Re: [selectors-api] Summary of Feature Requests for v2

2009-09-23 Thread Jonas Sicking
On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 9:57 PM, Maciej Stachowiak wrote: > > On Sep 23, 2009, at 5:26 PM, Jonas Sicking wrote: > >> On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 4:51 AM, Lachlan Hunt >> wrote: >>> >>> *Scoped Queries* >>> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=5860 >>> >>> This has been discussed extensively

CfC: Event Namespaces Removed

2009-09-23 Thread Doug Schepers
Hi, DOM3 Events fans- After much discussion, and having looked for compelling reasons for keeping them (especially content, implementations, or other specifications), I have now removed event namespaces from the DOM3 Events specification. http://dev.w3.org/2006/webapi/DOM-Level-3-Events/htm

Re: [selectors-api] Summary of Feature Requests for v2

2009-09-23 Thread Maciej Stachowiak
On Sep 23, 2009, at 5:26 PM, Jonas Sicking wrote: On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 4:51 AM, Lachlan Hunt > wrote: *Scoped Queries* http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=5860 This has been discussed extensively in the past. Basically, the idea is that the selector would be evaluated in the sc

Re: [selectors-api] Scoped Queries

2009-09-23 Thread Sean Hogan
Jonas Sicking wrote: On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 6:00 PM, Sean Hogan wrote: Jonas Sicking wrote: On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 4:51 AM, Lachlan Hunt wrote: *Scoped Queries* http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=5860 This has been discussed extensively in the past. Basically,

Re: [selectors-api] Scoped Queries

2009-09-23 Thread Sean Hogan
John Resig wrote: Libraries already parse selector queries anyway. And some of them add non-standard selectors and presumeably will continue to do so. I don't think it is an issue. However the parsing only happens after the selector has been passed to the native querySelectorAll i

Re: [selectors-api] Summary of Feature Requests for v2

2009-09-23 Thread Jonas Sicking
On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 8:17 PM, John Resig wrote: > Quick Summary of my opinions: > > Matches Selector: Super-super useful - critical, in fact. We're not able to > remove jQuery's selector engine until this is implemented. I'm working with > the devs at Mozilla to get an implementation landed. Al

Re: [selectors-api] Scoped Queries

2009-09-23 Thread John Resig
> Libraries already parse selector queries anyway. And some of them add > non-standard selectors and presumeably will continue to do so. I don't think > it is an issue. > However the parsing only happens after the selector has been passed to the native querySelectorAll implementation. We assume th

Re: [selectors-api] Scoped Queries

2009-09-23 Thread Jonas Sicking
On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 6:00 PM, Sean Hogan wrote: > Jonas Sicking wrote: >> >> On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 4:51 AM, Lachlan Hunt >> wrote: >> >>> >>> *Scoped Queries* >>> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=5860 >>> >>> This has been discussed extensively in the past.  Basically, the idea

Re: [selectors-api] Summary of Feature Requests for v2

2009-09-23 Thread John Resig
Quick Summary of my opinions: Matches Selector: Super-super useful - critical, in fact. We're not able to remove jQuery's selector engine until this is implemented. I'm working with the devs at Mozilla to get an implementation landed. Already have a test suite in place. Filtering NodeLists/Static

Re: [selectors-api] Summary of Feature Requests for v2

2009-09-23 Thread Garrett Smith
On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 4:51 AM, Lachlan Hunt wrote: > Hi, >  I'm planning to look at beginning work on Selectors API v2 soon to add a > number of requested features that didn't make it into the first version. >  This e-mail is a summary of what is being considered, and is intended to > start disc

Re: [selectors-api] Summary of Feature Requests for v2

2009-09-23 Thread Sean Hogan
I think a couple of those features are pretty low priority: - I don't see the point of collective queries on NodeLists. Are there any references for the proposal? Otherwise I can't think of any useful queries that can't already be achieved with a single querySelectorAll(). - Filtering NodeList

Re: [selectors-api] Scoped Queries

2009-09-23 Thread Sean Hogan
Jonas Sicking wrote: On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 4:51 AM, Lachlan Hunt wrote: *Scoped Queries* http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=5860 This has been discussed extensively in the past. Basically, the idea is that the selector would be evaluated in the scope of the element, in a way m

Re: [selectors-api] Summary of Feature Requests for v2

2009-09-23 Thread Jonas Sicking
On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 4:51 AM, Lachlan Hunt wrote: > *Scoped Queries* > http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=5860 > > This has been discussed extensively in the past.  Basically, the idea is > that the selector would be evaluated in the scope of the element, in a way > more compatible w

Re: more flexible ABNF for STS?

