re: Do we need to rename the Origin header?

2009-06-25 Thread Jonas Sicking
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 8:10 AM, Bil Corryb...@corry.biz wrote: Jonas Sicking wrote on 6/25/2009 2:11 AM: On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 8:57 PM, Adam Barthw...@adambarth.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 8:50 PM, Bil Corryb...@corry.biz wrote: Continuing your example, if XHTML defines requests from

Re: Points of order on this WG

2009-06-25 Thread Maciej Stachowiak
On Jun 24, 2009, at 11:35 PM, Ian Hickson wrote: In any case, adding a new feature to a spec whose future is uncertain isn't a good idea because it means that the new feature's progress is tied to the uncertain future of the rest of the spec. Thus, my recommendation to Nikunj would be to

Re: Points of order on this WG

2009-06-25 Thread Maciej Stachowiak
On Jun 25, 2009, at 12:42 PM, Nikunj R. Mehta wrote: I think Nikunj's proposal definitely is worthy of being persued, just like the working group is persuing dozens of other proposals like XHR, CORS, Selectors API, Workers, Server-Sent Events, Web Sockets, etc. I don't believe it really

Re: Points of order on this WG

2009-06-25 Thread Jonas Sicking
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 12:42 PM, Nikunj R. Mehtanikunj.me...@oracle.com wrote: On Jun 24, 2009, at 11:35 PM, Ian Hickson wrote: I have proposed to Mozilla a solution that provides access to an organized key-value database such as that provided in the (open source) Berkeley DB. In essence, a

Re: Handling too few arguments in method calls

2009-06-25 Thread Cameron McCormack
Aaron Boodman: But there is also an issue of legacy code. I brought this issue up in a webkit bug awhile ago, and one concern from the webkit developers was that introducing an exception would almost certainly break sites. My opinion is that those sites are almost certainly already broken. I

Re: Handling too few arguments in method calls

2009-06-25 Thread Cameron McCormack
Darin Adler: What about too many arguments, and ignoring extra ones? Is that settled? It seems consistent with current implementations to ignore extra arguments. That approach might go against the desire to maximise the freedom API designers have to add additional overloaded operations later,

Re: Handling too few arguments in method calls

2009-06-25 Thread Cameron McCormack
Oliver Hunt: There's also overloaded functions like (for example) CanvasRenderingContext2d.drawImage void drawImage(in HTMLImageElement image, in float dx, in float dy, [Optional] in float dw, in float dh) if I do drawImage(image, x, y, foo) is this under-provision for

Re: Points of order on this WG

2009-06-25 Thread Maciej Stachowiak
On Jun 25, 2009, at 5:23 PM, Jonas Sicking wrote: On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 12:42 PM, Nikunj R. Mehtanikunj.me...@oracle.com wrote: On Jun 24, 2009, at 11:35 PM, Ian Hickson wrote: I have proposed to Mozilla a solution that provides access to an organized key-value database such as that