2009-09-23 Thread Adam Barth
This sounds like a good idea. One thing we can do to reduce the complexity is to have different grammars for server conformance and for user agent conformance. Essentially, servers would be required to conform to the current grammar, but UAs would be required to conform to the more tolerant gramm

Re: [selectors-api] Summary of Feature Requests for v2

2009-09-23 Thread Lachlan Hunt
Mike Wilson wrote: My first priority would be "Matches Selector", and see to that it fulfills the needs for event delegation. Is there any special functionality that would be needed to achieve this? If I understand correctly, event delegation just needs to be able to check whether the event

[widgets] Comments for pre-FPWD of View Modes Media Feature spec

2009-09-23 Thread Arthur Barstow
Below are comments regarding rev1.1 of the View Modes Media Feature spec: http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/2006/waf/widgets-vm/vm-mediafeature.src.html -Regards, Art Barstow 1. Abstract: a. I don't understand "the document's content" in this context. b. Missing a sentence terminator for the first s

Re: [A&E] Last Call comments (1)

2009-09-23 Thread Scott Wilson
Hmm, I raised this one too. I can't see how the origin handles instances exactly, and the concept of "origin" doesn't seem all that relevant to our implementation anyway - it looks more like something for browser makers to worry over? Why is "origin of a widget" preferable to "instance of w

Re: FYI: W3C Workshop on Access Control Application Scenarios; Nov 17-18 in Luxembourg

2009-09-23 Thread Rigo Wenning
Hi Art, Anne, looks like the focus of the CORS specification is on very simple access control that would just express that site A allows access to content if the javascript stuff calls it from a thing found on site B. The workshop deals with conditions (policy) under which a certain resourc

Re: [widgets] Draft Agenda for 24 September 2009 Voice Conf

2009-09-23 Thread Marcos Caceres
On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 4:36 PM, Marcin Hanclik wrote: > Hi, > > One more comment to the below: > There is one use case not handled by the below scenarios: > In case the width/height are dropped on the Widget interface, the widget > would not know the initial dimensions. > E.g. in Win32 each new

Re: [A&E] Last Call comments (1)

2009-09-23 Thread Marcos Caceres
2009/9/15 Marcin Hanclik : > The below comments refer to: > Widgets 1.0: The widget Interface > Editor's Draft 14 September 2009 > > General: > Replace "can" with "may" in the whole document. I've used can deliberately throughout the document where statements of fact are made. To use may would res

Mail List Etiquette & How to Loose Your Privileges

2009-09-23 Thread Arthur Barstow
All, I think we all appreciate frank and open technical discussions about the Web Applications WG's specifications but we must also be respectful and professional in our exchanges. My personal tolerance for terse exchanges is relatively high but that is not true for everyone and we must r

Re: [widgets] WURI Review pre-LC review

2009-09-23 Thread Marcos Caceres
2009/9/17 Robin Berjon : > On Sep 3, 2009, at 14:25 , Marcos Caceres wrote: >>> >>> Many specifications in the Web stack depend on a context being defined >>> that includes a current IRI. This is easily provided for documents >>> retrieved over HTTP, or from the local file system, but is currently

Re: CORS redirect behavior proposal

2009-09-23 Thread Adam Barth
On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 5:34 AM, Anne van Kesteren wrote: > For simple cross-origin requests Origin would be a space-separated list of > origins indicating the redirect chain. When we used this syntax for the Sec-From header, Mark Nottingham advocated using commas to separate the origins to bette

Re: FYI: W3C Workshop on Access Control Application Scenarios; Nov 17-18 in Luxembourg

2009-09-23 Thread Anne van Kesteren
On Wed, 23 Sep 2009 02:18:02 +0200, Arthur Barstow wrote: Given WebApps' CORS spec, this Workshop (November 17-18 in Luxembourg) may be of interest to you: http://www.w3.org/2009/policy-ws/cfp.html Thanks Art. I looked into this and couldn't really figure out how CORS relates. And if

Re: Publishing XMLHttpRequest

2009-09-23 Thread Anne van Kesteren
On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 18:03:52 +0200, Stewart Brodie wrote: The Abstract is good for an abstract, but I don't think it's got enough detail in it for a list of differences. I'll review the new documents in closer detail when I get a chance and see if I can suggest some words. I'd like to adopt

Re: skipping and ignoring

2009-09-23 Thread Marcos Caceres
On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 12:44 PM, Robin Berjon wrote: > Hi, > > while writing tests, we've hit upon something that could use a little > clarification: the distinction between skip and ignore. > > One interpretation that we can come to is that the two terms means the same > thing for files and attr

Re: Progress Events - Credits Edits

2009-09-23 Thread Charles McCathieNevile
On Wed, 23 Sep 2009 15:33:22 +0200, Robin Berjon wrote: On Sep 19, 2009, at 15:00 , Charles McCathieNevile wrote: On Sat, 19 Sep 2009 07:55:23 +0200, Garrett Smith wrote: In looking at the credits, I noticed all of: Bjoern Hoehrmann, Björn Hoehrmann, Björn Höhrmann, Bjoern H�hrmann I a

Re: XHR request state vs provisional responses

2009-09-23 Thread Anne van Kesteren
On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 17:34:18 +0200, Julian Reschke wrote: was it ever discussed to expose information from provisional HTTP responses () to clients? That might become interesting once extensions such as

Re: [A&E] Last Call comments (2): discovery & localization

2009-09-23 Thread Marcos Caceres
Robin Berjon wrote: On Sep 21, 2009, at 20:08 , Marcos Caceres wrote: 5.1 Localization Shall it be possible for the widget to programmatically discover the localization path it was loaded from (section 9 of P&C)? Yes, you can check its URI. If the implementation supports the window object,

Re: [cors] Comments on 17 March 2009

2009-09-23 Thread Anne van Kesteren
On Tue, 30 Jun 2009 17:11:04 +0200, Frederick Hirsch wrote: I have some basic comments and questions on "Cross-Origin Resource Sharing", W3C Working Draft 17 March 2009 http://www.w3.org/TR/2009/WD-cors-20090317/ Going forward, may I suggest you review: http://dev.w3.org/2006/waf/access-

Re: [A&E] Last Call comments (2): discovery & localization

2009-09-23 Thread Robin Berjon
On Sep 21, 2009, at 20:08 , Marcos Caceres wrote: 5.1 Localization Shall it be possible for the widget to programmatically discover the localization path it was loaded from (section 9 of P&C)? Yes, you can check its URI. If the implementation supports the window object, then it possible.

RE: [widgets] Draft Agenda for 24 September 2009 Voice Conf

2009-09-23 Thread Marcin Hanclik
Hi, One more comment to the below: There is one use case not handled by the below scenarios: In case the width/height are dropped on the Widget interface, the widget would not know the initial dimensions. E.g. in Win32 each new window get WM_SIZE event with the initial width/height. However, I am

Re: Progress Events - Credits Edits

2009-09-23 Thread Robin Berjon
On Sep 19, 2009, at 15:00 , Charles McCathieNevile wrote: On Sat, 19 Sep 2009 07:55:23 +0200, Garrett Smith > wrote: In looking at the credits, I noticed all of: Bjoern Hoehrmann, Björn Hoehrmann, Björn Höhrmann, Bjoern H�hrmann I am not sure if there are two similar "BH", as "Björn" and "Bj

RE: [widgets] Draft Agenda for 24 September 2009 Voice Conf

2009-09-23 Thread Marcin Hanclik
Hi Art, All, I would like to suggest to add to the agenda the point that appeared during the widgets testing event. It is related to the Widget Interface, View Modes and patterns. The comments below will be valid also as LC comments to the Widget Interface. The Widget Interface includes width an

[WARP] "uri" attribute is confusing

2009-09-23 Thread Dominique Hazael-Massieux
Hi, The attribute "uri" on the element in WARP is somewhat misleading - what it takes is more a URL pattern than a URI. I would suggest renaming it in "urlpattern" or just "pattern" (unless there are already many implementations that rely on that attribute name). There may be lessons to be taken

RE: [selectors-api] Summary of Feature Requests for v2

2009-09-23 Thread Mike Wilson
My first priority would be "Matches Selector", and see to that it fulfills the needs for event delegation. Best regards Mike Wilson Lachlan Hunt wrote: > Hi, >I'm planning to look at beginning work on Selectors API v2 soon to > add a number of requested features that didn't make it into the

Re: CORS redirect behavior proposal

2009-09-23 Thread Anne van Kesteren
On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 20:38:46 +0200, Collin Jackson wrote: Proposal Same-origin redirects are allowed. Redirects from same-origin to cross-origin are also allowed. When processing a redirect from one foreign origin to another, the browser replaces the Origin header with "null". In this situatio

[widgets] Draft Agenda for 24 September 2009 Voice Conf

2009-09-23 Thread Arthur Barstow
Below is the draft agenda for the September 24 Widgets Voice Conference (VC). Inputs and discussion before the VC on all of the agenda topics via public-webapps is encouraged). Please address Open/Raised Issues and Open Actions before the meeting: http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/track/pro

[selectors-api] Summary of Feature Requests for v2

2009-09-23 Thread Lachlan Hunt
Hi, I'm planning to look at beginning work on Selectors API v2 soon to add a number of requested features that didn't make it into the first version. This e-mail is a summary of what is being considered, and is intended to start discussion about which ones are really worth focussing on, and

skipping and ignoring

2009-09-23 Thread Robin Berjon
Hi, while writing tests, we've hit upon something that could use a little clarification: the distinction between skip and ignore. One interpretation that we can come to is that the two terms means the same thing for files and attributes, but for XML element processing "ignore" descends in

Re: [widgets] Comments on Section 5 of the 18-Aug-2009 LCWD of A&E spec

2009-09-23 Thread Marcos Caceres
2009/9/21 Arthur Barstow : > Hi Marcos, > > On Sep 21, 2009, at 2:08 PM, ext Marcos Caceres wrote: > >> For the sake of the DoC, can you please acknowledge that the comments >> below have been addressed and your are satisfied with the way the WG >> addressed your comments. > > Based on the exchange

CORS redirect behavior proposal

2009-09-23 Thread Collin Jackson
Looking at the behavior of existing implementations, we don't seem to have committed to how to handle redirects in CORS yet: IE8 (XDomainRequest): Redirects are not supported Firefox 3.5: If you start off same-origin, you can redirect cross-origin once, and the Origin header gets added at that po